Russian CPEC decision keeps India on tentrehooks

[Parwez Khuri]

Russia Ne SU 35 Pakistan ko de diye!!
Russia Ne CPEC Join kar liya !!

Next ??


not to forget SU 35 !! aane hi waale hain !

SU 35 to pakistan kea pass pahley se hain, abb to S500 ayega. russia is their brother mulk.

ek choti ci statement release hoti hain usko itna bada bana detey hain. seriously they are crazy.

har country enko kitna humiliate karta hain , inko farak nahi padta.

For example: 1. trump se phone par baat hui, trump ki team nea clarification dena pada. issey jayda insult or kya ho sakti hain. or abb inkey Fatmi sahab, trump kea invitation ka jugad karney gaye hain. jaise taise invitation mill jaye. issey sharam ki baat or kya ho sakti hain. bilkul besharam hain.

2, Russia ko cpec or su 35 par clarification deni padi. sab kuch fake chalta hain.

3. bollywood pe khud ban lagaya, jab aukat pata chal gayi khud hi ban hata liya

4. KSA and IRAN enko gaas nahi daltey , but wo inkey islamic brother mulk hain. aab kon samjhaye ki bhaiya religion se pahley har country kea apney interest hotey hain. actually religion koi factor ho hi nahi sakta kisi kea like or dislike mea.

 

[Aasimkhan]

oh !!

dard hua naa? aisee awaz hi nikalti hai jab takleef hoti hai

 

[war&peace]

I disagree. If it's strictly about trade, China and India will use the quickest and/or fastest route. If CPEC offers this, then why not use it?

I think he may be referring to the long border between India and China, however, as compared to Chabahaar, CPEC will be much faster whether India comes from sea routes i.e. Gwader or land route i.e. Wagah.

 

[Windjammer]

Russia Ne SU 35 Pakistan ko de diye!!
Russia Ne CPEC Join kar liya !!

Next ??

Next, Russia shows middle finger to India.


At the Brics Goa summit in October, Russia chose not to help India publicly name Pakistan based terrorist outfits like Lashkar and Jaish in the official declaration in the face of Chinese resistance.

 

[punit]

Next, Russia shows middle finger to India.


At the Brics Goa summit in October, Russia chose not to help India publicly name Pakistan based terrorist outfits like Lashkar and Jaish in the official declaration in the face of Chinese resistance.

aCHHA hai ! SU 35 kab aa rahe hain !

 

[Zee-shaun]

BRICS is a multi national organization so it never expected a statement I'm like what the media said.

Why bring up the agenda when it doesn't concern a multi national forum unless you have developed a fetish for being slapped left and right?

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

So what if Russia joins CPEC, in whatever capacity? Modi and friends need to just chill. They are conflating economic interests with strategic ones. Even India will be using CPEC to ship goods to and from China.

India needs to accept the fact that Russia is becoming like the United States, in that it will have separate relations with both India and Pakistan.

India and Russia relationship is ever green, you invested billions of dollars ,and still investing, also they supported you in 1971. But now you have to walk with the world, Economics dynamic is changing, Its about strategic interests, partnerships , and you can't ignore important player like Pakistan. Hope India also join CPEC in future as it can play bridge role for good relation between two countries. Modi should stop policy to isolate Pakistan, Only cry babies do this. You can't ignore Pakistan as important player in South asia. Its better if modi understand this. Those statements "To isolate Pak" of modi were just for public consumption, and he is using it as political tool in election campaign which is bad.

 

[Zee-shaun]

Russia Ne SU 35 Pakistan ko de diye!!
Russia Ne CPEC Join kar liya !!

Next ??


not to forget SU 35 !! aane hi waale hain !

RD-93 episode started in similar way and we all know painful that ended for Indians.

 

[Windjammer]

SU 35 to pakistan kea pass pahley se hain, abb to S500 ayega. russia is their brother mulk.

ek choti ci statement release hoti hain usko itna bada bana detey hain. seriously they are crazy.

har country enko kitna humiliate karta hain , inko farak nahi padta.

