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The percieved Indian closeness to the USA has mad Russia unhappy and this is reflected in its attitude as well as the 5th generation fighter deal

2002 Jalandhar MiG-21 - Wikipedia - wikipedia.org Russian war plane. BN support

#india and #Russia had decided to invest $ 25 billion in a new #5Th Generation interceptor. The deal which involved the transfer of technology was to be signed in 2016. The deal till date is not signed and it appears, the Russians are not very keen to conclude the deal now. They are also not giving the codes for the various military software imports from Russia. The Russians are peeved that India is abandoning them and moving closer to the US, which the Russians consider their opponent. This cold-shouldering of India is something new as India and Russia for decades had a close relationship. The Russians are also cultivating Pakistan, which they had never done before.

Earlier close relationship
India has been allied with Russia since the fifties when the left-leaning defence minister Krishna Menon took India into the Soviet orbit. In 1970 India also signed a mutual defence and security pact. This came in handy when India invaded East Pakistan in 1971 as the Soviets backed India. Their submarine fleet also tacked along the 7th fleet as it sailed to the Bay of Bengal. India remained a close friend of Russia but things are changing now. The Russians are wary of India as India moves closer to the US.

The close military relationship with Russia lasted almost 50 years. The Russians supplied India with all their military hardware including Transport planes, tanks, field guns, aircraft, and missiles. The MIG and the Sukhoi were mainstays of the IAF. Things began to change in the 21st century as the US also decided that India could be the strategic partner to counter China. The Obama years saw India and US move closer as India went in for US military equipment.

Donald and Modi
Donald Trump has now rung up and congratulated the Indian PM Modi on his victory in the recent state elections. He has also invited Modi to visit the US towards the end of this year. Modi was among the first leaders Donald spoke after becoming president. This is not to the liking of Russia. Though India would like to do a balancing act and also remain friends with Russia, it is not possible. Modi will have to decide between Russia and America.

Future
It will be interesting to see how the US accommodates India in the future. The US also backs Pakistan to a certain extent and this is not to India's liking. Possibly Modi will try and keep relations friendly with Russia, but America is now the preferred partner.

http://uk.blastingnews.com/politics...for-the-5th-generation-fighter-001593071.html
 
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The percieved Indian closeness to the USA has mad Russia unhappy and this is reflected in its attitude as well as the 5th generation fighter deal

2002 Jalandhar MiG-21 - Wikipedia - wikipedia.org Russian war plane. BN support

#india and #Russia had decided to invest $ 25 billion in a new #5Th Generation interceptor. The deal which involved the transfer of technology was to be signed in 2016. The deal till date is not signed and it appears, the Russians are not very keen to conclude the deal now. They are also not giving the codes for the various military software imports from Russia. The Russians are peeved that India is abandoning them and moving closer to the US, which the Russians consider their opponent. This cold-shouldering of India is something new as India and Russia for decades had a close relationship. The Russians are also cultivating Pakistan, which they had never done before.

Earlier close relationship
India has been allied with Russia since the fifties when the left-leaning defence minister Krishna Menon took India into the Soviet orbit. In 1970 India also signed a mutual defence and security pact. This came in handy when India invaded East Pakistan in 1971 as the Soviets backed India. Their submarine fleet also tacked along the 7th fleet as it sailed to the Bay of Bengal. India remained a close friend of Russia but things are changing now. The Russians are wary of India as India moves closer to the US.

The close military relationship with Russia lasted almost 50 years. The Russians supplied India with all their military hardware including Transport planes, tanks, field guns, aircraft, and missiles. The MIG and the Sukhoi were mainstays of the IAF. Things began to change in the 21st century as the US also decided that India could be the strategic partner to counter China. The Obama years saw India and US move closer as India went in for US military equipment.

