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Russia Slams The QUAD; Puts India In The Firing Line As Moscow Inches Closer To China

But the actual and only fact is that RSS was never involve in any bomb last or killing. The same reason, it will was/never get ban.
you are delusional or just habitual liar.
what history you are reading??? RSS version or real one? dont behave like an idiot. defend your country etc, but outright lies and dumb statements are just proving why India is known as Fake news factory and other titles.
 
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and this is what i told you, its India's turn....Replace Russia with China, and Pakistan with India, and Al Qaida ( Osama Bin Laden) with RSS/BJP Mohan Bhagwat, Modi etc.

History repeats itself, read and understand.

Modi's Loan application is approved by China, he really had to beg ..

your condition has not changed even a bit .you were given money for getting jobs done by america , saudi . now it is china which is using you .
we constituted bank with china now taking money from it . not begging for handouts to pay loans .
 
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your condition has not changed even a bit .you were given money for getting jobs done by america , saudi . now it is china which is using you .
we constituted bank with china now taking money from it . not begging for handouts to pay loans .


you are describing India, see the facts which country receives the most aid.

LAC China killing indian soldiers and Modi begging china for loan...
 
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The biggest nightmare for Pakistan would be a possible resolution of India China boarder issue.. Normal relationship between India and China will mean that utility of Pakistan for china will be negative as a big time liability..

Pakistan also has two options-
Become economically very strong to be an equivalent partner to China - very difficult given current and foreseeable future

Or just hope that relationship between India and China never improves, hence keeping their nuisance value against India... More probable option...

The statement may sound blunt but that is the reality of the current status of all the parties
 
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The biggest nightmare for Pakistan would be a possible resolution of India China boarder issue.. Normal relationship between India and China will mean that utility of Pakistan for china will be negative as a big time liability..

Pakistan also has two options-
Become economically very strong to be an equivalent partner to China - very difficult given current and foreseeable future

Or just hope that relationship between India and China never improves, hence keeping their nuisance value against India... More probable option...

The statement may sound blunt but that is the reality of the current status of all the parties
More probable is Pakistan's economy improving. That is legit common sense. Pakistan's exports have doubled, everything's going up under Imran.
India has alligned itself and is the dog of the West. Have fun, even if you somehow manage to defeat China, and the US remains at top, after done with China, the West will be against India as it would be improving.
Its common sense that the West will never approve of the fact that the biggest economy is from the East, be it China, India or some Arab country.
 
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More probable is Pakistan's economy improving. That is legit common sense. Pakistan's exports have doubled, everything's going up under Imran.
India has alligned itself and is the dog of the West. Have fun, even if you somehow manage to defeat China, and the US remains at top, after done with China, the West will be against India as it would be improving.
Its common sense that the West will never approve of the fact that the biggest economy is from the East, be it China, India or some Arab country.
I see China putting extra efforts to come forward for a solution to the boarder issue... They are emerging as a great power and heading towards a face-off with the current Super power.. what they need is absolute focus on their prime opponent- USA. A second front on other side will be the last thing they would need and a resolution is a must.. they can either completely defeat India- very unlikely. An undecided military conflict will make a permanent enemy at their flank in India... Or they try to resolve the issue, creating a big problem for Pakistan
 
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I see China putting extra efforts to come forward for a solution to the boarder issue... They are emerging as a great power and heading towards a face-off with the current Super power.. what they need is absolute focus on their prime opponent- USA. A second front on other side will be the last thing they would need and a resolution is a must.. they can either completely defeat India- very unlikely. An undecided military conflict will make a permanent enemy at their flank in India... Or they try to resolve the issue, creating a big problem for Pakistan
You are totally confused here mate. While the West and the Americans recover from the pandemic which would at least take 5 years, and that is even an optimistic figure, China get get done with India easily and then shift its attention towards the US eastwards.
 
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OHH Man! now you are telling that everyone is supporting to RSS.

In India, there is left wings (Communist Party , congress etc) and right wings (RSS, BJP etc). Now, right wings are in central and they are a nationalist party.

USA was against us during the cold war and now is a strategic partner. In the future, we are not sure!

But the actual and only fact is that RSS was never involve in any bomb last . The same reason, it will be never get ban.

Riots happen in India, because india is a big secular country and few leaders from both wings, caused some problems because of their dirty politics.
How is India secular when you people believe in raping your dead relatives as reincarnated cows
 
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More probable is Pakistan's economy improving. That is legit common sense. Pakistan's exports have doubled, everything's going up under Imran.
India has alligned itself and is the dog of the West. Have fun, even if you somehow manage to defeat China, and the US remains at top, after done with China, the West will be against India as it would be improving.
Its common sense that the West will never approve of the fact that the biggest economy is from the East, be it China, India or some Arab country.

