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Russian Show in Syria - lets discuss

My first comment :

solution without war could be ;

- Complete international isolation of Russia and Iran

otherwise Russia will soon try to occupy 50 km corridor to Kaliningrad to the Baltics
 
Russia fired 26 Cruise missiles from 4 ships located in Caspian Sea on targets in Syria.

Rusya'dan gövde gösterisi ! Hazar'dan Suriye'yi vurdu..

I think it had more of a political message rather than actual military importance. The fact that the missiles were launched from Caspian sea, flew over Iran and Iraq to Syria, has a message of a much closer military cooperation between 4 countries, otherwise, Russians could easily launch them from their vessels in Mediterranean sea near Syrian coast, and it wouldn't even need long range and very expensive cruise missiles.

Citizens of Iranian city of Astara in Caspian coast reported they heard a loud noise early in the morning, which was most probably the Russian missiles.


@cabatli_53 As you know, Iran's western regions are very mountainous, do you think the Russian cruise missiles fix their altitude instantly based on land topography? Otherwise, they wouldn't have been able to pass Iran's territory considering the flight altitude of cruise missiles which is usually less than 100 meters. Am I right?
 
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My first comment :

solution without war could be ;

- Complete international isolation of Russia and Iran

otherwise Russia will soon try to occupy 50 km corridor to Kaliningrad to the Baltics

Ain't both these countries already isolated ?

There are few big economies like China, Brazil, India who will never allow West sanctions on both these countries.

What if Russia stop supplying gas to Europe and Turkey ? How long will you be able to stand ?

And the famous Iranian Ego, Arrogance, nationalism always visible on PDF went into dustbin the very Next:coffee:
How Stupid are the circumstances that Iranian member didn't even left to complain about it either:rofl:

Could you please elaborate on it ?
 
And the famous Iranian Ego, Arrogance, nationalism always visible on PDF went into dustbin the very Next:coffee:
How Stupid are the circumstances that Iranian member didn't even left to complain about it either:rofl:

With all due respect, What the hell are you talking about? Complain about what?
 
@Serpentine

The same was told to me from friends who are living near Rasht.

It is obviously a show, of course they could have do it from ships in Mediterranean. I believe Iran agreed to it.

NOE flights are theoretical possible up to 15 meters !

It seems they have a perfect cartography of Iran.

Turkish PM

"We prefer not be a part of Russians War in Syria. We are in diplomatic negotiations with Russia.
But all can happen unexpected "!

Davutoğlu: Hukuk ihlalleri devam ederse ne olacağını kestirmek çok güç | Gündem Haberleri
 
It is obviously a show, of course they could have do it from ships in Mediterranean. I believe Iran agreed to it.
Yes, they certainly asked before launching them, not only Iran, but also Iraq. Russian DM also declared it:

The missile attacks came from Russia’s fleet in the Caspian Sea, which borders Russia, Iran and three other littoral countries. The precision weapons hit all intended targets. The attacks required cooperation from Iran and Iraq, as the missiles had to travel through their airspace to reach Syria.

The Russian Defense Ministry said it had worked with its partners to plan the flight path so that the missiles traveled only over desolate areas and didn’t pose any danger to civilians.

4 Russian warships launch 26 missiles against ISIS from Caspian Sea — RT News

NOE flights are theoretical possible up to 15 meters !

It seems they have a perfect cartography of Iran.

I don't think that works only by knowing cartography. Cartography of all areas on earth are now available all thanks to advanced satellites. The missile should have a mechanism to pass mountains and and natural land terrain. There is a huge +3000m mountain range in the path of the missiles. The most reasonable scenario is auto correction of missile altitude I suppose.

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Ain't both these countries already isolated ?

There are few big economies like China, Brazil, India who will never allow West sanctions on both these countries.

What if Russia stop supplying gas to Europe and Turkey ? How long will you be able to stand ?



Could you please elaborate on it ?

Friend, most gas power plants in Türkiye stopped working cause they are too expensive. Some are dismantled and sold to far East.
Read more about Turkish Energy Policy please. We have other fossil alternatives running

@Serpentine Yes of course, I am not expert on Russian systems but I believe that there is terrain following radar also integrated.

Sorry, wtf is Irak ?
 
Turkey should keep out of harms way and don't start conflicting with Russia in Syria. We are currently developing a strong defence industry, we can under no circumstances risk it because of Syria. Our strategy of delay when it comes to realpolitik should be prioritized, there will come a time when we are powerful enough to be more assertive, the time is not now! We can't count on NATO to have our backs, when it comes to national interest we can only count on ourselves.
 
Friend, most gas power plants in Türkiye stopped working cause they are too expensive. Some are dismantled and sold to far East.
Read more about Turkish Energy Policy please. We have other fossil alternatives running

@Serpentine Yes of course, I am not expert on Russian systems but I believe that there is terrain following radar also integrated.

Sorry, wtf is Irak ?

For home use Türkiye also imports LNG and has huge depots under the earth

Turkey should keep out of harms way and don't start conflicting with Russia in Syria. We are currently developing a strong defence industry, we can under no circumstances risk it because of Syria. Our strategy of delay when it comes to realpolitik should be prioritized, there will come a time when we are powerful enough to be more assertive, the time is not now! We can't count on NATO to have our backs, when it comes to national interest we can only count on ourselves.

we will see the decision makers
 
They fired 26 cruise missiles and 11 have hit ther targets:-). Sovjet junk, i think they are discharging old missiles.
26 missiles hit 11 targets.

Do you see the difference between what you wrote and what i said?
 

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