Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments

[Turingsage]

Kenya denounces Russia and this rise of new imperialism with a lesson from Africa's own history

 

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One thing is certain: truth is the first causality in a war...

I would argue even more so these days with Social Media Techno-Feudalism (social internet platform monopolies), misinformation (Fake News), and corrupt media (corporate greed)...

 

[alimobin memon]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1498374263346237450

Tanks have on board fire extinguishers then how will this work ?

 

[Elias MC]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1498539327286095873

 

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This is an American who lives in Kiev. According to him the Zelensky regime handed out weapons to criminals and now they’re looting and raping people. If you search his name he’s made other videos.

Gonzalo Lira

https://twitter.com/x/status/1498225986088751104

I am beginning to think the whole Zelensky regime is a Manchurian candidate (covert CIA) agent... Designed by the Banksters, Israel, and America to start a war for benefit of the war profiteers!

They needed to flush the system after the whole COVID debacle and failing fiat currency federal reserve system!

 

[Avicenna]

I am beginning to think the whole Zelensky regime is a Manchurian candidate (covert CIA) agent... Designed by the Banksters, Israel, and America to start a war for the war profiteers!

I think it goes beyond just profit.

But either the people that have created this are idiots.

Or they are thinking 2 levels above us.

 

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I think it goes beyond just profit.

But either the people that have created this are idiots.

Or they are thinking 2 levels above us.

Power and control.

 

[Gripen9]

Germany will experience energy shortages and rising costs for as long as the sanctions are in place. We are all going to experience the effects of this ill conceived war for many years to come, there are no winners. But those most affected will be the Ukrainian and Russian people.

A simple question is: was this worth the cost? The cost in lives as well as the economic and politcal cost. Many Russian people are already asking that question. Violence should always be the absolute last resort, Putin was only too willing to pull the trigger, and who knows how this is going to end (badly for everybody is probably the answer).

Is it ever worth it? War is misery. Unfortunately mankind has been at it for millennia.

 

[Avicenna]

I'm not a fan of Russia.

But Putin has something when he characterizes the West as the "empire of lies".

It's true.

The Western narrative is a pile of crap.

And I'm not talking about just Ukraine.

Whether it was Iraq, or COVID or 9/11, or take your pick.

The recent history has shown this.

In addition, also look at how the Western media is used in essence as propaganda.

It's disgusting.

To be honest, if your really want know, the Russian position is actually quite reasonable.

Examine the history of this conflict and tell me otherwise.

Its the US/NATO that has caused this.

 

[gambit]

I don't think it is possible for Russia to fully 'capture' Ukraine, they don't have the numbers to occupy the entire country and supress the on-going insurgency. It's probably going to be a long and bloody conflict with millions displaced and a death toll measured in the 100,000's, with much of the country reduced to rubble.

Putin won't back down, but neither will the Ukrainian people. That should be obvious to anybody at this point.

You cannot say things like that. The bulk of this thread so far is about how powerful Russia is, how Russia is going to win, and how humiliating is America. You are deviating from orthodoxy.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Pakistan ‘won’t take sides’ in UN debate on Ukraine​

Anwar IqbalPublished March 1, 2022 - Updated about 3 hours ago









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UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres speaks on the Russia-Ukraine conflict at the General Assembly emergency special session in New York, on Monday. — AFP


UNITED NATIONS: Pakistan has decided not to participate in the emergency session of the UN General Assembly that began on Monday to discuss the Ukrainian crisis.
“Pakistan has decided not to take sides on this issue,” a diplomatic source told Dawn. “Islamabad supports a peaceful and negotiated settlement.”

Prime Minister Imran Khan, who visited Moscow on the day the invasion began, defended his decision on Monday, saying that he was there to discuss bilateral issues only.
The General Assembly is expected to wind up its debate on Tuesday and by then representatives of more than 100 countries would have addressed the emergency session. The meeting will decide whether to support a US-sponsored resolution that demands Russia’s immediate withdrawal from Ukraine.