Depends- totally depends!

Pakistan was having advantage during the cold war and they had taken the advantages during the most of it by doing many mistakes.

Don't expect same mistakes from India.
How is India secular when you people believe in raping your dead relatives as reincarnated cows

if i post such news as well then would be add anything to the thread?
 
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They knew. :D

But Indians decided still they be able to thrash China with no problems at all .:D

The only way to teach fools will be to let fools do it their way.:enjoy:

And we get to see lots and lots of flying Indians to enjoy with our popcorn and chips and dips and 6 packs or Wulung tea

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Bro I am not sure are you a real Chinese PDF user or not!

But one thing that I have learnt over the time (I love it!) when you guys (i.e., Chinese) grill Indians on any forum PDF, Twitter, Quora, etc., you guys don't show any mercy :P

Your post is a burner ........................ lmao :)
 
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You are totally confused here mate. While the West and the Americans recover from the pandemic which would at least take 5 years, and that is even an optimistic figure, China get get done with India easily and then shift its attention towards the US eastwards.
You are consuming too much PRC propaganda it seems... Chine is nowhere as strong as many here thinks they are. They would have already marched towards India, if they are even partially sure of a victory against India..

Let them first grow some balls to takeover the tiny island of Taiwan to demonstrate that they are ready to fight a much larger force who can hit them back ..
 
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The biggest nightmare for Pakistan would be a possible resolution of India China boarder issue.. Normal relationship between India and China will mean that utility of Pakistan for china will be negative as a big time liability..

Pakistan also has two options-
Become economically very strong to be an equivalent partner to China - very difficult given current and foreseeable future

Or just hope that relationship between India and China never improves, hence keeping their nuisance value against India... More probable option...

The statement may sound blunt but that is the reality of the current status of all the parties

that is perfectly on the spot .
 
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Russia Slams The QUAD; Puts India In The Firing Line As Moscow Inches Closer To China

Russia’s attempts to defuse tensions between India and China, who have been standing eye to eye at the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in Ladakh for almost six months now, have not been really successful


Published
14 hours ago on December 11, 2020
By Smriti Chaudhary
https://eurasiantimes.com/russia-sl...iring-line-as-moscow-inches-closer-to-china/#
Just when India thought that it was successfully balancing its ties with the US and Russia — two arch-rivals — the Russian foreign minister has accused “the West” led by the US of using India as an “object” in its “Anti-China games”.


India-China Dispute
India and China have been standing eye to eye at the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in Ladakh for almost six months now. Tensions have been escalating after the troops from both sides got into a brutal clash in June that resulted in 20 Indian casualties and an unconfirmed number on the other side.

The disengagement process has been underway with both sides engaging in military-level talks, however, there is not much that has improved since it started.

Speaking at the general meeting of the state-run think tank Russian International Affairs Council on Tuesday, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov displayed his contempt for the Quadrilateral or the Quad – an informal strategic forum between the United States, Japan, Australia, and India. Beijing sees this as an anti-China group to deter its strategic missions.

“India is currently an object of the Western countries’ persistent, aggressive and devious policy as they are trying to engage it in anti-China games by promoting Indo-Pacific strategies, the so-called ‘Quad’, while at the same time the West is attempting to undermine our close partnership and privileged relations with India,” Lavrov said.


New Delhi extended an invitation to Canberra to join the Malabar Naval exercise 2020 that was recently concluded. The drills were held in the Indian Ocean in order to understand the level of training of each others’ navies during this exercise.
“This is the goal of the US’ very tough pressure on New Delhi in the military and technical cooperation,” he added. While Lavrov didn’t expand on this, he was possibly pointing at Washington’s threats of imposing sanctions under the Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA) for buying S-400 missile system from Russia.

The US House of Representatives has already passed the bill on Tuesday to put sanctions on Turkey for the acquisition of S-400 missile system from Russia. While the bill is yet to go through Senate, it requires “each person that knowingly engaged in the acquisition of the S-400 air defense system” an imposition of sanction with 30 days of passing the legislation.

Lavrov stressed that “the West” is trying to restore the unipolar model of world order but Russia and China are unlikely to “subordinate” under the pressure. He further added that US-led West has been “rejecting the objective trends towards the formation of a multipolar world”. It has “postponed Russia and China for later and is trying to draw all others into a unipolar world by any means possible. For our part, we will promote a unifying agenda.”

