Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments

[RescueRanger]

Who isnt a Kangaroo in this war

Read this tweet it’s FUBAR:

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[MeFishToo]

Show us a concrete example of proven, indisputable disinformation by Russia leading to the sort of catastrophes the US regime has been provoking with its lies.

Ukraine?

 

[Viet]

Back to USSR

Per IIF, Russia economy will shrink combined 18 percent this year and next. All 15y economic gains are wiped out.
30 years foreign investments are going down the toilet.

Russia's economic slump will wipe out 15 years of gains - IIF

Russia's economy will shrink 15% this year and 3% in 2023 as the hit from Western sanctions, an exodus of companies, a Russian "brain-drain" and collapse in exports wipe out 15 years of economic gains, a global banking industry lobby group said.

www.reuters.com

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

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Back to USSR

Per IIF, Russia economy will shrink combined 18 percent this year and next. All 15y economic gains are wiped out.
30 years foreign investments are going down the toilet.

Russia's economic slump will wipe out 15 years of gains - IIF

Russia's economy will shrink 15% this year and 3% in 2023 as the hit from Western sanctions, an exodus of companies, a Russian "brain-drain" and collapse in exports wipe out 15 years of economic gains, a global banking industry lobby group said.

www.reuters.com

No pain. No gain. This makes Russia independent. Just like 1989 Western sanction made China's domestic defense industry independent.

 

[ZeGerman]

Show us a concrete example of proven, indisputable disinformation by Russia leading to the sort of catastrophes the US regime has been provoking with its lies.

Which catastrophes you want?
Holodomor?
Warsaw?
Their abuse of the warsaw pact
Afghanistan
Chechnia (fsb staged attack)
And now Ukraine. “Denazifying”

They also support extremist and nationalistic forces in our society. That their manipulations were less effective at times is not for not trying.

And yet, your supposedly complex view of the world fails to account for hard facts like these. If Ukraine's Deputy Prosecutor General lied about his team not having found any evidence for poisoning, surely some of them would have raised their voices in protest, wouldn't they? Or was the entire department staffed by native Russian-speakers?

there was evidence for poisoning.
Kuzmin wanted their “own” bloodtest (with risk of manipulation).
Not something to object and lose your job over.

By the way, alleged demographic policies of Stalin are one of the reasons why the same Ukrainians you appear to be favorably biased towards, are now forming a majority in Galicia. So you may thank Stalin.

Also, what Russian-zionist nexus are you alluding to? Because with regards to Ukraine, Moscow and Tel Aviv are at loggerheads.

I know, just adding “zionist puppet” like you do on opposing claims.

Last but not least I never claimed non-Russian speakers in Ukraine are predestined to be NATO and zionist puppets. It's not my style of argumentation.



Why resort to rhetoric questions? You can read the papers instead, seeing how the answers you're looking for are contained therein.



Sure, Ukrainians are fighting like supermen... we can see that from the staggering amount of videos which surfaced showing demoralized Ukrainian troops complaining about inadequate equipment and displaying obvious unwillingness to join the front.

Most thought this war would be done it 3 days. Now were 30.000 dead russians and counting.

Although I'll concede that this mostly applies to the regular Ukrainian military, neo-Nazis and other far right extremists mobilized within regiments of their own not conforming to this rule, high as they are on captagon and morphine, ideologically conditioned as they are to engage in completely futile, statically entrenched, irrational and nihilistic resistance, perfectly echoing the Wehrmacht's attempted defence of Berlin in 1945.

This of course does nothing other than to cause additional damage to Ukraine's civilian infrastructure - which in fact they don't really care about, considering that it's affecting Russian-speaking areas for now.

Sure. Nazis nazis everywhere. Lets flatten cities!
Your just parroting russian propaganda. Extreme right is a small % of the many tens of thousands resisting russia right now.

Except that the purpose of those "color revolutions" was to set the stage for wholesale destabilization of Russia down the road, utilizing the anti-Russian stooges brought to power by NATO throughout Moscow's vicinity. In that sense, Russian intervention was provoked by a concrete and palpable threat of existential nature, and Russian intervention effectively averted destruction of potentially much greater scale.

For sovereign ukraine to have ties to EU? Yeah catastrophy.

Whereas recent military interventions and nefarious meddling by NATO (Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Sudan, Somalia, Afghanistan etc) were not triggered by any realistic menace to the security and territorial integrity of member states. None of the nations attacked, invaded, plundered, balkanized by western regimes and their allies represented a real formidable threat to the USA, Canada, Europe, Australia or New Zealand.

The actual motivation behind these military adventures was to prolong the brutally enforced dominance of the empire. Key differences you opt to ignore.

So you are in favour of more Saddams? Assads? Gaddafis?

But no earthly power, no matter how mighty, is eternal. And clearly, the zio-American empire has entered its phase of decline, much to the relief of mankind.



