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US is not a saint and noone is better including Russia.Fact is still US is giving a lot of aids to our western neighbour and noone can ignore their actions in our nation including delaying our Cryogenic engine
So you dont need to justify the actions of US.But there is no permenant friends in geopolitics only permanent interests


I agree. Time shave changed and we both have a common enemy. However, the US aid given to our neighbors is crap....if they don't strengthn their militsry to some degree, their nukes will fall into the wrong hands. That is unacceptable. Its a well known fact, that Pakistan is run by the military, not democracy. The issues you have pointed out with the US are well known, given the state of our relations prior to 2000. All that has changed for the better. Forgive, but never forget the past should be our guiding priniciple on US relations. I rather trust the US than China. At least the US, is responible enough not to hand nukes to Pakistan.
 
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I agree. Time shave changed and we both have a common enemy. However, the US aid given to our neighbors is crap....if they don't strengthn their militsry to some degree, their nukes will fall into the wrong hands. That is unacceptable. Its a well known fact, that Pakistan is run by the military, not democracy. The issues you have pointed out with the US are well known, given the state of our relations prior to 2000. All that has changed for the better. Forgive, but never forget the past should be our guiding priniciple on US relations. I rather trust the US than China. At least the US, is responible enough not to hand nukes to Pakistan.

But US had enough info about their Nuke program.If they want they could have stop that. .But they dont mind it.Fact is they need to bogged down India in SA itself .You can see how they torturred Iran in the name of Nukes.But completely ignored about Pak nukes.
A simple support from US would had beenenable Israel to mount ops in their research facilities lime they did Syria.But they choose to ignore.
So lets its gothat way.
Today in this world we need everyone for cooperation.
 
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READ MY POST AGAIN. I didn't say anything about what you are referring to in terms of market. I only pointed our own industry noted that prices that China is pushing is not feasible for them to even break even. The move is simply to get rid of our own business.


Why should we allow China to get rich off us while they promote insecurity in our region? We do agree on the same points, my issue was about the rail and road links. Unless we strengthen our country, I would highly advise it.


Arms dealing 101 as I referred to it, is playing both sides. I pointed it out numerous times, about France playing both sides. You can even look it up on this site going back yrs. Forget about Tibet, the time for making any moves on that is long gone. The only thing we can now is change our stand if we are pushed but thats requires a calculated thought out process.

Regardless of degrees, I am right on my points. Your reply did not counter anything. You did not provide or demonstrate how they can be dealt with (Maybe I missed it). That's the problem with Indians, everybody wants to be a f-ing chief. It seems you are upset, for what? I provided details but suddenly its not good enough. Why? I countered your points, stating China gave nukes. France and US money and weapons is nothing incomparions. Hell, the US also helped strengthen Pakistan control and command structure of Nukes so an accidental blast does not occur.


I pointed out the security issues with China's export for telecom and electrical equipment, yet you keep on yapping about trade and economics? So, you think it's okay to buy such products regardless of the security implication because it economically cheaper?


Have a nice day. The point is anything is possible given the right circumstances but China has not shown anything. So, that wishful thinking of roads and rails can remain a distant dream unless there was a change of goverance in Bejing.

For protecting our industries - Read up on trade tariffs and trade barriers in action in India. It will give you your answers.

There is no alternative to working with China.

There are mechanisms in place for tapping telecom and electrical equipment. If you find anybody from the ARC of the Intelligence community they will explain to you our capabilities of the same. I am aware of this because my family members are/were in the DRDO and BEL and have friends who worked in the ARC. So I am aware of what we are capable of, which I am sure was not told to me in full. Believe me, its quite something. Also, I have worked for a few weeks with the security surveillance teams in Maharashtra and have hacked into VSNL servers when was a college kid. So I know how much time it takes to tap in and monitor things across layers. Lets leave it at that.

Have a nice day :)
 
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For protecting our industries - Read up on trade tariffs and trade barriers in action in India. It will give you your answers.

There is no alternative to working with China.

There are mechanisms in place for tapping telecom and electrical equipment. If you find anybody from the ARC of the Intelligence community they will explain to you our capabilities of the same. I am aware of this because my family members are/were in the DRDO and BEL and have friends who worked in the ARC. So I am aware of what we are capable of, which I am sure was not told to me in full. Believe me, its quite something. Also, I have worked for a few weeks with the security surveillance teams in Maharashtra and have hacked into VSNL servers when was a college kid. So I know how much time it takes to tap in and monitor things across layers. Lets leave it at that.

Have a nice day :)


You too bro. Thanks for the input and perspective.
 
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But US had enough info about their Nuke program.If they want they could have stop that. .But they dont mind it.Fact is they need to bogged down India in SA itself .You can see how they torturred Iran in the name of Nukes.But completely ignored about Pak nukes.
A simple support from US would had beenenable Israel to mount ops in their research facilities lime they did Syria.But they choose to ignore.
So lets its gothat way.
Today in this world we need everyone for cooperation.


Good points....thanks for the perspective.
 
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