Russia to partner in AMCA Technologies

[he-man]

@he-man It's not shit although presently it's In its prototype stage
If you want more knowledge about it @amardeep mishra can guide you

100 km range of its is against 2m2 target which standard rate DRDO set For it's radar it GAN Based AESA

In aero 2015 KRET institute offered assistance for uttam

Amardeep mishra has same source like me namely

http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rc...HDiwdHDs87aQqGErSOUXFmQ&bvm=bv.87611401,d.dGc

In other words shyte...............

In aero 2015 KRET institute offered assistance for uttam

Without assistance there will be no uttam aesa.

Since when did the newly started program attained top performance of 250km ?Cut the BS Mr.
That AESA would mature enough for Mk 2

U need some education on performance of modern aesas..........do it and then come with a reply.

 

[IND151]

We seek the help of people who know more than us. Israel has no experience with developing 5th gen technologies, or thrust vectoring. Russia does.

Agreed, however they can help us with avionics................

Amardeep mishra has same source like me namely

http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=11&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0CGIQFjAK&url=http://www.drdo.gov.in/drdo/drdojsp/downloadtndr.jsp?tenderName=6881&McrId=LRDE*Electronics%20&%20Radar%20Development%20Establishment&p=lrde_AirborneLiquidCirculationSystem_Specs_20.pdf&ei=KR4AVb2jOc_d8AW4oIDYCw&usg=AFQjCNHFGilHDiwdHDs87aQqGErSOUXFmQ&bvm=bv.87611401,d.dGc

In other words shyte...............



Without assistance there will be no uttam aesa.



U need some education on performance of modern aesas..........do it and then come with a reply.

You mean without assistance the project can not be completed or the AESA without assistance will not be Uttam?

 

[he-man]

You mean without assistance the project can not be completed or the AESA without assistance will not be Uttam?

Both,if u decipher the actual meaning of the word uttam

 

[IND151]

AMCA should be able to carry at least 2 RVV SD missiles in its IWBs and 4 short range missiles on wings.

 

[SrNair]

Amardeep mishra has same source like me namely

http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rc...HDiwdHDs87aQqGErSOUXFmQ&bvm=bv.87611401,d.dGc

In other words shyte...............



Without assistance there will be no uttam aesa.



U need some education on performance of modern aesas..........do it and then come with a reply.

You dont need to teach about electronics equipment.
This R &D project.Prototype wont have enough rrequiring peeformance when we begin a high tech R &D project like this.Otherwise LCA would have been fly at supersonic at its first flight.But it wont.
Equipments will be mature enough only after regular reasearch and prototype making.Stupid.

 

[he-man]

You dont need to teach about electronics equipment.
This R &D project.Prototype wont have enough rrequiring peeformance when we begin a high tech R &D project like this.Otherwise LCA would have been fly at supersonic at its first flight.But it wont.
Equipments will be mature enough only after regular reasearch and prototype making.Stupid.

Yeah right.

We failed to make even a simple pulse doppler slotted array(for fighters) and i am being stupid in being critical about the chances that uttam aesa will see the light of the day??

Great going,good luck with ur delusions on shining india.
Unfortunately i go by the track record.

 

[SpArK]

It wont be the Engine for sure.

 

[he-man]

AMCA should be able to carry at least 2 RVV SD missiles in its IWBs and 4 short range missiles on wings.

If government is sane it should scrap either rafale deal or amca.
We cannot adequately fund both the projects together and cancellation of pakfa is simply not possible.

We should instead use that money to demonstrate a state of the art

1)Aesa(Both GaA now and GaN in future
2)Irst based on qwip tech or a successor and better tech
3)Good quality aesa jammers
4)A functional radome(lol,remember tejas)
5)Another attempt for a domestic engine

If we can make this stuff by even 2025 (sans of course engine which will require more time)it will serve the purpose and we can move ahead with amca,,,if not then restrict urself to lca mk2

It wont be the Engine for sure.

Yup,russians have nothing good in engine department apart from a possible newer turbofan for pakfa by 2020.Rest is all al-31 derivatives,essentially a 1980's tech with some additions here and there.

 

[sancho]

Me

Just as I said, the same wingtip pods, but which doesn't mean they have the same internals!

He is actually right we make more than 50% of LCA at home

Which however doesn't mean that all that is of Indian origin. Most of the radar is Israeli, the engine is US, the navigation system French, the refuelling probe will be British even if they are produced or assembled in India. So the ammount figures are always questionable and the government is actually fuelling this confusion with their statements.

It wont be the Engine for sure.

Nor AESA, avionics or EW since these parts are meant to be indigenous. All they can offer is TVC tech, stealth design and material know how or weapon technology.

 

[Echo_419]

Just as I said, the same wingtip pods, but which doesn't mean they have the same internals!



Which however doesn't mean that all that is of Indian origin. Most of the radar is Israeli, the engine is US, the navigation system French, the refuelling probe will be British even if they are produced or assembled in India. So the ammount figures are always questionable and the government is actually fuelling this confusion with their statements.



Nor AESA, avionics or EW since these parts are meant to be indigenous. All they can offer is TVC tech, stealth design and material know how or weapon technology.

You are right that's debatable

 

[he-man]

Nor AESA, avionics

Both aesa and irst at least will be russian.
Thats for sure.

 

[sancho]

Both aesa and irst at least will be russian.
Thats for sure.

Nonsense, AMCA is supposed to a version of the AESA DRDO is developing for LCA MK2.

 

[he-man]

Nonsense, AMCA is supposed to a version of the AESA DRDO is developing for LCA MK2.

Oh,i was quoting mki upgrade

 

[Tshering22]

The article doesn't say that, but that we have asked the Russians for joint tech developments, like TVC. That's actually would be a refreshing new attempt to deal with our shortfalls, but highly unlikely that we can fit a Russian TVC system on a US engine right? And with DRDO's habit to ignore the Russians, IRDW might be making things up.

We badly need our own engines.

Having a US engine on a stealth fighter is certainly not safe. If some crazy-@$$ prez comes to power tomorrow and sanctions us for some stupid reason, we will have to ground one of our frontline aerial defences along with other things (considering that DRDO and HAL are miserable at copying engines or anything related to aerospace for that matter).

 

[sancho]

We badly need our own engines.

Or at least custom varients of foreign engines, which is why I prefered the way Sweden had gone for the Gripen with the RM12. We still focus far too much on the idea, that every nut an bolt need to be India, while that simply is not possible with our current level of technical and industrial capability. That's why a indigenized foreign engine that fulfills all the performance requirements we need, with a high ammount of indigenous parts, is better than an indigenous engine, that is below the needs.
I still hope that we go for a indigenized Type 30 engine for FGFA, just as we should keep trying to make Kaveri capable enough to be fitted to the Mig 29Ks, since an indigenized Mig 29K with Kaveri engine, is far more worth than for the industry and the navy, than a limited platform like N-LCA with a US engine.