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A new independent report finds that Russia doctored photos to implicate the Ukrainian military in the shooting down of the Malaysian airliner MH17 last July, casting doubt on Russian claims that neither separatists armed by Russia nor its own military were to blame for the disaster.

The report is the latest by the independent analysis group, Bellingcat, which has been using open source material -- often video and photos posted on social media -- to provide hard evidence that Russia has been sending troops and weapons into eastern Ukraine to support rebels there, despite denials from the Kremlin.

MH17 was shot out of the air on July 17, 2014, killing all 298 passengers on board. Most experts say the plane was most likely struck by a Buk anti-aircraft missile, a type commonly used by Ukrainian and Russian forces.

Shortly after the crash, Russia's defense ministry presented satellite images it said showed Buk missile launchers belonging to Ukraine's army near the eastern city of Donetsk in the days around the shooting-down, meant to imply that the Ukrainian army had hit the plane.
After 30 pages of analysis, Bellingcat says "unequivocally" that these images have been digitally altered so as to falsely appear that they were taken in the days around the crash. The photos were actually taken in the first half of June, the report says.

Besides the altered dates, Bellingcat says the photos exhibit many signs of being Photoshopped, apparently to conceal objects that would betray they were taken a month before -- adding cloud cover for example.

The group says it is clear proof that Russia's government has lied in connection with the crash.

"These claims, representing the majority of information publicly presented by the Russian government since the downing of Flight MH17, are a clear attempt by the Russian government to deceive the public, global community, and the families of the Flight MH17 victims," Bellingcat said in a statement released with the report.

The downing of MH17 caused outrage around the world and prompted western countries to impose harsher sanctions on Russia for its role in arming pro-Russian separatists.

Since then Russian authorities have churned out different theories laying blame on Ukraine's military, falsely claiming a Ukrainian fighter-jet had been nearby and giving a false flight-plan for MH17; the separatists have even suggested the plane was full of corpses before it took off.

Bellingcat says it has now proved four major statements by the Russian defense ministry on MH17 as deliberately false. It adds to a growing pile of evidence that Russia's government is trying to conceal its military's activity in eastern Ukraine; modern tanks, only in use by Russia, have been repeatedly spotted and serving soldiers have posted on social media showing themselves fighting.

Last week Vladimir Putin issued a decree making details of troop deaths during special operations in peacetime a state secret, following a steady trickle of reports of Russian soldiers killed in Ukraine.

So far there has been no definitive conclusions on who was to blame for the destruction of MH17. An official inquiry by Dutch government investigators -- most of the victims were from Holland -- is expected to publish its findings this summer.

Russia Doctored Photos in Shooting Down of Airliner, Report Finds - ABC News
 
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A new independent report finds that Russia doctored photos to implicate the Ukrainian military in the shooting down of the Malaysian airliner MH17 last July, casting doubt on Russian claims that neither separatists armed by Russia nor its own military were to blame for the disaster.
When you and rest of kind posting lies -it is quite good idea to post lies which at least will last for few days and wil fool few people before proofed as false and another failed attempt of propaganda.
So called Bellingcat is person named Elliot Higgins.The same "blogger" claims he got his money in his quest to find the truth via crowd funding.The same method was recommended by certain P.Breedlove as a good method to track " Russian invasion" in Ukraine.
The same " truth loving blogger" is also part of of the The London Project Investigation media network, a partnership of hackers and journalists of the Financial Times.
The same " blogger" also has ties with Atlantic Council and CIA front-USA NGO US Aid.
The same " blogger" is also connected to organization funded with money from certain person called George Soros.
The same " truth loving blogger" was one of those who blamed Syrian government for alleged use of poison gas-later proofed as lie once again invented by the West.
Independent report - yeah right...Only people like the OP and his buddies can believe such " independent report" .
 
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Some random blogger discovered that Russia's satellite images and other proof was faked, when even governments could not refute Russia's evidence.

Sad that ABC would stoop as low as to write an article about information provided from a blogger. This is pathetic.
 
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Some random blogger discovered that Russia's satellite images and other proof was faked, when even governments could not refute Russia's evidence.

Sad that ABC would stoop as low as to write an article about information provided from a blogger. This is pathetic.


Give it a rest,the whole world knew the Russians brought down that airliner when they bragged about it on every social network minutes after(thinking it was an Ukrainian plane).Just because the retards realised their error and started denying it after that doesn't mean a whole planet swallowed the pill.You denying this is an insult to the victims,pls have some decency.Those were innocent people killed by your compatriots,they don't deserve their memory spat upon in forums just for propaganda purposes.
 
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Give it a rest,the whole world knew the Russians brought down that airliner when they bragged about it on every social network minutes after(thinking it was an Ukrainian plane).Just because the retards realised their error and started denying it after that doesn't mean a whole planet swallowed the pill.You denying this is an insult to the victims,pls have some decency.Those were innocent people killed by your compatriots,they don't deserve their memory spat upon in forums just for propaganda purposes.


