Russia, India Finalizing Deal on PAK FA Fifth-Generation Jets

[nadeemkhan110]

During the upcoming annual Indo-Russian summit, an agreement is expected to be inked on the delivery of Sukhoi T-50 (PAK FA) fighter jets to India under the joint FGFA initiative, The Financial Express reported citing a senior military official.




The fifth-generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) programme is based on the Russian-made Sukhoi T-50 aircraft. It involves Russia’s Sukhoi Design Bureau and India’s Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL).


According to the source, the agreement will include a fixed order for 154 jets, work share and a commitment to the number of single-seat and double-seat aircraft.

"Given the current situation, where the Indian Air Force (IAF) is in deep trouble due to its fast depleting force structure, the Indian government will need to take well thought out decision with long-term and strategic foresight. There is no doubt that the PAK-FA (Sukhoi Design Proposal) will be emerge as a major FGFA in the world. Hence, it would be better for India to take a reality check on the FGFA and recalibrate its position," the source told The Financial Times.

In January, it was reported that Russia and India agreed on the project of the FGFA jet fighter. In February, Russia’s Rosoboronexport said all technical details had been settled, and the commercial part of the deal was in discussion.

The Sukhoi/HAL project is meant to radically upgrade India's air strength through the combination of Russian expertise and Indian financing.




Russia’s fifth-generation Sukhoi T-50 PAK FA fighter jet, known in India as FGFA, is equipped with an advanced defense system that can neutralize an enemy plane’s stealth capability.


According to Indian Defense Minister Manohar Parrikar, the two countries have already injected about 230 million dollars into the FGFA project, which is based on the development of the T-50 aircraft.

The FGFA, which is expected to be armed with weapons of Indian origin, will fly at a speed of 2,300 kilometers per hour and will have a range of 3,800 kilometers.
Source: Russia, India Finalizing Deal on PAK FA Fifth-Generation Jets

 

[Ghazwa e Hind]

India cannot get this 5th Generation platform earlier than 2020. PAF can induct a 5th Gen jet around 2022.

 

[Chanakyaa]

PAF can induct a 5th Gen jet around 2022.

Not b4 2030. J series is 3-5 years behind PAK FA , And Chinese will first Fill their domestic demands.
Plus Availability is secondary, Funds are Primary.

Pakistan needs J10 / More block 52 /60 first.

 

[indianBong]

another decade of "bakch0di" before it ACTUALLY happens.....

 

[Jacob Martin]

Pakistan needs to buy at least 2 squadrons of F-22s. Unless it does that, the Reaganite objectives for India's defence spending will not be achieved....

 

[Ind4Ever]

India cannot get this 5th Generation platform earlier than 2020. PAF can induct a 5th Gen jet around 2022.

LOL its half baked story... India planning to go for MKI route. First batch will reach India between 2017-18 with same PakFa single seat Russian standard. Later will be fully enhanced FGFA ad per IAF requirements. Total numbers of PakFa alone would exceed 64+. FOUR SQUADRONS 4 FOR TRAINING exact details unavailable. But very interesting news ahead. Russians willing to share their planned fleet of PakFa due to urgency shown by Indian Government. Power-packed visit is ahead. Massive new defence deals worth over 25-30 billion expected to be inked.

India already in talks with very high level of Russian government. Some says Indian Premier Modi office PMO and DM had several strategic talks with Russian head (Putin?) . India worked out well planned strategic road map to thwart Russian insistence on Su35 upgraded version against French Rafale for very long time. Cash strapped Russian federation willing to fastract and share many high technology with India in an attempt to take our relationship to an whole new level.
At the time when US ready to arm India to teeth against China.

Plan is to make Russia as India's largest weapon supplier for the next 20-30 years. Modi is a great and very strong personality same like Russian president who can take decisions on his own. Which India lacked two years ago. Am expecting lots of new surprise deals during our PM's Moscow visit.