Ukraine’s ambassador to the UN Sergiy Kyslytsya warned the global body that “if Ukraine does not survive, the UN will not survive.”

Polish ambassador Krzysztof Szczerski told the meeting that Pakistani civilians and students were among those thousands of people who were seeking refuge in Poland and the Polish government was sheltering them.

The General Assembly has only held 10 emergency sessions since 1950, in line with a provision widely known as the ‘Uniting for Peace’ resolution.

The resolution gives the assembly the power to take up important matters when the Security Council is unable to act due to differences among its five permanent members.

A General Assembly debate is considered the world body’s second-best option because its resolutions are non-binding, unlike those of the Security Council.
The US, which initiated the debate, first went to the Security Council on Feb. 25, seeking a binding resolution, but Russia vetoed the effort.

As the debate began, UN Secretary-General António Guterres informed the assembly that while Russian strikes were largely targeting Ukrainian military facilities, they had “credible accounts” of non-military targets sustaining heavy damage.

“Enough is enough,” he said. “This escalating violence … is totally unacceptable. Soldiers need to move back to their barracks. Leaders need to move to peace.”

He also emphasized the need to respect “the sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of Ukraine, within its internationally recognized borders.”

Assembly President Abdulla Shahid informed the meeting: “As we convene here in the General Assembly, negotiators from both sides are holding talks in Belarus” to end the crisis that began last week.

Although China and India had abstained from the Feb. 25 vote in the Security Council, they participated in Monday’s debate.

China’s Permanent Representative Zhang Jun said China supports the EU, Nato and Russia resuming dialogue including the “legitimate” security concerns of all, including Moscow’s.
Russia defended its decision to invade Ukraine as member state after member state called for ending the war. Russian ambassador Vassily Nebenzia rejected the suggestion that Moscow launched the military operation to protect residents of breakaway regions in eastern Ukraine.

Published in Dawn, March 1st, 2022

Pak now needs geo-economics more than ever before! She has paid her dues in the geo-politics...

 

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You cannot say things like that. The bulk of this thread so far is about how powerful Russia is, how Russia is going to win, and how humiliating is America. You are deviating from orthodoxy.

Diversity of of opinion is what makes for engaging discourse. Who wants to sit in an echo chamber???

I think the bias for Russia in PDF (predominantly Pakistani content site) is due to decades of American and Pakistani antagonism, mistrust, and estranged relations between the two nations...

 

[Bengal71]

IMO, most countries will start trading with Russia using CIPS, the Chinese swift equivalent. India wants to create its INR-Ruble trading mechanism. Neither China or India will be sanctioned by the USA or EU. Russian has huge natural resources. Climate change will enhance its agricultural output. It has talented HR. Developing countries in Asia, Africa and Latin America cannot ignore it.

Yeah, India and China won't be sanctioned but other countries will.

 

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Pak now needs geo-economics more than ever before! She has paid her dues in the geo-politics...

Agree 100 % ... Enough fighting wars at the behest of others only to our own detriment...

Let them fight it out.... Not our war or cause...

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

I don't think it is possible for Russia to fully 'capture' Ukraine, they don't have the numbers to occupy the entire country and supress the on-going insurgency. It's probably going to be a long and bloody conflict with millions displaced and a death toll measured in the 100,000's, with much of the country reduced to rubble.

Putin won't back down, but neither will the Ukrainian people. That should be obvious to anybody at this point.

Given current military stance, Russia will probably partition Ukraine into western Ukraine and either puppeteer or outright annex the east and south with a border on the Dnieper.

These are the natural boundaries and the ethnolinguistic boundaries between Russian and Ukrainian speakers, and it doesn't require Russia to win Kiev, only win their already winning encirclement in the east and south.

If they win Kiev and the Ukrainian government doesn't surrender, then all bets are off.