Russian Marines Battle ISIS in Syria

[Saif al-Arab]

You mispelled Saudi Arabia.

No, you must be blind to history and what is going on currently.

Lastly you failed to write the word "misspell" (misspelled in your case) correctly.

Anyway the Russians did well when they defeated you some 200 years ago (more than once even) and captured your land. They and their successor states have held it ever since.

The Al-Assad regime will collapse eventually and there is nothing anyone can do to prevent that. I suggest that you and others come to terms with that.

 

[Mitro]

Russian should send Chechens to fight isis then see how they run like headless chickens

 

[Falcon29]

Russia seems desperate to repeat the catastrophic mistakes that they committed in Afghanistan and Chechnya. Good for them.

Keep wasting billions on a lost war, Putin.

Soon increased insurgency in occupied Caucasus will emerge. The plots have just begun. Meanwhile nearby Ukraine is burning. Political isolation and an economy close to collapse.

All for a ridicolous naval base in Tartus.

ISIS has no presence in Latakia, another lame propaganda thread from Shia propagandists.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

ISIS has no presence in Latakia, another lame propaganda thread from Shia propagandists.

I did not even bother to read the actual "article". The Al-Assad regime fanboys here somehow believe that more covert support from Russia will somehow magically make the Al-Assad regime victorious totally ignoring everything else in the process.

I am yet to see an Al-Assad fanboy articulate why and how Al-Assad will become victorious and why his regime is the future for Syria.

This will just prolong the conflict, an financially struggling Russia will waste more billions of dollars and this will just increase the support for the Syrian opposition. In return you can expect the conflict next door in Ukraine to increase in scale.

Not to forget the insurgency in Caucasus waking up.

That is IF they are foolish enough to actually start a wider aerial campaign against the Syrian opposition.

Let them shot themselves in the foot like they did in Afghanistan, Chechnya, Ukraine and now more than ever in Syria.

Their increased support for Al-Assad will have consequences for them and their allies. No doubt about it.

 

[Serpentine]

This news is not true. ISIS doesn't have any presence near Latakia, never had.

 

[somebozo]

The news appears in co-relation to another event being discussed in this thread.

Hot News: US Trained & Funded Moderate Rebels Join Alqaeda Soon After Entering Syria From Turkey !!

IF Russian presence has no significance in Syria, why did the Saudis went to Moscow to negotiate measures against ISIS with Russia? You seem to be completely on radar on recent developments between Riyadh and Moscow against ISIS..

Saudi foreign minister in Moscow for Syria-focused talks

I did not even bother to read the actual "article". The Al-Assad regime fanboys here somehow believe that more covert support from Russia will somehow magically make the Al-Assad regime victorious totally ignoring everything else in the process.

I am yet to see an Al-Assad fanboy articulate why and how Al-Assad will become victorious and why his regime is the future for Syria.

This will just prolong the conflict, an financially struggling Russia will waste more billions of dollars and this will just increase the support for the Syrian opposition. In return you can expect the conflict next door in Ukraine to increase in scale.

Not to forget the insurgency in Caucasus waking up.

That is IF they are foolish enough to actually start a wider aerial campaign against the Syrian opposition.

Let them shot themselves in the foot like they did in Afghanistan, Chechnya, Ukraine and now more than ever in Syria.

Their increased support for Al-Assad will have consequences for them and their allies. No doubt about it.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

The news appears in co-relation to another event being discussed in this thread.

Hot News: US Trained & Funded Moderate Rebels Join Alqaeda Soon After Entering Syria From Turkey !!

IF Russian presence has no significance in Syria, why did the Saudis went to Moscow to negotiate measures against ISIS with Russia? You seem to be completely on radar on recent developments between Riyadh and Moscow against ISIS..

Saudi foreign minister in Moscow for Syria-focused talks

What's the relevance of that over 1 month old article? KSA and Russia have been talking about Syria for 4 years now. At times closely. KSA-Russia relations have improved significantly recently as well. States who are not neighbors, historical rivals and who have no conflict (as in the case of KSA and Russia) don't stop talking or doing business just because of various political differences.

I have nothing against Russians or Russia but I don't like Russia's role in Syria. It will do them nothing good. If they had any brains they would have struck a deal with the anti-Assad camp a long time ago. It's not like they have to prove any kind of chivalry considering that Russia is famous for backstabbing allies historically speaking.

In any case, as I have written many times earlier, this will just prolong the inevitable. The eventual collapse of the murderous Al-Assad regime. The same regime which helped give rise to ISIS. The biggest reason for their rise without a single drop of doubt. In fact it was a major fault of the world community not to have acted military against the Al-Assad regime like against Gaddafi. It would have saved 1000's upon 1000's of lives. The aftereffects would not have been as bad as the conflict has been for the past 2-3 years and likely will be for years to come.

Most politicians and analysts regardless of ideology admit that today. I called for it a few months into the conflict where I could see where this would go. The regional Muslim leaders and the world powers lacked balls though. Too many conflicting interests.

