Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments

[Wood]

wow really insightful reporting

Some evidence of war crime there as well

 

[F-22Raptor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1507109806653550607

 

[Cthulhu]

Euromaidan in 2014 was about the European Union and having a better quality of life. Nothing to do with US, NATO whatever. If you would be Polish you would understand this.

This is the real source of Euromaidan crisis:

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Well after Euromaidan the Ukrainian government started implementing hostile policies towards their Russian-speaking population, A sequence of choices that led them to where they are now.

Ukrainization in modern Ukraine[edit]​

Main article: Ukrainization
See also: Russian book ban in Ukraine
Since the Euromaidan of 2013-2014, the Ukrainian government has issued several laws aimed at encouraging Ukrainization in the media, in education and in other spheres.

In February 2017, the Ukrainian government banned the commercial importation of books from Russia, which had accounted for up to 60% of all titles sold in Ukraine.[17]

On May 23, 2017, the Ukrainian parliament approved the law that most broadcast content should be in Ukrainian (75% of national carriers and 50% of local carriers).

The 2017 law on education provides that Ukrainian language is the language of education at all levels except for one or more subjects that are allowed to be taught in two or more languages, namely English or one of the other official languages of the European Union (i.e. excluding Russian).[18] The law does state that persons belonging to the indigenous peoples of Ukraine are guaranteed the right to study at public pre-school institutes and primary schools in "the language of instruction of the respective indigenous people, along with the state language of instruction" in separate classes or groups.[18] The Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE) has expressed concern with this measure and with the lack of "real consultation" with the representatives of national minorities.[19] In July 2018, The Mykolaiv Okrug Administrative Court liquidated the status of Russian as a regional language, on the suit (bringing to the norms of the national legislation due to the recognition of the law "On the principles of the state language policy" by the Constitutional Court of Ukraine as unconstitutional) of the First Deputy Prosecutor of the Mykolaiv Oblast.[20] In October and December 2018, parliaments of the city of Kherson and of Kharkiv Oblast also abolished the status of the Russian language as a regional one.[21]

In January 2022, a law requiring all print media to be published in Ukrainian came into force. It did not ban publication in Russian, however it stipulated that a Ukrainian version of equivalent circulation and scope must be published - which is not a profitable option for publishers. Critics argue that the law could disenfranchise the country's Russian-speakers.[22]

Russian language in Ukraine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[dBSPL]

Me think Erdogan knows that this is only a snapshot of the situation and can change fast.

Could be, Erdogan's NATO summit press conference statements mostly about the immediate lifting of all overt and covert embargo activities against Turkey.

 

[F-22Raptor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1507111162629931013

 

[oberschlesier]

I'm not saying they should have invaded,but the US and Britain did everything they could as to NOT find a peaceful solution on this. I don't recall Russia,China and others imposing heavy sanctions on USA in 1999,2003 and 2011.

Why US or Britain ? Should everybody just accept, that Ukraine is russian satellite ? What Russia did to solve this problem peacefully and build trust ? Annexed Crimeria ?

Yes, why did they not impose sanctions on the US in 1999,2003 and 2011? Maybe because they agreed with those actions ?

Wasn't invading Iraq in 2003 a ridiculous reason? Wasn't bombing Yugoslavia in 1999 for "humanitarian reasons" just fake?

When Turkey invaded Cyprus,why wasn't there a big reaction by all the other NATO members? Yes,it was the Cold War. But why didn't they put sanctions on Turkey about that after the Cold War?

Double standards. That's what annoys me. Their lies and their hypocrisy.

And speaking of Kosovo...does this remind you of something?



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In yugoslavia 1999 you had a internal conflict between two nationalities in one country and NATO inteviene to solve it. Was this good ? For Albanias yes, not really for Serbia.

 

[PakFactor]

Could be, Erdogan's NATO summit press conference statements mostly about the immediate lifting of all overt and covert embargo activities against Turkey.

He's not going to get anywhere with that, sometimes it doesn't pay to act like a big kid in the gang.

 

[dBSPL]

He's not going to get anywhere with that, sometimes it doesn't pay to act like a big kid in the gang.

Let's see. I think we are on the eve of very important events.

 

[oberschlesier]

Well after Euromaidan the Ukrainian government started implementing hostile policies towards their Russian-speaking population, A sequence of choices that led them to where they are now.

Ukrainization in modern Ukraine[edit]​

Main article: Ukrainization
See also: Russian book ban in Ukraine
Since the Euromaidan of 2013-2014, the Ukrainian government has issued several laws aimed at encouraging Ukrainization in the media, in education and in other spheres.

In February 2017, the Ukrainian government banned the commercial importation of books from Russia, which had accounted for up to 60% of all titles sold in Ukraine.[17]

On May 23, 2017, the Ukrainian parliament approved the law that most broadcast content should be in Ukrainian (75% of national carriers and 50% of local carriers).

