SAC - FC-31 Grey Falcon Stealth aircraft for PAF : Updates & Debate

[GriffinsRule]

Hi,

I have already answered---. If you are not capable of understanding---and this is not the first time---then it is not my problem---.

I have very clearly stated my point---.

Apparently you havent explained your point well at all or there would be no ambiguity about it. Or perhaps you are unable to put thoughts down coherently for people like myself to understand.

But since when asked about it, if the best you do is just try to sidestep the issue, proves you dont really have any idea what you are talking about either. Good to know

 

[Kompromat]

They were intercepted on 26th. PAF didn't allow them to shoot.

Hi,

Thy should have been prepared to counter the enemy the first night of incursion---.

The enemy had already announced its intention of invasion---.

Paf goes ahead makes the strike on the 27th---but then it does an incomplete job---of letting multiple enemy aircraft escape---even though it had prepared for the strike---.

 

[Cookie Monster]

TR-3B anti-gravity aircraft

Anti gravity fields and related phenomena only exist in the sci-fi realm so far. Plz don't bring it up in a serious discussion on a serious thread. Among the 4 fundamental forces of nature, gravity is the least understood. We don't even have a clue about the corresponding carrier particle of the gravitational force(unlike the other 3)...let alone having enough knowledge to be able to manipulate the gravitational field.

 

[Deino]

Guys ... can you please stop this nasty and stupid off-topic discussion?

Since about two pages you are all off the FC-31.

 

[LeGenD]

Anti gravity fields and related phenomena only exist in the sci-fi realm so far. Plz don't bring it up in a serious discussion on a serious thread. Among the 4 fundamental forces of nature, gravity is the least understood. We don't even have a clue about the corresponding carrier particle of the gravitational force(unlike the other 3)...let alone having enough knowledge to be able to manipulate the gravitational field.

TR-3B is American exclusive project and accomplishment.

FYI: https://metro.co.uk/2019/04/18/us-n...raft-resembling-ufo-documents-reveal-9246755/

Very serious.

 

[Cookie Monster]

TR-3B is American exclusive project and accomplishment.

FYI: https://metro.co.uk/2019/04/18/us-n...raft-resembling-ufo-documents-reveal-9246755/

Very serious.

The article is mentioning being able to generate gravitational waves...something we just recently detected from two merging black holes. Are u suggesting that humans have reached a technological level(even if limited to US military) to be able to generate gravitational waves?

Secondly it mentions the craft being able to reduce it's mass. Again the scientific community was just recently able to confirm the Higg's Boson(confirming the Higg's field). This means that a particle's weight is dependent on how much it interacts with the Higg's Field...the more it interacts the more massive it is...the less it interacts the less mass it has. Being able to change ur mass on the fly would mean being able to change the interaction of the particles(the aircraft is made up of) with the Higg's Field.

The current understanding and knowledge isn't advanced enough to be able to do any of those things. If the supposed claims are right and this TR3B could indeed do all these things...then why would US come back to relying on regular methods of propulsion and induct fighter jets like the F35? It would put US comfortably at least a century(if not more) ahead of the rest of the world combined. It would make it possible for US to have those sci-fi airborne aircraft carrier(like that shown in Captain America winter soldier) in it's Air Force. Hell u can even make a submarine that can get out of water and levitate...fly around like a jet...literally an all in one type of "vehicle" that can operate in any environment...underwater, on water, on land, in air, and even in space. But instead US is going for conventional propulsion methods still? That's like choosing to go with a bow and arrow when u can instead be armed with a machine gun.

This sounds more like one of those UFO stories...I would rather stick with science I know than believe in something fantastical based on hearsay.

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

Very interesting short video---.

It again re-confirms what I stated---chinese intentionally did not make a true copy of the F35---even though they had all the designs---. They took the US threat very serious---.

 

[python-000]

If J-31 inducted in PAF it will be a great addition if its ever happens...

 

[Deino]

Hi,

Very interesting short video---.

It again re-confirms what I stated---chinese intentionally did not make a true copy of the F35---even though they had all the designs---. They took the US threat very serious---.

Honestly ... how credible is RT as a proof for the claim, the FC-31 is a copy of the F-35?

 

[MastanKhan]

Honestly ... how credible is RT as a proof for the claim, the FC-31 is a copy of the F-35?

Hi,

Not very credible---.

But when I compare it to the interview of Air Vice Marshall Latif---top notch F16 fighter pilot---who competed with all top notch america pilots when he was in his initial training in the US in the early 80's---the first project director of JF17 program---and how he mentioned the threats from US officials about F16 design and information release in his recent interviews---it confirms that the chinese faced a similar threat---.

