Russia completed the delivery of four Mi-35 combat helicopters to Pakistan

[Zarvan]

Are you talking about AH-1Z viper??

@Tipu7 has already given enough hint

 

[BetterPakistan]

@Tipu7 has already given enough hint

You mean 4 + 3 is delivered from both countries?

 

[kenyannoobie]

I mean no offense to all Global Analysts and Defense commandos from whatever nationality
these 4 helicopters provide a small and limited support to a very specific role which is counter terrorism and anti narcostics

I repeat again.. these helicopters wont be used to invade America or Uganda so please come back to planet earth

Exactly! Its has a very specific role as aerial battle taxi,a DAP,Direct Action Penetrator,meaning it'll go where conventional MI 17s and Pumas wouldn't dare. We'll be sure when we know exactly which units receive it:your aircav equivalent would mean it serves as purely gunship while SSG means its a DAP.
Does anyone know who exactly?

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Ideally we need about 50 Mi-35M models , split across the 4 provinces = 12.5
Anychance we can redirect the funds from the cencelled 18 F16 planes to get may be 20-26 Mi-35M ordered

 

[Slides]

Ideally we need about 50 Mi-35M models , split across the 4 provinces = 12.5
Anychance we can redirect the funds from the cencelled 18 F16 planes to get may be 20-26 Mi-35M ordered

50 Mi-35's? Are you out of your mind? What an enormous waste of money. 4 is a good number for what it will be used for. 6 would be ideal. They are to be used on special missions for the SSG and when other types of aviation assets can't get into due to a hot LZ.

50 would be a huge waste of resources. They're good for COIN but won't last long in a modern battlefield with SAMs.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

We have 1/2 Million Soldiers and 4 helicopter do the math , we need at least 100-150 Units and spares in our facilities

Troop strength Google random figure
--------- Active Duty------------- Total reserve
Army--------550,000 -------------------500,000
Navy--------22,000----------------------5,000
Air Force----45,000----------------------8,000
Paramilitary--420,000-------------------0

Population figures of 180,000,000 Million People (who could technically join up armed forces )

When we look at our general armed forces structure , it makes sense to have more Helicopters
100-150 figure for gunship is quite normal figure these days

Mi-35M is both a gunship and carrier Chopper duel purpose fits the bill perfectly

We neglected the Gunship department from 1980's , 1990's and 2000 and 2010 mostly
Almost after 30-38 years we have bothered to induct a proper machine in Gunship category


The Cobras were already quite outdated just ok get by solution

 

[khanasifm]

https://www.defensenews.com/air/2015/08/21/pakistan-finalizes-hind-deal-with-russia/


"Post 2001, the Pak Army pushed to purchase Mi-35 because it has a lot of common engineering features with Mi-17, which they have more than 60."

Even airforce has now mi-17 in csar role with 4/5 heli sqn

 

[Super Falcon]

Pakistan should consider naval equipment from Russia as well and most importantly air defence system from Russia

Pak air Force is low in air defence with initial order of PANTSIR S1 for 35 batteries for airforce and 20 for Pak Marines will sharpen both the teeth of navy Marines and airforce for low to medium air defence umbrella and 5 batteries of S 350 system is very important defending our naval shores and gwadar and 2 new FRIGATES will do world of good to form some sort of trust

If pakistan play well these toys are easy to get
If turkey can get after shooting Russian jet S 400 why can't we

 

[Zarvan]

We have 1/2 Million Soldiers and 4 helicopter do the math , we need at least 100-150 Units and spares in our facilities

Troop strength Google random figure
--------- Active Duty------------- Total reserve
Army--------550,000 -------------------500,000
Navy--------22,000----------------------5,000
Air Force----45,000----------------------8,000
Paramilitary--420,000-------------------0

Population figures of 180,000,000 Million People (who could technically join up armed forces )

When we look at our general armed forces structure , it makes sense to have more Helicopters
100-150 figure for gunship is quite normal figure these days

Mi-35M is both a gunship and carrier Chopper duel purpose fits the bill perfectly

We neglected the Gunship department from 1980's , 1990's and 2000 and 2010 mostly
Almost after 30-38 years we have bothered to induct a proper machine in Gunship category


The Cobras were already quite outdated just ok get by solution

Your entire assumption is based on wrong facts

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Well not wrong assumption

1,000,000 Milion soldiers so logically you would think Greater number of gunships are needed to protect them from air for ground operation support

If you are going against other elements like rouge elements on ground you need good number of gunship to give maximum protection

Specially the soldiers who are stationed no Hill Tops and other sensitive areas you need good number of gunships available


We have need for Gunships in all 4 provinces

• Eastern front (Sindh / Punjab /Kashmir) threat from traditional Enemy India
• Western front (Baluchistan / KPK) threat from Terrorism

Incidents like the one where US rouge troops shot missile at Pakistani Checkpost at hill top in our land must never be allowed to be repeated

 

[StraightShooter]

Big win for Pakistan.

Clear signal which way the Russian winds are blowing.

Russia has decided to support Pakistan at the expense of its relations with India.

This is a watershed moment.

 

[Shane]

Big win for Pakistan.

Clear signal which way the Russian winds are blowing.

Russia has decided to support Pakistan at the expense of its relations with India.

This is a watershed moment.

Not really as of now. Russia had earlier decided to join the whirlwind of western arms sales to both India and Pakistan simply by lifting its restrictions on arms sales. It's just a matter of cash upfront. We are at the lower end of the spectrum simply due to our own financial predicament.

It's not at the expense of anyone nor anything to do with any love lost on either side. Consider China and India with respect to Russian arms sales and it becomes crystal, beyond argument.

 

[Hassan Guy]

What we should be doing is building our own attack helicopters after these.

 

[blinder]

This one was seen on a pre-delivery tesflight in August in Russia. It is not for Mali; they have a slightly different scheme. So who knows....
I would figure that dark green is more logical (like the AH-1F / AH-1Z).

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

Mi-35 --> Flying Tank