Russia’s Growing Ties with Vietnam

[Viet]

Bull crap, the confidence vote is casted by assembly, which was in turn appointed by the government. There is no direct election of the assembly. Vietnam is not a parlimentary democracy.

That is correct, VN is not a democracy, like America or Germany. But Vietnam has adopted a bit of democracy after a series of political reforms: time-limited power of senior leaders (4 years, can be re-elected for another 4 and so fort by Parliament), devision of power (shared between State President and Prime Minister), control of executives (vote of confidence), Q&A sessions im Parliament. And last but not least, the Communist chef ranks #1, but he doesn´t possess any executive power in the government.

And the National Assembly is elected by votes of common citizens over 18.

Right to vote:

All citizens of the Socialist Republic of Vietnam who have attained the age of eighteen, regardless of ethnic group, gender, social position, belief, religion, level of education, occupation, length of residency have the right to vote, except the mentally disabled people and those who have been deprived of that right by law .

Right to election to the National Assembly:

Any Vietnamese citizen who is entitled to vote and who has attained the age of twenty one has the right to stand for election to the National Assembly.

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Recently, for the first time ever, there was a call for resignation im Parliament, asking the current Prime Minister Nguyen to resign for his mistakes in handling the economy. is there anything similar in China?
BBC News - Vietnam Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung urged to resign

And which one is more important to Russia, counter US globally or counter China in SCS?

Both are important to Russia.

 

[Viet]

things must be very slow in vietnam when they are relying on foreign experts to analyse their foreign relations.

that is not bad at all to hear how the others see us.

 

[faithfulguy]

As I said: we need time to turn it into transparency, at least we have confidence vote to test our leader now when China still dare not apply it

Russia bro need some slaves to clean his boots when fighting wt USA, and u r fit wt it

As u can see Russia treat u as a slave in SCS(east sea) , back off or u will get a hard slap from him if u dare to harm VN

You guys would be the ones that carry and clean the boots for Russia as you guys are the pawns of Russia. Russia use you guys to fight against the "imperialist" and you guys willingly sacrifice your country for advancing their communist utopia. When they felled, you guys were left holding the bag. Now you are such a backward nation that is almost as poor as your new master, India.

 

[Soryu]

You guys would be the ones that carry and clean the boots for Russia as you guys are the pawns of Russia. Russia use you guys to fight against the "imperialist" and you guys willingly sacrifice your country for advancing their communist utopia. When they felled, you guys were left holding the bag. Now you are such a backward nation that is almost as poor as your new master, India.

you say so good about "pawns" and "use", "master", but when Amerian say "No", can Taiwan dare to "yes" !??? LOL

The boss snatching chain, his dog has been obediently, you guys are the same.

 

[Soryu]

Vietnam was used as a front for communist experimentation. And you guys are still poor and backward. No wonder you guys export so many mail order brides to countries like Taiwan.

Want to run in another way from fact !?
You can used Viet Brides issue like you want, but fact is still there.

P/S: only low men does something like buy a wife (these poor girls, so pity for them).

I will score the girls above by 3 points out of 10, I mean honestly.

and What's girl you have !?

 

[Viet]

You cannot trust the US. Don't kid yourself with US haing Vietnam's interest at hand. They hate communist regime to the gut, especially Vietnam CCP that they couldn't top over.

Like I said, if I am Vietnamese, I would be very wary of the USA mingling in your country business. Are you forgetting, Assad regime, Hussein, used to be the Allied's friend? Looks what happen to them. USA can always turn a regime upside down to their strategic interest.

ok, we should not trust the US, but can we trust China? as you know China and Vietnam have sea dispute, any idea how we both can overcome it?

 

[retaxis]

ok, we should not trust the US, but can we trust China? as you know China and Vietnam have sea dispute, any idea how we both can overcome it?

Be serious, what percentage do rich Chinese own in Vietnam. Its probably like in Malaysia where Chinese own 80% of the economy.

