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I honestly think US could destroy russia in a conventional war without russia even being able to launch nukes against America. We are at the point or reaching the point where this is possible. Why else is russia investing so much in these new super-weapons that can deliver a missile in 8 seconds to London. etc. They must know their nuclear deterrence is compromised. They probably knew that in the 1980's when Reagan started talking about Star Wars program. And they just gave up the arms race and any serious competition against America.

Russia fears US cruise missile capability. The US launched 500 on the first day of the 2nd Gulf War. The US could destroy a large portion of Russias nuclear infrastructure.
 
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Btw Russia is no power. Economy weaker than spain and a weak military.

Dude? Russia is one of the most powerful countries in the world.

Russia looks weak due to the kind of effects produced by US/NATO on its economy (through sanctions) and on its military campaign in Ukraine (through assistance to Ukraine).

Russia miscalculated its options in Ukraine on following counts:

1. They though that Zelenskyy administration does not have legitimacy and Ukranians will welcome Russians.

2. They were not expecting US/NATO to intervene on behalf of Ukraine. This was in part due to US/NATO accomodating Russian mission in Syria.

RAND also have a hand in stoking Russian ego in its war-gaming session for Baltics. US/NATO are known to exaggerate military prowess of the war-gamed enemy to build their own capabilities. They strive to be two-steps ahead of others with this approach. I have had debates with both Iranians and Chinese members on these lines and cautioned all of them.

Another lesson is that modern warfare is increasingly complex, HYBRID and expensive to fight for an average country. Try at your own risk.
 
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Dude? Russia is one of the most powerful countries in the world.

Russia looks weak due to the kind of effects produced by US/NATO on its economy (through sanctions) and on its military campaign in Ukraine (through assistance to Ukraine).

Russia miscalculated its options in Ukraine on following counts:

1. They though that Zelenskyy administration does not have legitimacy and Ukranians will welcome Russians.

2. They were not expecting US/NATO to intervene on behalf of Ukraine. This was in part due to US/NATO accomodating Russian mission in Syria.

RAND also have a hand in stoking Russian ego in its war-gaming session for Baltics. US/NATO are known to exaggerate military prowess of the war-gamed enemy to build their own capabilities. They strive to be two-steps ahead of others with this approach. I have had debates with both Iranians and Chinese members on these lines and cautioned all of them.

Another lesson is that modern warfare is increasingly complex, HYBRID and expensive to fight for an average country. Try at your own risk.

Agree. I consider Russia, China, America to be the 3 powers of the world.
 
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You are paranoid. USSR never annexed eastern Europe. It is soft power only, just like the US, no official annexation but only soft power. You watch too much Hollywood.

Are you crazy? USSR occupied entire eastern europe including eastern Germany. There was 40 years terror reighn. Iron curtain. USSR army murdered thousands in eastern europe. Prague uprising. Uprising in Berlin ect.


Its important to crush russia so much that it never again poses a threat
 
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Are you crazy? USSR occupied entire eastern europe including eastern Germany. There was 40 years terror reighn. Iron curtain. USSR army murdered thousands in eastern europe. Prague uprising. Uprising in Berlin ect.


Its important to crush russia so much that it never again poses a threat

West Germany was occupied by Americans and still is. Germans should grow a pair and kick Americans out.
 
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You forgot the most logical "what if".


What if Russia gets rid of its incompetent criminal mafia regime, gives up its tyrannical imperialist thuggish behavior towards its neighbors and becomes a democracy. Values human life and starts to act like a responsible nations towards its own people and towards its neighbors?

Yes, a person supporting NATO is the one to lecture others about being responsible, democratic and respectful of human life. :rolleyes:

BTW if you don't like Putin you get the alternative - the Communists who are the second-largest party in Russia. :enjoy:
 
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You see the rate of losses Russia is incurring now, and the US Congress still hasn’t approved the $33B package for Ukraine, half of which will supply the Ukrainian military. That will last Ukraine at least 5 months. :lol:
 
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