He stated that the G20 is the only mechanism outside the UN Security Council where it is still possible to come to terms based on a balance of interests. It is because G20 represents the G7 and the Brazil-Russia-India-China-South Africa (BRICS) nations along with Saudi Arabia, Mexico, Argentina, Indonesia, and Egypt. “The G20 is a venue where there is still hope for promoting more balanced approaches that can then be used in formal international legal structures.”

There was no immediate response from any of the Quad nations including, India on the Russian Foreign Minister’s comments.
Russia’s Attempt At Resolving India-China Tensions
Russia has been trying to nudge India to resolve its border standoff with China. While Moscow denied mediating between India and China over the ongoing border conflict, it laid the groundwork for Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) meeting in Moscow which was attended by Indian Foreign Minister S Jaishankar along with his Chinese counterpart Wang Yi on September 10.

This was the first bilateral meet between the two ministers since the standoff that started in June.

During the meeting, the two sides held a “frank and constructive” discussion on the developments in the India-China border areas as well as on India-China relations, said the India-China joint press release.

Moscow has maintained close strategic ties with both China and India. Russia is India’s biggest supplier of arms. A new Stimson Center working paper by Sameer Lalwani and others revealed the heavy dependence of Indian defense equipment currently in service.

With a whopping 90% for the Army, 41% for the Navy, and two-thirds of the Indian Air Force’s (IAF) equipment is of Russian origin.
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Foreign Minister of India S. Jaishankar With His Russian Counterpart Sergey Lavrov

According to data compiled by Stockholm-based thinktank, SIPRI, since 2014 when the Bharatiya Janta Party (BJP) came to power, India’s prime supplier for military equipment has been Russia with US$9.3 billion worth of exports to India. The US is trailing behind with only US$2.3 billion worth of export in the same period.

On the other hand, Russian President Vladamir Putin has pointed towards a possible military alliance between Russia and China. “It is possible to imagine anything.… We have not set that goal for ourselves. But, in principle, we are not going to rule it out, either,” Putin said during a video conference.



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India-China standoff: Russia gives new twist to border tension - Read details here
Russia has claimed that Western powers have adopted an “aggressive and devious” policy to engage India “in anti-China games".
India-China standoff: Russia gives new twist to border tension - Read details here

Tanweer Azam
Updated:
Dec 10, 2020, 10:14 AM IST

Highlights
  1. Russia has claimed that Western powers have adopted an “aggressive and devious” policy to engage India “in anti-China games".
  2. Lavrov made the comment at a time when India and China are engaged in a tense standoff at the LAC.
  3. Lavrov also claimed that Western powers are trying to undermine Russia’s “close partnership and privileged relations with India”.
In a surprising development, Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov has claimed that Western powers have adopted an “aggressive and devious” policy to engage India “in anti-China games by promoting Indo-Pacific strategies”. Lavrov made the comment at a time when India and China are engaged in a tense standoff at the Line of Actual Control in Ladakh for over six months.

Lavrov also claimed that Western powers are trying to undermine Russia’s “close partnership and privileged relations with Indi

"For instance, India is a matter of persistent, aggressive devious Western policy which tries to draw the country into anti-Chinese games, promoting so-called Indo-Pacific strategies," Lavrov said, adding, "and at the same time, (western policy tries to) weaken our close partnership, strategic, privileged relations with Indians. There is a very tough pressure undertaken by Americans on New Delhi, concerning (Indian) military technical cooperation (with Russia)."

The senior Russian leader made the statement during the general meeting of the state-run think tank Russian International Affairs Council on Tuesday. Lavrov's remarks are also significant as Moscow has been making efforts to resolve the simmering border tension between India and China.


Meanwhile, External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar on Wednesday (December 9) said that ties with China have 'significantly damaged' in 2020 due to the Galwan incident and the ongoing buildup which has 'completely changed national sentiment'.
Speaking at a virtual event, Jaishankar said, "We are today probably at the most difficult phase of our relationship with China. Certainly in the last 30-40 years. The last time there were military casualties on our borders was in 1975."

Earlier in June this year, India lost 20 of its soldiers to aggressive action by China's People's Liberation Army (PLA) at the Galwan valley.

Pakistan is getting isolated.
 
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Bro I am not sure are you a real Chinese PDF user or not!

But one thing that I have learnt over the time (I love it!) when you guys (i.e., Chinese) grill Indians on any forum PDF, Twitter, Quora, etc., you guys don't show any mercy :P

Your post is a burner ........................ lmao :)
:omghaha: :omghaha::omghaha:

I think I am the only guy here using a real name and that can be identified via Facebook and more.

:enjoy::enjoy::enjoy:

Go look at my postings on Chess and cats and more in Members Club:D:D:D

And you can decide if I am a real enough Chinese or not

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