I would not doubt the americans saying" we know you have stolen our tech---but you better not build it---otherwise you won't like the consequences---".

 

[Trailer23]

China's FC-31 fighter jet shows major upgrades at Paris Air Show​

By Liu Xuanzun

China's fifth-generation stealth fighter jet FC-31 showcased its latest upgrades at the ongoing Paris Air Show, and analysts noted on Wednesday that the displayed model shows noteworthy changes in design that could significantly improve its capabilities.

A scaled model of the FC-31 is being displayed by the state-owned Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) at the company's stand at the 53rd Paris Air Show, which is scheduled to run from Monday to Sunday.

Chinese military observers and media said the model on display appears to have undergone many changes compared to the aircraft's past designs.

The area behind the cockpit and the areas where the two engines are housed are now bulkier, Weihutang, a military column affiliated with China Central Television, reported on Wednesday.

The optimized aerodynamic design further reduces wind resistance, the report said.

Wang Ya'nan, chief editor of Aerospace Knowledge magazine, told the Global Times on Wednesday that these changes could mean the aircraft has been made more agile and is capable of carrying more fuel, which will give it a larger operational range.

It might also carry additional electronic devices for communication or satellite links, Wang said.

The upgraded FC-31 might even feature a pair of new engines, reported Ordnance Industry Science Technology, a Xi'an-based periodical on the national defense industry.

The nozzles of the engines on the FC-31 model displayed in Paris are very different in structure and shape than the ones previously used, the periodical said, noting that this means the warplane will become more competitive on the international market, giving it a better chance of joining the People's Liberation Army if it gets new and more powerful engines.

Wang said that the warplane will continue to boost its capabilities.

For countries looking to buy an advanced stealth fighter jet, the FC-31 is similar to the US F-35 but much cheaper, and China does not attach political conditions to arms sales as the US does, Wang said.

Video Link: https://www.iqiyi.com/v_19rs7oc9fw.html
This video is only available in Chinese & has yet to be uploaded on YouTube, so you'll have to visit the site above.

 

[Deino]

China's FC-31 fighter jet shows major upgrades at Paris Air Show​

By Liu Xuanzun

China's fifth-generation stealth fighter jet FC-31 showcased its latest upgrades at the ongoing Paris Air Show, and analysts noted on Wednesday that the displayed model shows noteworthy changes in design that could significantly improve its capabilities.

A scaled model of the FC-31 is being displayed by the state-owned Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) at the company's stand at the 53rd Paris Air Show, which is scheduled to run from Monday to Sunday.

Chinese military observers and media said the model on display appears to have undergone many changes compared to the aircraft's past designs.

The area behind the cockpit and the areas where the two engines are housed are now bulkier, Weihutang, a military column affiliated with China Central Television, reported on Wednesday.

The optimized aerodynamic design further reduces wind resistance, the report said.

Wang Ya'nan, chief editor of Aerospace Knowledge magazine, told the Global Times on Wednesday that these changes could mean the aircraft has been made more agile and is capable of carrying more fuel, which will give it a larger operational range.

It might also carry additional electronic devices for communication or satellite links, Wang said.

The upgraded FC-31 might even feature a pair of new engines, reported Ordnance Industry Science Technology, a Xi'an-based periodical on the national defense industry.

The nozzles of the engines on the FC-31 model displayed in Paris are very different in structure and shape than the ones previously used, the periodical said, noting that this means the warplane will become more competitive on the international market, giving it a better chance of joining the People's Liberation Army if it gets new and more powerful engines.

Wang said that the warplane will continue to boost its capabilities.

For countries looking to buy an advanced stealth fighter jet, the FC-31 is similar to the US F-35 but much cheaper, and China does not attach political conditions to arms sales as the US does, Wang said.

Video Link: https://www.iqiyi.com/v_19rs7oc9fw.html
This video is only available in Chinese & has yet to be uploaded on YouTube, so you'll have to visit the site above.

Already posted several times ... it's nonsense, GT is highly unreliable and so I would better forget this BS.

 

[araz]

Already posted several times ... it's nonsense, GT is highly unreliable and so I would better forget this BS.

Plus there is nothing concrete there. A lot of "might and may and will". This is wishful thinking till it materialises .
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[Armchair]

The FC-31 would have perhaps done best had it used a Mirage profile of a simple delta wing. Would have been faster and had longer range (from the large amount of fuel in the wings and of lesser drag. Would have been a very stable low level strike platform.

 

[MastanKhan]