India is on its way to counter and challenge China in a big way. Just two deals for 12 billion dollars worth S400 and PakFa /FGFA alone will disintegrate China's ambitions in Asia and especially in IOR and SCS. It's seen as countermeasure by India against latest breakthrough in Chinese aerospace industries and long pending missile superiority.

Massive development in Indian mindset. Very proactive and aggressive indeed

India cannot get this 5th Generation platform earlier than 2020. PAF can induct a 5th Gen jet around 2022.

Pakistan will be crippled once it induct even a decent air superiority fighter. Let alone Fifth gen fighters. But Pakistan will go for it as China is he'll bent to arm Pakistan weak airforce and very small PN... Point is will Pakistan dare to get its hands on future fighter jets? Answer is big no. These are not nuclear weapons these are jets which needs to be at it top notch conditions to maintain its stealth characteristics. Which means maintenace will be make a huge well in your pocket even if you can afford to buy 30-50 J31.

First ask yourself why technological advanced Chinese aerospace industries dint want to make JF17 in its MK3 configuration at one go? Reasonable question? Yes. Now they will fix a refuelling probe and call it MK2. That itself gonna take long time to get inducted.

Answer : More technologies, capabilities means more investment more money more man hours. Pakistan will be and is ready to go for another low interest loan. But it's too heavy even for China to take its burden for sure.

Now tell me how many 5th generation fighter you can induct? By 2022 India will have large number of LCA armed with Russian Israeli weapons and AESA radars. This alone will give you a run for your money.


LCA an light aircraft and literally a midget aircraft for our heavyweight Indian Airforce.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

We have been quite hearing this news for sometime. Time for new news.

 

[Ghazwa e Hind]

LOL its half baked story... India planning to go for MKI route. First batch will reach India between 2017-18 with same PakFa single seat Russian standard. Later will be fully enhanced FGFA ad per IAF requirements. Total numbers of PakFa alone would exceed 64+. FOUR SQUADRONS 4 FOR TRAINING exact details unavailable. But very interesting news ahead. Russians willing to share their planned fleet of PakFa due to urgency shown by Indian Government. Power-packed visit is ahead. Massive new defence deals worth over 25-30 billion expected to be inked.

India already in talks with very high level of Russian government. Some says Indian Premier Modi office PMO and DM had several strategic talks with Russian head (Putin?) . India worked out well planned strategic road map to thwart Russian insistence on Su35 upgraded version against French Rafale for very long time. Cash strapped Russian federation willing to fastract and share many high technology with India in an attempt to take our relationship to an whole new level.
At the time when US ready to arm India to teeth against China.

Plan is to make Russia as India's largest weapon supplier for the next 20-30 years. Modi is a great and very strong personality same like Russian president who can take decisions on his own. Which India lacked two years ago. Am expecting lots of new surprise deals during our PM's Moscow visit.

India is on its way to counter and challenge China in a big way. Just two deals for 12 billion dollars worth S400 and PakFa /FGFA alone will disintegrate China's ambitions in Asia and especially in IOR and SCS. It's seen as countermeasure by India against latest breakthrough in Chinese aerospace industries and long pending missile superiority.

Massive development in Indian mindset. Very proactive and aggressive indeed



Pakistan will be crippled once it induct even a decent air superiority fighter. Let alone Fifth gen fighters. But Pakistan will go for it as China is he'll bent to arm Pakistan weak airforce and very small PN... Point is will Pakistan dare to get its hands on future fighter jets? Answer is big no. These are not nuclear weapons these are jets which needs to be at it top notch conditions to maintain its stealth characteristics. Which means maintenace will be make a huge well in your pocket even if you can afford to buy 30-50 J31.

First ask yourself why technological advanced Chinese aerospace industries dint want to make JF17 in its MK3 configuration at one go? Reasonable question? Yes. Now they will fix a refuelling probe and call it MK2. That itself gonna take long time to get inducted.

Answer : More technologies, capabilities means more investment more money more man hours. Pakistan will be and is ready to go for another low interest loan. But it's too heavy even for China to take its burden for sure.