 

[EastSea]

Be serious, what percentage do rich Chinese own in Vietnam. Its probably like in Malaysia where Chinese own 80% of the economy.

do you have any evidence to prove it ? Chinese people is 25 % of population Malaysia when Hua people in Vietnam is only around 850,000, 1%.

The time has changed, its don't like what was happened in Vietnam war when chinese Hua controlled the retail market only in South Vietnam .

 

[Fsjal]

Okay, come and punish us, let the world know PLA is just a bunch of big mouth & poor trained barbarians


Slow but steady

Poor trained? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

VPA is full of starving young men who can't find better living.

One shot to the chest and they would be on the ground, pleading.

Compare to the PLA, who are more armed and trained, and also, not starving.

our tanks here.

That's an IFV, not a tank. Just 'cause it uses a low velocity cannon, doesn't mean it is a tank.

 

[jhungary]

Pawn, not pawn, is that really is any problem here??

Everyone is pawn while everyone uses some one too. If you were to say Vietnam is pawn used by Russia to counter SE Asia, then would Chinese also become their pawn in the rusky role to counter the American??

So what if Vietnam is merely a pawn is a greater scheme of thing?? Does that mean they should back out??

I don't ever see why Chinese here take this piece of news very badly. Russia is improving ties with Vietnam, big deal, does that mean by improving ties, they cut ties with China??

Come back and moan when the headline read "Russia Improve Ties with Vietnam, stop focusing in China"

 

[xunzi]

ok, we should not trust the US, but can we trust China? as you know China and Vietnam have sea dispute, any idea how we both can overcome it?

We said we are willing to share the resources with Vietnam. So first thing first, are the Vietnamese government ready to start "bilateral" negotiation like we did with the Joint Exploration in Gulf of Tonkin and stop inviting non-party into a bilateral dispute to increase their negotiable power? If the answer is yes, start talking and stop inviting foreigners into a home territory. The more you bring non-entity, the more problems you will have as these non-party will be the one benefiting from a bilateral dispute. Time for Vietnam to get smarter.

 

[Rechoice]

When Vietnam - Russia strengthen defense cooperation
VietNamNet Bridge – Vietnam’s orders for Kilo submarines, Sukhoi Su-30 MK2 fighter aircraft, Svetlyak class high-speed patrol boats and Gepard frigates from Russia are considered not only purely commercial military operations.

Russia helps improve VN's combat readiness

Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu visited Vietnam at the invitation of Minister of Defense Phung Quang Thanh in March 2013. Photo: Le Anh Dung

On August 6-10, the Defense Minister of Vietnam – Mr. Phung Quang Thanh – paid a visit to Russia. Speaking to the press, Thanh said the visit achieved good results and the two countries reached important agreements in promoting the strategic partnerships and technical - military, defense cooperation.
From strategy...
The Vietnam-Russia "comprehensive strategic partnership," signed by President Truong Tan Sang and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin in May 2012 is the ground to expand the strategic ties to the military field, including macro issues such as cooperation in research and application of military doctrine, military art in time of war using high-tech weapons, electronic - information war...
Vietnam - Russia military cooperation will strengthen the traditional relations of friendship for peace, development and not aim at a third country.
Vietnam’s orders for Kilo submarines, Sukhoi Su-30 MK2 fighter aircraft, Svetlyak class high-speed patrol boats and Gepard frigates from Russia are considered not only purely commercial military operations, but the evidence for the comprehensive partnership between the two countries.
…to technology
During the visit of Minister Phung Quang Thanh, the two countries' defense ministers adopted a 5-year plan to train Vietnamese officers, the plans to provide weapons and military equipment to the People's Army of Vietnam. Accordingly, the upgrade, digitalization, maintenance and synchronization of the supply of weapons and military technical equipment will be conducted. Therefore, military technical cooperation, personnel training, technology transfer and making joint ventures for technical maintenance and repair is essential.
In the meeting with Minister Thanh, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu affirmed that the relations with Vietnam are one of the priorities in the defense foreign policy of Russia.
He said Russia considers Vietnam a "strategic partner, the former close and reliable friend." According to him, in the current context in the world and Asia - Pacific region, cooperation with Vietnam in the field of military and military technology is more important.
Vietnam also identified Russia as a strategic partner in military technology cooperation. The interaction in the field of training, exchange of information, scientific research ... is also growing.
The Vietnam Defense Minister affirmed that military training cooperation continues to be one of the directions of important defense cooperation between the two countries.
And the defense ties
Defense relations with a wide range, including all directly and indirectly related sectors to the national defense strategy, military and non-military operations, in which economic cooperation is the foundation of defense cooperation. Thus, bilateral economic cooperation between the two countries has also been strengthened.
Russia has become the third largest foreign investor in Vietnam, behind only Japan and Singapore. Last year, the two countries signed an agreement for Russia to build the nuclear power plants in Ninh Thuan province with total loans of $800 million and the project will be completed in 2020.
The agreement signed in 1994 between the two Defense Ministries and the orientations for technical military cooperation (signed in 1998) have become a reliable basis for the defense relationship between the two countries.
In recent years, relations between Vietnam - Russia have successfully developed in many areas, including defense cooperation. This is entirely consistent with the spirit of the strategic partnership.
The visit to Russia of the Vietnam Defense Minister has made important marks in military cooperation between the two countries.
Nguyen Nham