For example: 1. trump se phone par baat hui, trump ki team nea clarification dena pada. issey jayda insult or kya ho sakti hain. or abb inkey Fatmi sahab, trump kea invitation ka jugad karney gaye hain. jaise taise invitation mill jaye. issey sharam ki baat or kya ho sakti hain. bilkul besharam hain.

2, Russia ko cpec or su 35 par clarification deni padi. sab kuch fake chalta hain.

3. bollywood pe khud ban lagaya, jab aukat pata chal gayi khud hi ban hata liya

4. KSA and IRAN enko gaas nahi daltey , but wo inkey islamic brother mulk hain. aab kon samjhaye ki bhaiya religion se pahley har country kea apney interest hotey hain. actually religion koi factor ho hi nahi sakta kisi kea like or dislike mea.

Look at you losers, can't hide your frustration.
All you Indians crawl on PDF like cockroaches , even after getting your a$$ kicked , you still return with fake IDs.
That's called humiliation.
Pakistan's popularity has made you Indians run around like headless Chicken.
Abey ghatya inssan, It's your newspapers reporting the news....,,.

 

[Zee-shaun]

No wonder Indians are most ignorant people on earth.

 

[Windjammer]

aCHHA hai ! SU 35 kab aa rahe hain !

Ask the Russian minister who first gave the news.
India was claiming , no Pak- Russia joint exercise will take place......Kaisi Lagey
India saying Russia not involved in CPEC......Aub woh bi bolti bandh ho gayee,
Lagta hey India apney aap ko Russia ka munshi samjta hey.

 

[maximuswarrior]

Russia throws its weight behind China-Pakistan corridor, keeps India on tenterhooks
Sachin Parashar| TNN | Updated: Dec 18, 2016, 11.40 PM IST


Russia's nebulous public position on its growing ties with Pakistan continues to give sleepless nights to Indian policymakers who have sought to isolate Islamabad on the issue of terrorism.

After it officially denied reports that it had shown any interest in China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), Moscow has not just declared strong support for the China-funded project but also announced its intention to link its own Eurasian Economic Union project with CPEC.

CPEC, which will link Gwadar in Pakistan's restive Balochistan province to Xinjiang in China, remains a major bugbear for Indian foreign policy as it passes through the Gilgit-Baltistan region in Pakistan occupied Kashmir (Azad Kashmir) claimed by India. Beijing has shown scant regard for India's concerns despite PM Narendra Modi himself having taken up the issue of Chinese involvement in the disputed territory with President Xi Jinping.

Moscow last month emphatically denied Pakistan media reports that it was looking to involve itself in CPEC by acquiring access to the port built by China at Gwadar. Russia's ambassador to Pakistan Alexey Y Dedov has now been quoted as saying that Russia and Pakistan have held discussions to merge Moscow's Eurasian Economic Union project with the CPEC.

Dedov said Russia "strongly" supported CPEC as it was important for Pakistan's economy and also regional connectivity.

The mixed signals emanating from Moscow, as strategic affairs expert Brahma Chellaney said, are injecting uncertainty in the direction of the Russia-India relationship whose trajectory long epitomized constancy and stability.

"It is as if Moscow no longer sees India as a reliable friend or partner. Indeed, by seeking common cause with India's regional adversaries — including by supporting the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor through internationally disputed territory and engaging with the Pakistan-backed Taliban — Russia is challenging India's core interests," said Chellaney.

India continues to officially maintain that it doesn't see any "downward trend" in relations with Russia even as it works behind the scenes to convince Moscow that Pakistan remained the fountainhead of terrorism in the region. For India though, Russia further queered the situation in Afghanistan by declaring that it regarded Afghan Taliban as a national military-political movement. Russia is looking to engage the Taliban apparently to defeat IS but, as the MEA spokesperson warned last week, India wants any engagement with Taliban to respect the internationally recognized red lines, including giving up violence and severing ties with al-Qaida.


