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If Kosovo had the right to secede from Yugoslavia then Crimea had the right to secede from the former Ukraine.
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If Kosovo had the right to secede from Yugoslavia then Crimea had the right to secede from the former Ukraine.
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You have not answered your Double Standards
If it is so, when then Chechnya didn't get the liberation from Russia and why then Putin attacked them and killed thousands of Chechnyan people?
Exactly, it wasn't just about joining NATO which Ukraine has been trying to many years. You look at what excuses Putin has been trying to do recently to justify invading Ukraine.
1. Being NATO at Russia's borders even though there are other NATO countries that borders Russia.
2. Protecting DNR/LNR backed by Russia
3. Recognize them as countries and claim they were under attack by Ukraine and invade few days later.
4. Claim Ukraine has biological weapons.
5. Claim Ukraine has nuclear weapons.
6. Claim to protecting Russian speaking people from Kharkiv to Odessa and other cities, not sure how far Putin was going, probably all the way to western Ukraine (ironically many Ukrainian soldiers can speak Russian so they can easily interrogate the Russian prisoners).
7. Ukrainian government are NAZIs as well as the military.
8. Ukraine has a military, enough to justify invasion since they want it demilitarize.
So many excuses, even if Ukraine was neutral, that's still enough to justify getting invaded since that's not the same as being Pro-Russian.
On Izyum pocket.
Twitters are saying Ukrainian side has already crossed the Oskil from the East, and Ukrainian troops are pouring into hills north of Izyum, cutting off Russian force in Izyum
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They reached Svatovoye near the dusk. A single Russian platoon in town fled/surrendered.
It's a very risky move if Russian airforce will start venturing past their defensive lines.
It's well past Ukrainian SAM picket.
My guess they want to reach Kupyansk, and hold there.
Twitters are saying Ukrainian side has already crossed the Oskil from the East, and Ukrainian troops are pouring into hills north of Izyum, cutting off Russian force in Izyum
Edit:
They reached Svatovoye near the dusk. A single Russian platoon in town fled/surrendered.
It's a very risky move if Russian airforce will start venturing past their defensive lines.
It's well past Ukrainian SAM picket.
My guess they want to reach Kupyansk, and hold there.
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That steel plant is 15 km long according to some sources..
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Ukrainian President Zelensky orders the promotion of five military ranks for Commander Oleksiy Zyashaba, to Vice Admiral of the Ukrainian Navy, for his success in leading the operation to destroy the Russian cruiser Moskva in the Black Sea.
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It looks like a Neptune missile has hit directly where the last row of Sandbox/Vulcan missiles are, which must have caused at least one but probably more of them to detonate. The reoports that the Moskva immediately listed appear to be accurate.
The design of the Slava class has an obvious flaw which is very much apparent after the sinking of the Moskva. Those Sandbox/Vulcan missles must extend for at least half the length of the ship, giving any successful incoming missile a 50-50 chance of hitting one ofthem.
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The bulk of Ukraine's mineral wealth is in Luhansk, which is controlled by Russia and is considered a separatist, and in general the Donbass .. and the rest is in Lviv, where there are Polish ambitions..
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