Russia's political order isn't dictatorial, it's democratic - just not liberal democratic. In many ways their model of governance is superior to the western one, and rather than trying to disparage it through clichéd catch-phrases, western regimes would benefit from taking the Russian system as a source of inspiration.

Yeah the entire eastern block just looved their system…

Such as?



This must be sort of an ironic remark. For last time I checked it was the US regime which, in breach of its promise to Gorbachev, kept expanding NATO across central and eastern Europe, with Russia essentially staying passive to these provocations. But that's over. NATO from now on will be reaping what it sowed.

Can you show me written promise?
Unlike russias written promise after the nuke deal with ukraine.

Russias colonial empire falling apart…what disaster…

A ceasefire is seldom violated for the first time by two opposing sides at the very same moment. One party initiates it, and in the case at hand it was the Kiev regime.

Moving goalspost. Both parties have multiple breaches on their name. And most of the deaths are due to seperatists.

I wasn't aware that spying onto itself qualifies as destabilization. As for the alleged financing of political parties by Moscow, I addressed this contention in a previous reply: not only have EU regimes only themselves to blame if they aren't satisfied with their own national legislation in this area, but what is more, if these allegations are true then Moscow would only be paying back the EU regimes for their systematic interference in Russia's domestic affairs via support for Russian opposition figures and parties.

How much more of europe does russia have to occupy? Even at its height it was still meddling and destabilizing the few western european countries it did not control.

You may want to a have a closer look then.



If you truly believe Russia's conduct of military operations in Ukraine is heavy handed compared to standard NATO procedure, where everything is basically flattened and questions asked later, you'll be pretty disconnected from ground reality.

Yes. Mariopol is worse then fallujah. Likely more civilian deathstoo.
Compare afghanistan…

I mention and describe the characteristics of US misconduct to highlight how far removed Russian policy is from that sort of misconduct, and how many decisive differences there are, setting apart the behaviour of these two governments on the international stage.

 

[Apollon]

Western men should stay in the West where life is good. Don't go to Donbas. Don't live in poverty on the front. Don't get killed when caught. Stay in the West. Stay.

Wrong. If Putin is not stopped in Donbass he will attack more and more.

 

[MeFishToo]

The DNR kangaroo court has sentenced the three captured members of Ukraine Foreign Legion to death.

To my knowlegde the british guys were serving with the ukrainian marines, and have been living in Ukraine for years.
Its dangerous for russias own forces, if they keep up this masquerade of rightiousness. The ukrainians could choose to do the same. Eventually no prisoners will be taken.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Wrong. If Putin is not stopped in Donbass he will attack more and more.

Putin protect Donbas children the same way America invaded Serbia to protect Kosovo children. Invasion is justified. Bullies will only stop if they are bunched in the teeth.

 

[Apollon]

Which catastrophes you want?
Holodomor?
Warsaw?
Their abuse of the warsaw pact
Afghanistan
Chechnia (fsb staged attack)
And now Ukraine. “Denazifying”

They also support extremist and nationalistic forces in our society. That their manipulations were less effective at times is not for not trying.


there was evidence for poisoning.
Kuzmin wanted their “own” bloodtest (with risk of manipulation).
Not something to object and lose your job over.



I know, just adding “zionist puppet” like you do on opposing claims.

Most thought this war would be done it 3 days. Now were 30.000 dead russians and counting.

Sure. Nazis nazis everywhere. Lets flatten cities!
Your just parroting russian propaganda. Extreme right is a small % of the many tens of thousands resisting russia right now.


For sovereign ukraine to have ties to EU? Yeah catastrophy.

So you are in favour of more Saddams? Assads? Gaddafis?

Yeah the entire eastern block just looved their system…

Can you show me written promise?
Unlike russias written promise after the nuke deal with ukraine.

Russias colonial empire falling apart…what disaster…

Moving goalspost. Both parties have multiple breaches on their name. And most of the deaths are due to seperatists.

How much more of europe does russia have to occupy? Even at its height it was still meddling and destabilizing the few western european countries it did not control.

Yes. Mariopol is worse then fallujah. Likely more civilian deathstoo.
Compare afghanistan…

Why do you argue with him? Its senseless. Ignore them.

 

[MeFishToo]

Putin protect Donbas children the same way America invaded Serbia to protect Kosovo children. Invasion is justified. Bullies will only stop if they are bunched in the teeth.

Repeating a lie doesnt make it truth. Russia instigated and supported the unrest in eastern Ukraine. The whole world knows it.

 

[MeFishToo]

Wrong. Donbas revolution = modern American revolution. Donbas don't belong in Ukraine just like America don't belong in Britain.

I couldnt care less. Russian propaganda is wasted on me.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

I couldnt care less. Russian propaganda is wasted on me.

Why don't you Danes send all your artillery to Donbas to get smashed?

 

[F-22Raptor]

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[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

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[Tornado23]

Read this tweet it’s FUBAR:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1534820098975977472

Torture....knock knock its the Hague