Russia Declares the Su-57 Fighter "The Best in the World"

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

There is no point in rejoining, India will buy PAK FA only after certain commitments from Russian Air Force. At this moment, they thenselves are not buying it in numbers.

Su-35 is selling well and Russia don't need Su-57. They ain't fighting anyone. I think 10 Su-57 is more than enough for Russia air force.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

No fighter should be declared the "best" unless pitted against the PAF...

 

[mastaan]

Russia always talk big. But they are no match with Western countries w.r.t quality. Even India is preferring Rafale over Su30Mki. They have not good confidence in su30mkis.

India could buy (potentially) SU35 MLU upgrades for SU30MKIs (I published the link in the MKI thread) ... China is using SU27 and a licensed version of it, enmasse. Don’t think Russian designs are that irrelevant. Rafale has a different role. And the bigger question still is - will we buy more of them or something else?

SU57 and India - don’t think anyone else will offer such an advanced jet to India. So we will go back to this program. Am reasonably confident - though it is just a gut feel at this stage.

 

[GumNaam]

ok putin, whatever you say dude...

 

[Daghalodi]

India could buy (potentially) SU35 MLU upgrades for SU30MKIs (I published the link in the MKI thread) ... China is using SU27 and a licensed version of it, enmasse. Don’t think Russian designs are that irrelevant. Rafale has a different role. And the bigger question still is - will we buy more of them or something else?

SU57 and India - don’t think anyone else will offer such an advanced jet to India. So we will go back to this program. Am reasonably confident - though it is just a gut feel at this stage.

India needs a multi role medium aircraft!! Either work in tejas mk2 or rafales/typhoon

 

[GumNaam]

India needs a multi role medium aircraft!! Either work in tejas mk2 or rafales/typhoon

what "india" needs to do is just give it the hell up! they already have the best and still crashed n burned. its just not in them, their dna does NOT have what it takes...so they should just give it the hell up, they ain't the "supa powa" types...WE ARE!

 

[Daghalodi]

what "india" needs to do is just give it the hell up! they already have the best and still crashed n burned. its just not in them, their dna does NOT have what it takes...so they should just give it the hell up, they ain't the "supa powa" types...WE ARE!

Indian Generals are always talking about a two front war!! Operation Gagan Shakti was about neutralizing PAF first and than go after PLAAF!! Now the indian air chief is asking for rafales to save them!!

 

[GumNaam]

Indian Generals are always talking about a two front war!! Operation Gagan Shakti was about neutralizing PAF first and than go after PLAAF!! Now the indian air chief is asking for rafales to save them!!

PAF ko sambhaal nahi sak tay, PLAAF say larrein gey yeh bhootni key..."gagan shakti" my foot!

 

[Daghalodi]

PAF ko sambhaal nahi sak tay, PLAAF say larrein gey yeh bhootni key..."gagan shakti" my foot!

Israelis are helping them out!!

 

[GumNaam]

Israelis are helping them out!!

yeah, don't let the skill level of the israelis get to you bro, just look at who they have been up against...against Pakistani, Russian, Turkish and EU pilots, they are actually NOT all that special. but still better than their neighbors and indian pilots...

 

[Daghalodi]

yeah, don't let the skill level of the israelis get to you bro, just look at who they have been up against...against Pakistani, Russian, Turkish and EU pilots, they are actually NOT all that special. but still better than their neighbors and indian pilots...

Israeli Airforce is the best Airforce in the world. They scored more than Americans and PAF in F16 drills

 

[GumNaam]

Israeli Airforce is the best Airforce in the world. They scored more than Americans and PAF in F16 drills

you sure about that? they've never been able to bring Pakistani pilots down. and you KNOW that their drills with the americans are covered up...u.s. pilots won't give them a walk over, but the news of how badly the americans whooped the israelis won't make it out either.

having said that, agree that never EVER under estimate the enemy. I am convinced that PAF, PLAAF an TAF live by those words.

 

[Daghalodi]

you sure about that? they've never been able to bring Pakistani pilots down. and you KNOW that their drills with the americans are covered up...u.s. pilots won't give them a walk over, but the news of how badly the americans whooped the israelis won't make it out either.

Buddy!! They dont need to bring down Pakistani pilots to score good in f16 drills!!

Alot of countries operate F16 including United State airforce and they conduct drills for every Airforce operating f16!! Israeli pilots always top it up!! Its no surprise

 

[GumNaam]

Buddy!! They dont need to bring down Pakistani pilots to score good in f16 drills!!

Alot of countries operate F16 including United State airforce and they conduct drills for every Airforce operating f16!! Israeli pilots always top it up!! Its no surprise

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israeli-pilots-trained-with-pakistan-uae-1.5433455

you do know that isrealis HAVE flown with PAF F-16s, right? although the isrealis don't speak much about that experience, I can tell you that PAF pilots were NOT impressed, did NOT match the reputation floating around them...

 

[Daghalodi]

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israeli-pilots-trained-with-pakistan-uae-1.5433455

you do know that isrealis HAVE flown with PAF F-16s, right? although the isrealis don't speak much about that experience, I can tell you that PAF pilots were NOT impressed, did NOT match the reputation floating around them...

Like seriously!!! Wow

Paf pilots were not impressed!! LoL