 

[EastSea]

Poor trained? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


VPA is full of starving young men who can't find better living.

One shot to the chest and they would be on the ground, pleading.

Compare to the PLA, who are more armed and trained, and also, not starving.



That's an IFV, not a tank. Just 'cause it uses a low velocity cannon, doesn't mean it is a tank.

 

[Viet]

We said we are willing to share the resources with Vietnam.
So first thing first, are the Vietnamese government ready to start "bilateral" negotiation like we did with the Joint Exploration in Gulf of Tonkin

did you miss something?

China and Vietnam has been in the difficult negotiation process since several years. The recent third round was held in Beijing this year. Next round will be in Hanoi. Don´t forget: both parties signed an Agreement on basic principles guiding the settlement of sea-related issues in Beijing on Oct. 11, 2011.

VN-China basic principles on settlement of sea issues -- Vietnam+ (VietnamPlus)
Vietnam, China hold sea-related negotiations | VOV Online Newspaper
Vietnam latest news - Thanh Nien Daily | Vietnam, China say sea disputes will be settled peacefully

...and stop inviting non-party into a bilateral dispute to increase their negotiable power? If the answer is yes, start talking and stop inviting foreigners into a home territory. The more you bring non-entity, the more problems you will have as these non-party will be the one benefiting from a bilateral dispute. Time for Vietnam to get smarter.

I think you are not aware of the key principles of Vietnam foreign policy towards China: the 3 NO´s
- No to foreign bases and troops in Vietnam
- No to military alliances in the region
- No to cooperations if they explicitly aim against China

BUT we are not stupid. This policy can only continue if Vietnam doesn´t feel threatened by your military buildup. And of course this policy does not hinder Vietnam to do what we think that serves our interests, including peaceful cooperations with all neighbors and other powers. China´s recent actions in the SC Sea do not help much in bulding trusts in Vietnam.

History shows more than one time China always uses Vietnam weakness to take advantages.

Think about it!

 

[Soryu]

We said we are willing to share the resources with Vietnam. So first thing first, are the Vietnamese government ready to start "bilateral" negotiation like we did with the Joint Exploration in Gulf of Tonkin and stop inviting non-party into a bilateral dispute to increase their negotiable power? If the answer is yes, start talking and stop inviting foreigners into a home territory. The more you bring non-entity, the more problems you will have as these non-party will be the one benefiting from a bilateral dispute. Time for Vietnam to get smarter.

Well, we can not trust you in all hands . USA come by themselves, we don't invite anyone to intervention in SCS disputed.

If you saying about military ships visit our port, it's normal thing, PRC has those activities as well.