The comments made by Dedov are only the latest in a series of Russian doublespeak on Pakistan this year. As it officially conveyed to Moscow, India was disturbed by Russia's decision to hold its first ever joint military exercise with Pakistan days after Uri terror strike which left 19 Indian soldiers dead. The Russians justified it by saying that the exercise was meant to help Pakistan deal with terrorism.

At the Brics Goa summit in October, Russia chose not to help India publicly name Pakistan based terrorist outfits like Lashkar and Jaish in the official declaration in the face of Chinese resistance.


Russia continues to insist that its ties with Pakistan will not come at India's cost. Asked about the Russia-Pakistan military exercise though, at the recent Heart of Asia conference, Russia's presidential envoy to Pakistan Zamir Kabulov said Moscow didn't complain about India's close cooperation with the US and so India also shouldn't complain about "much low level" of cooperation between Russia and Pakistan. India may or may not complain, but it's certainly watching with eyes wide open.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...india-on-tenterhooks/articleshow/56053869.cms

Smile Indians, Pakistan's isolation continues. !!!

Russia is smart. They are not going to put all their eggs in the Indian basket. Yes, their transactional relationship with India will continue, but Pakistan will be seen in a separate context.

 

[Windjammer]

Russia is smart. They are not going to put all their eggs in the Indian basket. Yes, their transactional relationship with India will continue, but Pakistan will be seen in a separate context.

The following lines by the Russian envoy ideally speak the Russian mind and their future plans.

''At the recent Heart of Asia conference, Russia's presidential envoy to Pakistan Zamir Kabulov said Moscow didn't complain about India's close cooperation with the US and so India also shouldn't complain about "much low level" of cooperation between Russia and Pakistan''.

Basically Russians are telling the Indians, if you can do it so can Russia, after all it's India which depends on Russia for weapons, not the other way round.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Reading comments by Modi internet brigade on TOI comment section is such a laugh. Now they want to stand on their own feet and give two finger salute to mother Russia. Fu**** hilarious.

Russia and its primary interest allign with Pakistan...It is not surprising. If Indian foreign policy makerrs are not prepared for this change, it the issue with our foreign policy establishment than Russia.

Again, that does not mean, things will drastically fall apart for India if Russia joins in CPEC...India's interest with Russia will be limited to Deference Deals and procurement with technology Transfer. As long as technology transfer will not be interupted, India and Russia will be each other partner. Of course, they will not be any more so called friend or partner in the context of Foreign policy of Indian establishment.

Think of Indo-Russian relations and its future as to how Pak-US relations were and where they are now. The trajectory will be similar. And then there is a case of China, a country which was marketed as bogyman for American/West support for India and also as a side effect (a very much planned and intended one) of such support to reduce Pakistan to some sort of client state in south Asia. The same China is encouraging Russia to join CPEC. Russians own geopolitical compulsions and their vulnerability on their western flanks are good enough reasons for them to have this alternate route to outside world. With Indian policy makers deeply involved with western civilization for a very long time, and moving India into western sphere of influence, there is not much India can do to influence Russian thinking.

 

[cloud4000]

I would understand if in the future India uses CPEC to trade with CAS states but why would they use it for trade with China. India has a border with China, which as far as i know it is already using for trade

No doubt there's trade on the China-India border, doesn't mean CPEC will not be used for trade, especially if goods are being delivered to the West Coast of India. It's also possible CPEC will not be used at all. Let's see what happens.

You are welcome to use CPEC and yes economy and strategic relations are two different things. I would like to add one more point since India is changing its strategic trusted partner and replacing Russia with US, Russia will have no option left but to join other group. India start the change and left Russia alone not Russia. India know the history between and US and Russia and choose US and eventually Russia have to chose someone else.

There's no doubt there's a re-balancing of relations in South Asia among the various countries. Don't know if Russia's growing relations with Pakistan has anything to do with India's growing relations with US. This may be part of the answer, but not the whole thing. I think terrorism, stability in Afghanistan, CAS, are also playing a part.