Ukraine shot down a Russian airliner about 15 years ago and denied it for a long time. I do not know who shot down the Malaysian airliner but Russia released some evidence in which implicates that Kiev lied that it did not have aircraft in the area. Even before the accident "Russian rebels" were on video complaining that Ukrainian military aircraft would use civilian aircraft as cover.

This means that even if the Ukrainians did not shoot down the aircraft they still are guilty and should be held accountable for using civilian aircraft as shields. Just like i would be guilty if i used human shields in a crime. Again in case you missed it Ukrainian aircraft were accused of using civilian aircraft as cover, even before any airliners were shot down, then kiev said that it had no aircraft in the area of where the airliner was shot down, yet Russia released radar images that proved Kiev lied, to this day no one has been able to debunk the radar information.
 
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Ukraine shot down a Russian airliner about 15 years ago and denied it for a long time. I do not know who shot down the Malaysian airliner but Russia released some evidence in which implicates that Kiev lied that it did not have aircraft in the area. Even before the accident "Russian rebels" were on video complaining that Ukrainian military aircraft would use civilian aircraft as cover.

This means that even if the Ukrainians did not shoot down the aircraft they still are guilty and should be held accountable for using civilian aircraft as shields. Just like i would be guilty if i used human shields in a crime. Again in case you missed it Ukrainian aircraft were accused of using civilian aircraft as cover, even before any airliners were shot down, then kiev said that it had no aircraft in the area of where the airliner was shot down, yet Russia released radar images that proved Kiev lied, to this day no one has been able to debunk the radar information.
What evidence again? And how is Russia not a stakeholder?

can we see that photo ?
Dutch journalist claims evidence MH17 shot down by Russian BUK missile | Page 7
 
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What evidence again? And how is Russia not a stakeholder?
Questions and info released days after the accident by Russian MoD not enough for your "neutral"kind eh?They are not enough but from other side-every piece of "independent reports you and your "buddy Hundustani posted from Western MSM is enough for you to proof Russian fault.It is quite good idea to drop your double standards.

The evidence in which Russia held a press conference in which it revealed satellite and radar information.
In his mind that press conference do not exist.All other info discovered later-also do not exist for him.Don't waste your time with him.Just check his (and his friend Hundustani) posting history about MH 17 and see what kind of proof for Russian fault he is posting for almost 1 year.

Give it a rest,the whole world knew the Russians brought down that airliner
So why not your beloved war-criminals from USA do not release the information they have from AWACS and satellites to proof Russian fault then?What is stopping them?UN General assembly is good spot for your USA to release the information-but for almost 1 year they do nothing.
 
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The evidence in which Russia held a press conference in which it revealed satellite and radar information. Thereafter they released the information to investigators, or at least that is what i heard. But you can watch the press conference, it is in English.
Last time I checked, proper investigations aren't played out in the news media. If they release the infoprmation to the 2 teams of investigators, it will be taken into account, I would think. Still, the verdict is NEVER reached in the media. Even a simpleton can understand why.

Questions and info released days after the accident by Russian MoD not enough for your "neutral"kind eh?They are not enough but from other side-every piece of "independent reports you and your "buddy Hundustani posted from Western MSM is enough for you to proof Russian fault.It is quite good idea to drop your double standards.

Again, a proper investigation is not via the media. That's pretty Obvious. Applies to ANY air incident. It has nothing to do with whether or not it is good enough for me. Such remarks indicate only a limited understanding of how these things work. I have no stake in one outcome or another. All I know is that a collegue of mine and her husband and adopted child were brutally taken from this life. And, if at all possible, I want to see someone held accountable for that. Do you have a problem with that?
 
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Again, a proper investigation is not via the media.
Proper you say...none of the "independent reports" you posting for almost 1 year have absolutely nothing to do with proper.But you kept posting any and all of them - all of them put the blame of Russia ...without proper investigation.And now you are talking about proper...are you for real?Ah btw for you,your friend Hundustani and rest of your kind - Almaz Antei has also lots to say about who and how.Hopefully you know what kind of company is Almaz Antei and what they are producing right?Hopefully you and your friends will be able to find and watch the presentation...although I have my doubts in your collective ability to even check an info which goes against your supposedly "neutral"stance .
 
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Proper you say...none of the "independent reports" you posting for almost 1 year have absolutely nothing to do with proper.But you kept posting any and all of them - all of them put the blame of Russia ...without proper investigation.And now you are talking about proper...are you for real?Ah btw for you,your friend Hundustani and rest of your kind - Almaz Antei has also lots to say about who and how.Hopefully you know what kind of company is Almaz Antei and what they are producing right?Hopefully you and your friends will be able to find and watch the presentation...although I have my doubts in your collective ability to even check an info which goes against your supposedly "neutral"stance .
Bla bla bla. Cite those reports, cite my posts. I dare you.

As for Almaz Antey...
About "independent reports", you were saying?
 
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