Now tell me how many 5th generation fighter you can induct? By 2022 India will have large number of LCA armed with Russian Israeli weapons and AESA radars. This alone will give you a run for your money.


LCA an light aircraft and literally a midget aircraft for our heavyweight Indian Airforce.

Your bakwas reminds me the video, "bharat uthaye ga das qadam!!! or Pakistan ho jaye ga khatam"

 

[nForce]

Your bakwas reminds me the video, "bharat uthaye ga das qadam!!! or Pakistan ho jaye ga khatam"

make it 5 qadam.. 10 qadam '71 se pehle tha.

 

[Pulsar]

India cannot get this 5th Generation platform earlier than 2020. PAF can induct a 5th Gen jet around 2022.

Which 5th gen platform is the PAF planning? J-31? If so it would not be earlier than 2025-26 as the PLAAF and PLAN will need to be equipped first.

However, it is said that the Chinese may not induct this aircraft due to its under-performance and thus concentrate on exporting it instead. Pakistan may be one of the customers if it can afford to purchase the aircraft.

 

[Akasa]

Which 5th gen platform is the PAF planning? J-31? If so it would not be earlier than 2025-26 as the PLAAF and PLAN will need to be equipped first.

However, it is said that the Chinese may not induct this aircraft due to its under-performance and thus concentrate on exporting it instead. Pakistan may be one of the customers if it can afford to purchase the aircraft.

The J-31 is a modular project, and thus induction and delivery dates will vary, depending on the configuration and/or capabilities that a customer wants to have.

AVIC personnel did state that if the PAF placed an order now, the FC-31 would be produced starting in 2019 and achieve IOC in 2022.

 

[Ghazwa e Hind]

Which 5th gen platform is the PAF planning? J-31? If so it would not be earlier than 2025-26 as the PLAAF and PLAN will need to be equipped first.

However, it is said that the Chinese may not induct this aircraft due to its under-performance and thus concentrate on exporting it instead. Pakistan may be one of the customers if it can afford to purchase the aircraft.

PAF and PLAAF can make it ready even earlier than 2020, don't use your Tejas experience on others!

make it 5 qadam.. 10 qadam '71 se pehle tha.

71 sy pehle to 1962 or 1965 tha! When indians were brutally raped by China and Pakistan one after another.

 

[CHI RULES]

Which 5th gen platform is the PAF planning? J-31? If so it would not be earlier than 2025-26 as the PLAAF and PLAN will need to be equipped first.

However, it is said that the Chinese may not induct this aircraft due to its under-performance and thus concentrate on exporting it instead. Pakistan may be one of the customers if it can afford to purchase the aircraft.

China will equip Pla and Plan with J20 not with J31, It is only for exports.

The relatively short range and lesser Pay load of J31 make it it more suitable for countries with short strategic depth like Pak.

 

[nForce]

71 sy pehle to 1962 or 1965 tha! When indians were brutally raped by China and Pakistan one after another.

Now a Pakistani is trying hard to be a Chinese. This is new, earlier, Pakistanis like you used to behave more like Afghans or Arabs or Americans. No wonder you don't have an identity of your own. Tomorrow, when the Chinese will siphon off all your country's money, then you will try hard to act like a Japanese.

And 1965 ? Bhutto's war ? You lost it.

 

[CHI RULES]

Now a Pakistani is trying hard to be a Chinese. This is new, earlier, Pakistanis like you used to behave more like Afghans or Arabs or Americans. No wonder you don't have an identity of your own. Tomorrow, when the Chinese will siphon off all your country's money, then you will try hard to act like a Japanese.

And 1965 ? Bhutto's war ? You lost it.

The war was not between India vs Pak it was actually between Pak Est and public of East Pak u were only facilitators and initiators of the rift. Now u will face consequences in longer run one side u have Pak and on other side Bangladesh. Pro Indian Govt there will not last long. U have already lost ur grip on Sirilanka.