If that had happened Syrians might have been able to visit the ballot box (a real election not the ridiculous fraud that we witnessed) to decide their future and serve as an example for other Arab and non-Arab countries in the region and wider region. A bit like how Tunisia should serve as a role model for Libya next door and Algeria.

 

[somebozo]

The Russia also do not like Saudi role in Syria..so its is a balanced game...The mentality which gave rise to ISIS is not native to Syria..

What's the relevance of that over 1 month old article? KSA and Russia have been talking about Syria for 4 years now. At times closely. KSA-Russia relations have improved significantly recently as well. States who are not neighbors, historical rivals and who have no conflict (as in the case of KSA and Russia) don't stop talking or doing business just because of various political differences.

I have nothing against Russians or Russia but I don't like Russia's role in Syria. It will do them nothing good. If they had any brains they would have struck a deal with the anti-Assad camp a long time ago. It's not like they have to prove any kind of chivalry considering that Russia is famous for backstabbing allies historically speaking.

In any case, as I have written many times earlier, this will just prolong the inevitable. The eventual collapse of the murderous Al-Assad regime. The same regime which helped give raise to ISIS. In fact it was a major fault of the world community not to have acted military against the Al-Assad regime like against Gaddafi. It would have saved 1000's upon 1000's of lives. The aftereffects would not have been as bad as the conflict has been for the past 2-3 years and likely will be for years to come.

Most politicians and analysts regardless of ideology admit that today. I called for it a few months into the conflict where I could see where this would go. The regional Muslim leaders and the world powers lacked balls though. Too many conflicting interests.

If that had happened Syrians might have been able to visit the ballot box (a real election not the ridiculous fraud that we witnessed) and decide their future.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

The Russia also do not like Saudi role in Syria..so its is a balanced game...The mentality which gave rise to ISIS is not native to Syria..

Who said that they are not free to support their favorite mass-murdering regime of late? Not me.

Anyway not sure what your initial post has to do with ISIS? Do you really think that Russia would just stick to bombing ISIS? No, they would obviously bomb everyone else that is anti-Al-Assad regime. Whether Arab, Kurd, Christian, Druze and regardless of ideology. Just like we have seen it with the Al-Assad regime for the past 4 years. Civilians and non-civilians.

ISIS and such groups are just an excuse for the tyrants in the Muslim world to prevent democracy and social and political rights from occurring. In the GCC it's the fear of political dissidents, Iran, Shia military groups and in Iran and among Shia's it's the opposite way around + political dissidents. All to create an us against them situation so the people can forget about everything else and just accept status quo or very slow changes. In secular dictatorships it's "Islamists" or whatever labels that are seen as a threat at a specific time period. In the case of Syria it was also pro-Western people and everyone who was not a fan of Ba'athism. Same story in Iraq under Saddam.
Exact same story in your home country as well on certain areas. Whether military dictatorships or corrupt politicians rulling.

That's why I and millions of the 450 million Arabs all across the world will not accept the lesser evil (Al-Assad vs ISIS). We want neither! Dumb foreigners don't understand this and have no idea about anything in the Arab world and are currently (due to the political climate) obsessed with Muslims so every Muslim is an ISIS member or a potential one in their retarded brains. People who are anti-Assad must be ISIS of course as well. The logic of simpletons.

@Falcon29

 

[HAIDER]

Russian should send Chechens to fight isis then see how they run like headless chickens

Russian after 2800 Chechen in Syria...

 

[Falcon29]

I did not even bother to read the actual "article". The Al-Assad regime fanboys here somehow believe that more covert support from Russia will somehow magically make the Al-Assad regime victorious totally ignoring everything else in the process.

I am yet to see an Al-Assad fanboy articulate why and how Al-Assad will become victorious and why his regime is the future for Syria.

This will just prolong the conflict, an financially struggling Russia will waste more billions of dollars and this will just increase the support for the Syrian opposition. In return you can expect the conflict next door in Ukraine to increase in scale.

Not to forget the insurgency in Caucasus waking up.

That is IF they are foolish enough to actually start a wider aerial campaign against the Syrian opposition.

Let them shot themselves in the foot like they did in Afghanistan, Chechnya, Ukraine and now more than ever in Syria.

Their increased support for Al-Assad will have consequences for them and their allies. No doubt about it.

Well I'm going to stop posting on the forum with exceptions of really major news that requires my attention. Other than that though, too many irrational cheerleaders here who don't question their stances and too many bigoted anti Sunni shias. It's not worth my time nor the headache. Good luck and I advise you to do the same.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Well I'm going to stop posting on the forum with exceptions of really major news that requires my attention. Other than that though, too many irrational cheerleaders here who don't question their stances and too many bigoted anti Sunni shias. It's not worth my time nor the headache. Good luck and I advise you to do the same.

I already took an almost 3 week break for similar reasons until I resurfaced yesterday. I don't know if they are Shias or not and I don't really care what annoys me is the amount of simpletons, ignorants and people who don't look for a debate but a confrontation.

