Russian Show in Syria - lets discuss

[HimalyanKingdom]

Well, in general, I am not a big fan of all the sh.t, as some people here in Russia (just like many boys in other places of the Planet) "enjoying the show" of testing weapons (those who overplayed PC games). I kinda think that killing people in general is bad (once the terrorists were all born by their mothers and were loved etc ), and really think that most attention should be devoted to not harming civils in there

They will test the weapons , No doubt, every one does. Point is, if supersonic CMs can be more useful and accurate so that this minimizes the collateral damage in the surrounding than old systems. Because wars will happen in future too and if they use these there, it will again cause causality in mass.

 

[Bismarck]

...kinda hard be going denying the rubbish talks like dat...

Again, what's your intention in Syria and why?

 

[FlyCheatter]

Again, what's your intention in Syria and why?

... me kinda don't like the chancellor Merkel, but she just like Assad in Syria is legitimate leader of the (corresp) contry, like it or not. Say, Gaddafi wasn't very pleasent person, though being legit leader (dictator who made Libya undergoing modernisation/development, economically/other means) he faced mil riot in his country.. he kinda brutallized it, so Russia agreed on non-flying zone in UN (so he, the Gaddafi stops using planes against militants due to those cuzzing too many civil damage).. elite in the West used it as a breach to havy bomming of the Libbya, killed the gaddafi, and from richest country made libya some blackhole.... Enough is kinda enough, or isn't it ... ( and kinda yep, they/rus-generals also want their mil base in mediterranean).. still doesn't oppose to the International law and it's violations by "West")

 

[cabatli_53]

I think it had more of a political message rather than actual military importance. The fact that the missiles were launched from Caspian sea, flew over Iran and Iraq to Syria, has a message of a much closer military cooperation between 4 countries, otherwise, Russians could easily launch them from their vessels in Mediterranean sea near Syrian coast, and it wouldn't even need long range and very expensive cruise missiles.

Citizens of Iranian city of Astara in Caspian coast reported they heard a loud noise early in the morning, which was most probably the Russian missiles.


@cabatli_53 As you know, Iran's western regions are very mountainous, do you think the Russian cruise missiles fix their altitude instantly based on land topography? Otherwise, they wouldn't have been able to pass Iran's territory considering the flight altitude of cruise missiles which is usually less than 100 meters. Am I right?

As far as I know, Russia didn't have effective E/O satellites (until a few years ago) to create all topographic zone's high resolution charts to command/update a strategic cruise missile's guidance in order to draw a route for navigating less than 100m above ground from Caspian sea to Syria passing around Iranian mountainous regions with continuously updateing altitude parameters. As far as I know, The best E/O satellite they was planning to launch on space, was around 0,8-1m resolution in a few years ago. This satellite certainly offers such capabilities but Routing such a big area thanks to such a small time of incident seems impossible to me. What they did is to take permission from Iranian officials to use Iranian air layers (maybe above the mountains without worrying to be detected by Iranian radars) which was targeted a specific zone to give a message to NATO.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

As far as I know, Russia didn't have effective E/O satellites (until a few years ago) to create all topographic zone's high resolution charts to command/update a strategic cruise missile's guidance in order to draw a route for navigating less than 100m above ground from Caspian sea to Syria passing around Iranian mountainous regions with continuously updateing altitude parameters. As far as I know, The best E/O satellite they was planning to launch on space, was around 0,8-1m resolution in a few years ago. This satellite certainly offers such capabilities but Routing such a big area thanks to such a small time of incident seems impossible to me. What they did is to take permission from Iranian officials to use Iranian air layers (maybe above the mountains without worrying to be detected by Iranian radars) which was targeted a specific zone to give a message to NATO.

Bro. I was a message against Türkiye. The Caspian Fleet was build up against the Ottoman Empire.

Nato Secretary General Stoltenberg :

NATO's rapid intervention Force is ready to be transferred to Türkiye.

We won't accept Russian provocations and will protect NATO as we do alreday in the BALTICS

 

[jamahir]

It is not IS dude. It is occupation of Syria like Crimea

if you are so worried about syria, get your government to arrest all those isil-loving reactionaries coming from all over the world ( india to uk ) and wanting to cross over into syria... arrest these isil/fsa potential recruits and hand them over to the syrian government.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

if you are so worried about syria, get your government to arrest all those isil-loving reactionaries coming from all over the world ( india to uk ) and wanting to cross over into syria... arrest these isil/fsa potential recruits and hand them over to the syrian government.

You should be careful with your comments ! In India are almost living 200 Million Indian Muslims and they don't rape and in public gang bang your women. But you could be very easy in a civil war. Who you are to condemn Türkiye, without knowing facts ?

@jamahir

 

[jamahir]

You should be careful with your comments ! In India are almost living 200 Million Indian Muslims and they don't rape your women. But you could be very easy in a civil war. Who you are to condemn Türkiye, without knowing facts ?

firstly, i am muslim, sunni, socialist.

secondly, what are these facts about turkey?? for one, i know that many turks want erdogan removed.

thirdly, there could be civil war in india in two or three years but that has no connection to syria.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

firstly, i am muslim, sunni, socialist.

secondly, what are these facts about turkey?? for one, i know that many turks want erdogan removed.

thirdly, there could be civil war in india in two or three years but that has no connection to syria.

