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Russia ‘Open’ to Return of Armenia-Held Land to Azerbaijan – Putin

Great. Now you finally agree with me that Russia is a weak power who is afraid of taking on major powers like Turkiye and Pakistan.

Armenia also annexed Azerbaijani enclaves in Armenia. Look at the map. So it wasn't worth a war. Also, at the time Armenia joined CSTO in 1994 Azerbaijan had already invaded and annexed Armenian enclave in Azerbaijan.

The good thing about being in CSTO is if Azerbaijanis enter Armenian soil then Russia bomb them like Desert Storm. You don't mess with world's biggest country. Capish?
Things change over time my dear.

In the past Turkiye was also secular (Thanks to idiotic policies of Atatürk ) but today Erdoğan has turned Turkiye into a great Islamic republic in a matter of years.

World becoming less and less religious. Young people in ME are not religious.
 
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Armenia also annexed Azerbaijani enclaves in Armenia. Look at the map. So it wasn't worth a war. Also, at the time Armenia joined CSTO in 1994 Azerbaijan had already invaded and annexed Armenian enclave in Azerbaijan.

The good thing about being in CSTO is if Azerbaijan enter Armenian soil then Russia bomb them like Desert Storm. You don't mess with world's biggest country. Capish?

What is your point?

Azerbaijan was also part of CSTO then. Azerbaijan quit CSTO when US/NATO offered the BTC pipeline to quit Russia's CSTO alliance.
 
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Who lost Crimea? Yeah. Not Russia.
who hasnt recovered 2 large provinces like DOnetsk? yup..."strong" Ukrainians. THis man is trolling- NATO exists today to contain 1 country- Russia. If Russia was actually weak then we wouldnt need NATO..US + EU keep sending reinforcements to weak NATO states bordering RUssia why??? he's factually incorrect. Russia has decimated most terrorists the west sent against it, be in Libya, or Syria.
LoL Do you know that the whole of Eastern Ukraine was part of Russia under Catherine the Great ?
that doesnt matter. As of today its part of The Ukrainian state's territory..stop making excuses for Ukraine...they are no match for Russia IF Russia wanted open conflict.
 
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Putin is pragmatic.

He knows that Russia is not in a position to defend Armenia against the combined forces of Turkiye + Azerbaijan
Yet somehow you say the opposite when it came to Russia China against usa thread.
 
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Yet somehow you say the opposite when it came to Russia China against usa thread.

There is no contradiction.

Turkiye + Pakistan > Russia + China > US + India
that doesnt matter. As of today its part of The Ukrainian state's territory..stop making excuses for Ukraine...they are no match for Russia IF Russia wanted open conflict.

In fact, Russia is the one who is making excuses as she is unable to take the Eastern Ukraine for the last 6 years.
 
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Turkiye + Pakistan > Russia + China > US + India

Maybe in a parallel universe.
In fact, Russia is the one who is making excuses as she is unable to take the Eastern Ukraine for the last 6 years.

Russia never wanted Eastern Ukraine. Crimea was the only region in Ukraine that had an ethnic Russian majority. Eastern Ukraine has always had an ethnic Ukrainian majority. It would cause trouble. Russia wants a country where ethnic Russian is majority. More stable. USSR was ethnic Russian minority and was not stable.
 
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Turkey and Azerbaijan don't dare to invade Armenia so what's your point?
Pure conjecture. Up until a month ago, we also thought Azerbaijan wouldn't dare invade NK. We assumed Russia and the West would stop it before or during the initial stages.

There's much that you think is impossible but seems to keep happening.
 
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Pure conjecture. Up until a month ago, we also thought Azerbaijan wouldn't dare invade NK. We assumed Russia and the West would stop it before or during the initial stages.

There's much that you think is impossible but seems to keep happening.

NK is in Azerbaijan, not in Armenia. So what's your point? Not to mention Azerbaijani army can't take the mountain after suffering thousands of casualties in only 1 month, a heavy price for a country of only 9 million people.

 
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"Turkiye+Pakistan+Azerbaijan" are no match for Russia if Putin really decides to send its forces to protect Armenia.

If you're larping as an Indian Muslim, at least make it a little believable.
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Russia is just pissed at the current "Armenian leadership" for swaying away Armenians made a huge mistake in this regards small 3 million populated country with large hostile neighbors and yet they piss their only ally Russia such low iq move but Aliyev isnt stupid attacking Armenia proper would justify Russian intervention
 
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Russia is open to Azerbaijan reclaiming seven areas surrounding the disputed region of Nagorno-Karabakh that Armenia has controlled for 26 years, President Vladimir Putin said Thursday.
Azerbaijani forces have been making gains against Armenian separatist fighters since the heaviest fighting since a 1994 ceasefire over the South Caucasus region erupted last month. The Armenia-controlled districts surrounding Nagorno-Karabakh, which the international community recognizes as part of Azerbaijan, are key parts of hampered Russian, French and U.S.-led peace talks.


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“Our position is absolutely open about the possibility of handing over these five plus two districts to Azerbaijan, alongside the provision of a specific regime for the Karabakh zone and the securing of a connection with Armenia,” Putin said at an investment forum.
“But we need to stop the fighting at the first stage, stop the loss of life and sit at the negotiating table,” he said.
Putin raised the possibility of the transfer following three failed attempts at negotiating a ceasefire, the latest in a U.S.-brokered deal over the weekend.
He spoke as Nagorno-Karabakh president Arayik Harutyunyan warned that Azeri forces were closing in on the unrecognized republic’s second-largest city of Shusha, which would mark a turning point in the month of fighting.
“Whoever controls Shushi controls Artsakh," he said, using the Armenian names for the town and Nagorno-Karabakh.
Putin also accused the Soviet leadership of “inaction” toward the deadly ethnic clashes in Azerbaijan in the late 1980s that he said had led to the separatist war.
“The Armenians took up arms and did it themselves,” he said, adding that the seven surrounding districts fell under the control of Armenian protectorate Nagorno-Karabakh following these clashes.
“Is that good or not?” Putin asked. “You know, everyone has their own truth.”
Azerbaijan and Armenia have been locked in a bitter conflict over Karabakh since Armenian separatists backed by Yerevan seized control of the mountainous province in a 1990s war that left 30,000 people dead.
Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan has meanwhile called on Russian-led peacekeepers to help stop the conflict.
AFP contributed reporting.
Russia is playing a very positive role, and if this dispute gets solved peacefully then it will be another big victory.
 
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I have two questions.

Initially Armenia was pro USSR/Rusia. So why we see million plus Armenians in US. How did US allowed so many Armenians and why ?

Which 7 districts Putin is talking about ? If someone can please show me on map. Simple lines or dots will do.
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And what Putin propose for the nagorno karabah region. ? A separate regime that is acceptable to both Armenia and Azerbaijan ?
Yes.. But armenia will not agree to
Giving up the 7 districts

Those 7 dustricts are 100x more valuable then NK..
NK is just a few mountain with population just less then 80k to 100,000 while those plains had over a million azeris in the past

Then shusha is cultural capital of azeris which is in NK area..
So soviets were right keeping it in azeri land..
You cant make 100s of enclaves..
 
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