Donald and Modi
Donald Trump has now rung up and congratulated the Indian PM Modi on his victory in the recent state elections. He has also invited Modi to visit the US towards the end of this year. Modi was among the first leaders Donald spoke after becoming president. This is not to the liking of Russia. Though India would like to do a balancing act and also remain friends with Russia, it is not possible. Modi will have to decide between Russia and America.

Future
It will be interesting to see how the US accommodates India in the future. The US also backs Pakistan to a certain extent and this is not to India's liking. Possibly Modi will try and keep relations friendly with Russia, but America is now the preferred partner.

http://uk.blastingnews.com/politics...for-the-5th-generation-fighter-001593071.html
They will conclude the deal.as India pays insane amount of money to Russia that no country can match
 
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Whatever @Hassan Guy . The problem for you guy is many places, S-400 alone is such a system can destroy entire PAF two times without even single MKI or Tejas flying. Americans fear this system for something.
S400 is a deadly system,but telling it will destroy entire paf is something is impossible task. You need an airforce with aircraft to destroy somebody elses airforce,sam are for defensive purposes.
 
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Russia military industry will collapse to nothing without indian $$$ billions .

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USA FRANCE & ISRAEL Are winning massive deals

currently

Russia is on the verge of winning
SU30MKI upgrade deal worth $10 billion
Gorgorvich Frigates x 4 ships worth $3 billion
second Akula class lease £1 billion
S400 abm system worth $4 billion
T90 SM deal for 464 tanks worth $2,5 billion


All of these deald can be lost to USA FRANCE or ISRAEL idf thye Russians don't tread carefully around INDIA
 
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Russia military industry will collapse to nothing without indian $$$ billions .

Rafale
Scorpene
C17 globemasters
P8 posideon
C130 hercules
m777 HOWITZERS
Barak 8 Sams
ge414 ENGINES
ELBIT dash 5 HMD/ python 5
Harpy drones


USA FRANCE & ISRAEL Are winning massive deals

currently

Russia is on the verge of winning
SU30MKI upgrade deal worth $10 billion
Gorgorvich Frigates x 4 ships worth $3 billion
second Akula class lease £1 billion
S400 abm system worth $4 billion
T90 SM deal for 464 tanks worth $2,5 billion


All of these deald can be lost to USA FRANCE or ISRAEL idf thye Russians don't tread carefully around INDIA
Its the other way around, the Indian military machine will collapse without Russian support.
India has invested 100's of billions of dollars in Russian military equipment for decades.
With over 70% of its military equipment Russian made it will remain reliant on them for decades.
India can't just switch to American and French hardware overnight.
 
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This is called rejecting two deals (American and Russian )from throwing one arrow against both for taking way longer than expected to finalize.
 
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Looking at past record... being fully in American court is never a win win situation. It is not about only MIG deal but also the Nuclear reactor being maintained by Russian even they can face heat or retrieving closeness of Indo Russian relations.
 
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They will conclude the deal.as India pays insane amount of money to Russia that no country can match

Sure they will conclude the deal when their 6th gen fighter is about to released :lol:, India's money is considered as long term loan for Russia :p:. A ask for full TOT from Russia mean to make India from Mr. nobody to Mr. somebody over night, Indians are dreaming.
 
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Sure they will conclude the deal when their 6th gen fighter is about to released :lol:, India's money is considered as long term loan for Russia :p:. A ask for full TOT from Russia mean to make India from Mr. nobody to Mr. somebody over night, Indians are dreaming.
Something wrong with sanity when insane amount of money is poured into something this insane. Does this sentence sounds sane or insane? :cuckoo:
 
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TOT isn't possible.russia is a huge arms market.if they allow indians to use their products and tell them how to design those systems,than russians will be on the road.nobody will transfer sensitive technology specially stealth technology.it needs very warm relations,brotherly relation.by moving towards america,india simply forgets russia.russia don't like american navy presence in indian ocean.there is also coordination between american and indian navy related to indian ocean security.russia might provide india 5th generation fighter jet but make in india isn't possible.
 
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