Opposition wants removed Erdogan together with some foreign fronts . But thats normal on the globe. Isnt it ?

Opposition wants removed Erdogan together with some foreign fronts . But thats normal on the globe. Isnt it ?

I hope not civil war in India. 1,4 Billion other believing against 200 Million Muslims. Catastrophe

 

[jamahir]

Opposition wants removed Erdogan together with some foreign fronts . But thats normal on the globe. Isnt it ?

i didn't mean the centrist kemalists who seem to be no different from the ikhwaanis of akp in their loyalty to nato... i mean the leftist ones ( List of political parties in Turkey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ) including dhkp-c.

from the turkish representation on pdf, it would seem to non-turks that entire turkey supports the government stand on syria, but that is not true... i myself know turks on facebook who support bashar al-assad.

I hope not civil war in India. 1,4 Billion other believing against 200 Million Muslims. Catastrophe

well, i too hope not but that is how things are turning out... prime minister modi is slient on the provocative statements and criminal activities by his party/movement members... he is the most silent indian pm ever.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

i didn't mean the centrist kemalists who seem to be no different from the ikhwaanis of akp in their loyalty to nato... i mean the leftist ones ( List of political parties in Turkey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ) including dhkp-c.

from the turkish representation on pdf, it would seem to non-turks that entire turkey supports the government stand on syria, but that is not true... i myself know turks on facebook who support bashar al-assad.



well, i too hope not but that is how things are turning out... prime minister modi is slient on the provocative statements and criminal activities by his party/movement members... he is the most silent indian pm ever.

DHKP-C is an terror organization comparable with RED ARMY in Japan and Germany.

They are not opposition. They want a Marxist- and curious Stalinist Revolution and a new kind of communism;

I don't care what others are talking cyberspace. Thx bro.

 

[21 Dec 2012]

Again, what's your intention in Syria and why?

They are taking part in an unofficial Red Flag exercise with the US.

DHKP-C is an terror organization comparable with RED ARMY in Japan and Germany.

They are not opposition. They want a Marxist- and curious Stalinist Revolution and a new kind of communism;

I don't care what others are talking cyberspace. Thx bro.

Weren't you the one who was going to educate me about German/Japanese enrichment capabilities.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

They are taking part in an unofficial Red Flag exercise with the US.

Weren't you the one who was going to educate me about German/Japanese enrichment capabilities.

Yes and they have, whats your problem ? Germany is the country who build French nuke ignitors. Just Google , I am not your teacher here

 

[FlyCheatter]

You should be careful with your comments ! In India are almost living 200 Million Indian Muslims and they don't rape and in public gang bang your women. But you could be very easy in a civil war. Who you are to condemn Türkiye, without knowing facts ?

@jamahir

...and more to the "
Turkish involvement in the Syrian Civil War
"

Turkey trained defectors of the Syrian Army on its territory, and in July 2011, a group of them announced the birth of the Free Syrian Army, under the supervision of Turkish military intelligence.[1] In October 2011, Turkey began sheltering the Free Syrian Army, offering the group a safe zone and a base of operations. Together with Saudi Arabia andQatar, Turkey has also provided the rebels with arms and other military equipment.

Syrian opposition activists convened in Istanbul in May to discuss regime change,[3] and Turkey hosts the head of the Free Syrian Army, Colonel Riad al-Asaad.[4] Turkey has become increasingly hostile to the Assad government's policies and has encouraged reconciliation among dissident factions. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has been trying to "cultivate a favorable relationship with whatever government would take the place of Assad."[5] Beginning in May 2012, some Syrian opposition fighters began being armed and trained by the Turkish National Intelligence Organisation.

On 27 March 2014 an audio tape recording of high-level Turkish officials discussing Turkey's Syria strategy was released on YouTube.[9] The officials discussed a false flag operation that would lead to an invasion of Syria. YouTube was subsequently blocked in Turkey.//

Leaked plans stated that sometime during the first couple of weeks in July, up to 18 thousand troops would invade Syria via the Jarablus and Aazaz border crossings, areas in the hands of ISIL and the Free Syrian Army respectively

On August 25, 2015 Turkish newspaper Bugün ran a front-page story showing alleged transfer of weapon and explosives from Turkey to ISIL through Akcakale border post. A couple of days later offices of Koza İpek Media Group, the owner of the newspaper, were raided by Turkish police

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Turkish involvement in the Syrian Civil War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Turkey’s war against the Kurds only helps Isil - Telegraph
"Turkey's intelligence agency has been involved in escorting over 60 Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) extremist militants over the Turkish border into Syria"
Nokta: Turkish intel delivers 60 foreign fighters to ISIL in Syria
....

The Caspian Fleet was build up against the Ottoman Empire.

...gee, u're definately fcucked up in the head . LOL

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

...and more to the "
Turkish involvement in the Syrian Civil War
"



...
Turkish involvement in the Syrian Civil War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Turkey’s war against the Kurds only helps Isil - Telegraph
"Turkey's intelligence agency has been involved in escorting over 60 Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) extremist militants over the Turkish border into Syria"
Nokta: Turkish intel delivers 60 foreign fighters to ISIL in Syria
....

...gee, u're definately fcucked up in the head . LOL

How old are you ? Do you know history ? or are you only drinking Vodka and pray NIGHT WOLVES ?

[TMP] "Russian Fleet against Ottoman Empire." Topic