Russia says 498 of its soldiers killed, 1,597 wounded in Ukraine - RIA

[Hamartia Antidote]

Russia says 498 of its soldiers killed, 1,597 wounded in Ukraine - RIA

Russia's defence ministry said on Wednesday that 498 Russian soldiers had died in Ukraine and another 1,597 had been wounded since the beginning of Moscow's military operation there, Russia's RIA news agency reported.

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MOSCOW, March 2 (Reuters) - Russia's defence ministry said on Wednesday that 498 Russian soldiers had died in Ukraine and another 1,597 had been wounded since the beginning of Moscow's military operation there, Russia's RIA news agency reported.

It was the first time that Moscow had put a figure on its casualties.

The ministry also said that more than 2,870 Ukrainian soldiers and "nationalists" had been killed and about 3,700 wounded, according to Interfax. The numbers could not be independently verified and there was no immediate comment from Ukraine.

 

[WinterFangs]

Both sides giving their own made up stats. However Its defo closer to the Russian statistics since in no way do I believe that Ukraine had killed almost 2000 soliders in just over a day as claimed by the Ukrainian MoD or whoever stated as such.

 

[UKBengali]

Even if it is 500 soldiers as per Russian claims, this is still a high number as if this war drags on for months then many thousands of Russian soldiers could end up dead.

Personally I think the real figure is somewhere in the middle of the Russian and Ukrainian numbers.

 

[MH.Yang]

Russia has air supremacy, and it is not caught in street fighting. Low casualties are normal.
Russia is repeating the tactics of the second Chechen War.

 

[UKBengali]

Russia has air supremacy, and it is not caught in street fighting. Low casualties are normal.
Russia is repeating the tactics of the second Chechen War.

Russia has air superiority and not air supremacy.

Ukrainian air force is still able to fly, albeit at limited numbers and they are even able to use drones to attack the Russian military vehicles.

Casualties may not be as high as the Ukrainian claims but they are definitely now "low".

Ukraine is a huge country and the defence is able to use hit and run tactics with anti-tank weapons supplied by the US/UK to good effect.

 

[lightning F57]

500 troops dead still feels allot for a week of war. Seems the Russians underestimated the resistance and expected less of a reaction from Europe too. With advance anti tank and airplane weapons going in death count will go up unless they can intercept the shipments.

I'm not a military person but this operation seems rushed and not well planned out.

 

[Han Patriot]

I think the Russian numbers sound more logical. Given the amount of fake news coming out and Russia alrwdy achieving air supremacy for the past few days.

 

[MH.Yang]

Russia has air superiority and not air supremacy.

Ukrainian air force is still able to fly, albeit at limited numbers and they are even able to use drones to attack the Russian military vehicles.

Casualties may not be as high as the Ukrainian claims but they are definitely now "low".

Ukraine is a huge country and the defence is able to use hit and run tactics with anti-tank weapons supplied by the US/UK to good effect.

The Russian motorcade outside Kyiv is 64 kilometers long. If anyone aircraft in Ukraine can take off, Russia's large motorcade dare not move and stay like this. These motorcade are intact, indicating that Ukraine has completely lost its air supremacy.

Everyone knows that Russia is ready to go south from Kyiv and North from Crimea to surround the main force of Ukrainian govt forces in eastern Ukraine.
Why do Ukrainian govt troops still not retreat, but hide in cities such as Kharkov and wait for death?
Because without air supremacy, they dare not retreat.

 

[Mirzali Khan]

500 troops dead still feels allot for a week of war. Seems the Russians underestimated the resistance and expected less of a reaction from Europe too. With advance anti tank and airplane weapons going in death count will go up unless they can intercept the shipments.

I'm not a military person but this operation seems rushed and not well planned out.

Yea it really came "out of nowhere".

I saw pics of people in Russia not being able to get public transport because they froze apple pay and stuff there.

I don't know how the oligarchs will fare with the sanctions.

The Russian motorcade outside kipu is 64 kilometers long. If anyone aircraft in Ukraine can take off, Russia's large motorcade dare not move and stay like this. These motorcade are intact, indicating that Ukraine has completely lost its air supremacy.

We have to see. What will be the endgame is what we all have to look at I guess.

 

[Indos]

500 troops dead still feels allot for a week of war. Seems the Russians underestimated the resistance and expected less of a reaction from Europe too. With advance anti tank and airplane weapons going in death count will go up unless they can intercept the shipments.

I'm not a military person but this operation seems rushed and not well planned out.

Cannot say it as rushed since US intelligence has known the invasion plan since middle of 2021

 

[Darius77]

As I posted with a breakdown of casualties. Russian numbers are totally credible. The Ukrainian twitter lies are absurd. In any case Russia will finish the job in 2-4 weeks, but the armchair generals will keep the twiiter war going for another decade.

 

[dBSPL]

So, according to Russia's claim, 2000 soldiers were lost, 500 of them dead. I wonder if these include captured or disappeared soldiers? And hundreds of vehicles were lost. There is a much bigger difference when compared to the Ukrainian claim, but even if we refer to the Russian claim, there is a problem.

This is definitely not a sustainable method of warfare.

On the other hand, when I look at the lost vehicles, most of them are old systems from the Soviet period. Among the captive soldiers, the general profile is not professional soldiers. This obviously raises the question of whether the troops in the first wave were of great importance to the Russian operational plan.

One of the biggest misconceptions of people about this operation is that tendency to think Russia attacked simultaneously with a force of 200,000 men. This is not possible. There is a rotation. And we haven't seen Russia's heavy blow yet. However, it is certain that there are some problems in the planning of the first week of the operation.

ps: whether this operation have solid long-term strategy, is another story. According to some leaked information from Russia, the aim was the fall of Kiev in a few days by a lightning operation from the Belarusian side. However, this goal was not achieved. Now, the process is slowly moving towards asymmetric warfare conditions, similar to the one in Syria.

 

[Oldman1]

I think the Russian numbers sound more logical. Given the amount of fake news coming out and Russia alrwdy achieving air supremacy for the past few days.

Sound more logical? Air supremacy isn't protecting them from attacks on convoys. And you notice they haven't include MIA and POWs.

 

[dBSPL]

Sound more logical? Air supremacy isn't protecting them from attacks on convoys. And you notice they haven't include MIA and POWs.

The fact that convoys can still be hit shows that there is not an air supremacy. Those who try to play with words and explain the situation differently, unfortunately, insist on not seeing the reality on the field.

 

[Enigma SIG]

Seems like the Russian's aren't enforcing a no-fly zone; or are unable to in certain parts. TB-2's are picking some convoys off. If I were Russia I'd take out the remaining airbases with FOAB's.