The 2017 law on education provides that Ukrainian language is the language of education at all levels except for one or more subjects that are allowed to be taught in two or more languages, namely English or one of the other official languages of the European Union (i.e. excluding Russian).[18] The law does state that persons belonging to the indigenous peoples of Ukraine are guaranteed the right to study at public pre-school institutes and primary schools in "the language of instruction of the respective indigenous people, along with the state language of instruction" in separate classes or groups.[18] The Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE) has expressed concern with this measure and with the lack of "real consultation" with the representatives of national minorities.[19] In July 2018, The Mykolaiv Okrug Administrative Court liquidated the status of Russian as a regional language, on the suit (bringing to the norms of the national legislation due to the recognition of the law "On the principles of the state language policy" by the Constitutional Court of Ukraine as unconstitutional) of the First Deputy Prosecutor of the Mykolaiv Oblast.[20] In October and December 2018, parliaments of the city of Kherson and of Kharkiv Oblast also abolished the status of the Russian language as a regional one.[21]

In January 2022, a law requiring all print media to be published in Ukrainian came into force. It did not ban publication in Russian, however it stipulated that a Ukrainian version of equivalent circulation and scope must be published - which is not a profitable option for publishers. Critics argue that the law could disenfranchise the country's Russian-speakers.[22]

Russian language in Ukraine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

After the annexation of Crimeria, what were you excpeting ? The country name is Ukraine, why should they not promote Ukranian? Nobody is banning anybody from speaking Russian, which anyway is very similar. Is this a good reason to bomb the Russian speaking eastern Ukraine ?

 

[Foinikas]

Why US or Britain ? Should everybody just accept, that Ukraine is russian satellite ? What Russia did to solve this problem peacefully and build trust ? Annexed Crimeria ?

They should both agree that Ukraine should be neutral. Crimea was annexed in 2014. The Western countries supported and maybe even funded the 2014 riots.

Remember,before the invasion France wanted to mediate between Russia and NATO and Germany didn't want to go to sanctions at all. The ones who kept sending forces to NATO countries next to Ukraine and insisted on sanctions were USA and Britain. Both far away and both out of the EU.

In yugoslavia 1999 you had a internal conflict between two nationalities in one country and NATO inteviene to solve it. What this good ? For Albanias yes, not really for Serbia.

And why should NATO intervene? Yugoslavia was not in NATO nor communist anymore. They had no right to intervene.

But it was Clinton,Albright and Biden who insisted on bombing Yugoslavia.

Look at this:

The people who did this,now dare to talk about "Russians brutally bombing Ukraine" and talking about "Dictator Putin innocent civilians".

 

[Hydration]

He's not going to get anywhere with that, sometimes it doesn't pay to act like a big kid in the gang.

i dont get what the israeli PM is trying to accomplish here i dont think he has a very good relationship with russia to meditate in between same with qatar

They should both agree that Ukraine should be neutral. Crimea was annexed in 2014. The Western countries supported and maybe even funded the 2014 riots.

Remember,before the invasion France wanted to mediate between Russia and NATO and Germany didn't want to go to sanctions at all. The ones who kept sending forces to NATO countries next to Ukraine and insisted on sanctions were USA and Britain. Both far away and both out of the EU.


And why should NATO intervene? Yugoslavia was not in NATO nor communist anymore. They had no right to intervene.

But it was Clinton and Albright who insisted on bombing Yugoslavia.

Look at this:

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The people who did this,now dare to talk about "Russians brutally bombing Ukraine" and talking about "Dictator Putin innocent civilians".

i dont get why americans vote for democrats every single president of theres made a huge global catastrophe atleast once lol

 

[dBSPL]

There are two options for Crimea, the return of the Crimean people, who are not allowed to return right now, and Russia respecting the principle of the immutability of Ukraine's borders.

The second possibility is the using of the right to self-determination to include all Crimeans and under international supervision.

It is not possible for Russia's annexation decision to be recognized in terms of international law.

 

[Cthulhu]

After the annexation of Crimeria, what were you excpeting ? The country name is Ukraine, why should they not promote Ukranian? Nobody is banning anybody from speaking Russian, which anyway is very similar. Is this a good reason to bomb the Russian speaking eastern Ukraine ?

LOL, So after the Russia annexed the Crimea, The Ukrainians turned and started taking retaliatory action against their own Russian-speaking population! What kind of logic is that?! Now thanks to that way of operating they are losing the Luhansk and Donetsk too.

 

[The SC]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1507086781954633728

 

[oberschlesier]

They should both agree that Ukraine should be neutral. Crimea was annexed in 2014. The Western countries supported and maybe even funded the 2014 riots.

Remember,before the invasion France wanted to mediate between Russia and NATO and Germany didn't want to go to sanctions at all. The ones who kept sending forces to NATO countries next to Ukraine and insisted on sanctions were USA and Britain. Both far away and both out of the EU.

US and Britain are sending forces to NATO countries next to Ukraine, because all those countries are requesting it. It`s polish strategic goal to have a pernament US base. NOBODY is trusting Russia here. The policy of France and Germany was wrong, if they want to have an successful EU, they have to as well take the resposibility for the security of the eastern flank. I think Germany is slowly understanding this.

I won`t talk about Yugoslavia, I don`t have enough knowledge here, maybe you are right.