I will be busy with studies and work for the next few months so I won't be very active but I might resurface from time to time. It's hard to ignore all the nonsense that I see in the Yemen thread for instance. You have 4-5 Houthi cult cheerleaders who are posting their propaganda. I know that I can always join the numerous Arab military forums again (Arab Defence, Arabic Military, Arab Aviation etc.) but there the problem is the lack of foreigners and somewhat similar opinions which is tiring. There are too many blind regime fanboys for my liking too. I don't blame them as this is the case all over the MENA/Muslim world for reasons we both know.

I also sometimes miss the good old PDF which although much more active and at times more hectic had numerous excellent users and great discussions. Nowadays it's meh. I used to update lots of great threads too but now I don't really bother. Zero response often as well contrary to earlier times. Few Arab users left too. 2/3 of them have left or so in the past 1-2 years ago. A shame. I guess that people move on and so will we.

Please reread post 24 brother and see the video.

 

[Falcon29]

I already took an almost 3 week break for similar reasons until I resurfaced yesterday. I don't know if they are Shias or not and I don't really care what annoys me is the amount of simpletons, ignorants and people who don't look for a debate but a confrontation.

I will be busy with studies and work for the next few months so I won't be very active but I might resurface from time to time. It's hard to ignore all the nonsense that I see in the Yemen thread for instance. You have 4-5 Houthi cult cheerleaders who are posting their propaganda. I know that I can always join the numerous Arab military forums again (Arab Defence, Arabic Military, Arab Aviation etc.) but there the problem is the lack of foreigners and somewhat similar opinions which is tiring. There are too many blind regime fanboys for my liking too. I don't blame them as this is the case all over the MENA/Muslim world for reasons we both know.

I also sometimes miss the good old PDF which although much more active and at times more hectic had numerous excellent users and great discussions. Nowadays it's meh. I used to update lots of great threads too but now I don't really bother. Zero response often as well contrary to earlier times. I guess people move on and so will we.

Please reread post 24 brother and see the video.

I'm on mobile so I can't see post numbers. Is it that one explaining why he brings up ISIS everytime? I agree with your post. Evrrytime however we need to repeat ourselves. They do it intentionally to silence any cricitism of the regime. Which to me is form of trolling but moderators dont have time to deal with it. So I will resurface if something catches my attention, but I'll view things offline. I'm done posting. Just tag me if you need me for anything and maybe I'll log back in.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

I'm on mobile so I can't see post numbers. Is it that one explaining why he brings up ISIS everytime? I agree with your post. Evrrytime however we need to repeat ourselves. They do it intentionally to silence any cricitism of the regime. Which to me is form of trolling but moderators dont have time to deal with it. So I will resurface if something catches my attention, but I'll view things offline. I'm done posting. Just tag me if you need me for anything and maybe I'll log back in.

That guy is a Pakistani who lives in KSA. He is all right although he tends to have silly anti-Muslim outbursts occasionally. At least that is how I know him. Not seen him around for a very long time. You know among a lot of Muslims here (or self-proclaimed ones, not even talking about the non-Muslims) it has become fashion to criticize/insult Muslims and Islam 24/7 in a totally ridiculous and simplistic fashion. Many users who were rightly anti-Assad regime have now turned around. Why? Due to the political climate.

As we two have witnessed nowadays, even on a MAJORITY MUSLIM FORUM LIKE PDF, anti-Assad in the head of simpletons = ISIS supporter. That's what this has come to.

I always wondered how self-proclaimed liberals and atheists (I have no problem with any of them) are so intolerant for ordinary Muslims like me and you. We are not even that religious to begin with and I for once do not even identify as an Islamist.

Since you are on mobile you might be unable to see the video I posted. It's Iyad al-Baghdadi and Arab social activist of Palestinian background who is speaking about the Arab Spring, the regimes, the region etc. It's short but a powerful message that few of us can truly disagree with regardless of ideology. It gave me hope and I know that there are millions of him out there. I actually think that we two belong in that same group of people who wish for changes to occur as soon as possible and for new alternatives.

As he said in the video, just because it appears like you can only see the options of black and white (regimes and extremists as he says) on the horizon initially it does not mean that you cannot find all the other colors out there which form the majority. They just lack organization and a united front. He was alluding to people like you and me and the millions among us who are afraid of speaking their mind freely or who are prevented one way or another. In my eyes the silent majority.

Here is the video. Not sure if you can see if but if you open your computer you should be able to see the video. It's short. 15 minutes or so.

For sure and just tag me as well. Anyone is free to do that. Got to go. Take care.

 

[Ceylal]

I hope the Russians beheaded the ISIS ba$tards after the fight.

Ask the Lebanese who kidnapped two Russians low level diplomats in the late 80's. The Russian brought in the Casacks, the nemesis of the bearded wahabi to deal with ISIS and all the armed goons that Saudi Arabia armed and financed...Time for laugh is over...Now Isis have a real good reason to wear black, it is a time of no ending tears and funerals for those beasts..