And yes, that is a question. Where are the personal attacks we are talking about? I get asked many times due to the fact that I have different flags on my profile and never have I considered it a personal attack since I know my answer already. And the replies that I got from that question is personal attacks that are clear to see with naked eyes. Now you accused me of pointing fingers while it was you who asked to point you to what is troubling me. What is it that you are trying to achieve here?
If you want me to admit my mistake, lets start with your accusations first because this is why we have this exchange.
1. You accused me of personal attacks while I was being personally attacked as well. Where is the benefit of doubt if you just straight up accused me things?
2. You accused me of spam-reporting your post, basically dismissing my concern over your behavior as a mod as spam, so why bother telling me use report button?
3. You accused me of pointing fingers while it was you who asked me to do so.
And why do you mention that you have your limits? Is it because you are a mod that I cannot question your judgement? And Do you realize that you are actually reinforcing my earlier statement stronger than I ever could?
Below is the list of you trying to be personal with another member in your exchanges with him in this very thread.
Post # 39: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/russ...garding-hong-kong.668207/page-3#post-12369549
(you „remember“ Indonesia gdp? I dont know man,
you sound like you are not even Indonesian to begin with. Are you sure you got the right flag for your profile?)
OBSERVATION: Questioning nationality of a member; sudden and out of the blue. The other member suggested that you stop in his response to you (Post # 40).
Post # 43: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/russ...garding-hong-kong.668207/page-3#post-12369586
(„Your countrymen“ dude if you are Indonesian, you are also my countrymen.
So who are you actually?)
OBSERVATION: You continue to be 'personal' with the other member in your exchanges.
Post # 45: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/russ...garding-hong-kong.668207/page-3#post-12369613
(Yeah ok if that is what you believe. Still, that does not answer my question regarding why you used
„your countryman“ to me when you are supposed to be my countryman as well since you claimed you are Indonesian. Unless, again, you are not Indonesian to begin with.
Conversely, If you are non Indonesian (as citizen, not race) and use „your countrymen“ when talking to me as an Indonesian to call out other indonesian members, the use of that word would have been correct.)
OBSERVATION: You continue to question other member's nationality.
Post # 47: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/russ...garding-hong-kong.668207/page-4#post-12369633
(No, you just could not answer a simple questikn
because you are not Indonesian in the first place. Cmon, you said you are anti fake news,
but the whole you is fake.)
OBSERVATION: You continue to question another member's nationality. The other member suggested that you stop AGAIN in his next response to you (Post # 48)
Post # 49: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/russ...garding-hong-kong.668207/page-4#post-12369643
(Which question? All you did was deflecting questions.
Dude, the fact that you are fake is not a personal attack
since you have no persona or personality to begin with. I mean, what is there to attack?)
OBSERVATION: Personal attack right there.
Post # 53: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/russ...garding-hong-kong.668207/page-4#post-12369787
(when did I say you have to hate china in order to be an Indonesian? Dude I dont hate China. I defended China‘s investments in Indonesia against Prabowo supporters and Islamists here in this forum because I believe it will have good return for both countries. check my posts. But still, if anyone ask me if I am Indonesian, my answer is „Yes, I am Indonesian“.
I said you can lick china or us all you want,
so long you submit to Pancasila and UUD45. Now it is your turn to answer me why you used your countrymen to me? I thought you are going to provide an answer to that question.
Here let me help you. You can begin with „I used that word because....“ you can continue that sentence.)
OBSERVATION: You continue to be 'personal' with the other member in your exchanges.
Post # 55: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/russ...garding-hong-kong.668207/page-4#post-12369832
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Ok so are you an Indonesian? Do you submit to Pancasila and UUD45?
Anyway, why would I be an anti Chinese? Just because I am not always agreeing with Chinese members in this forum does not mean I am anti Chinese. Your world view is too narrow if you think that anyone that disagrees with China must hate China and Chinese. Ask Indos for example about how many times I disagree with his tendencies towards islamic Indonesia, do I hate him? Not at all.)
OBSERVATION: You mentioned that again.
IN SUMMARY: You are/were absolutely persistent in trying to be 'personal' with the other member even though he requested you to desist TWICE, and you did issue a personal attack as well (post # 49).
The other member REPORTED you instead of trying to be personal with you which was the right decision on his part.
And when I intervened and issued you an advice with good intentions:
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/russ...garding-hong-kong.668207/page-4#post-12370244
- you have the following response:
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/russ...garding-hong-kong.668207/page-5#post-12370276
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Ok so you are accusing me of personal attacks simply by asking questions
while I was being called names during the entire conversation? Did you even see and understand why I asked the question? Just because I didnt cry for it does not mean they are not personal attack to me as well.
I mean we know the mods have favoritism complex here and my expectation was low, but holy moly this is a new low.)
CORRECTION: I am not 'accusing' you of personal attacks, you are GUILTY of this (see Post # 49) as well as your persistence about questioning nationality of the other member (attack).
What NAMES your were being called by the other member since PAGE 3? Completely BASELESS accusation from you.
And at the bottom, you issue a blanket judgement about Moderators. Very nice of you.
I simply requested you to not try to be personal with other members here, and consider REPORTING function
if a member insult/abuse you.
And now you are misbehaving with me as well; questioning my judgement and more.
YOU need to get your act together and STOP trying to be PERSONAL with other members in your exchanges. If you suspect a FALSE-FLAGGER, consider REPORTING in this case as well.
YOU BETTER LISTEN AND LEARN TO DESIST WHEN REQUESTED TO.
Mod, i want to ask, if one using a country flag but keep flattering other National and insulting the flag he/she is using you will wonder if she/he is false flagger or not right? this particular member
@Daniel808 is using Indonesian flag but keep demeaning Indonesian at every moment possible and praising China communist as country made in heaven repeatedly, and i remember there is rule here about false flagger right?
I do not have an issue with POLITICAL VIEWS of any member here.
I do have an issue with one member trying to be PERSONAL with another member in an exchange instead of addressing his/her arguments (SEE ABOVE).
When a STAFF MEMBER intervenes in an exchange and offer an advice to one member in GOOD FAITH, it is better to consider said advice and not misbehave with the STAFF MEMBER in return. The member (nufix) is found to be GUILTY of PERSONAL ATTACKS (versus another member) as well as MISBEHAVIOR with a MODERATOR in this very thread when requested to DESIST (versus me).
Regarding a member being a FALSE-FLAGGER, you may consider REPORTING him/her if you 'suspect' this to be the case. WE will look into this aspect as well.
