Russia, China block bid by Western powers to impose UN sanctions on Syria
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Americans and British knew there was no consensus among permanent members and still forced the voting. They are turning this serious international cooperation mechanism into a show business. They should just man up and leave the UN.
Nothing strange. The west has screwed up the Syria and now Russia has the upper hand. The west is just whining and bitching in UN security council.
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When you want to become a super power the only place from where you will get that identification is middle east. USA and NATO forces have lost the hold over middle east. it is now divided.
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ok, will do..
just wondering though, is it really offtopic? wars are started, or stopped, by influencing men and often women and children too, afterall.
i'm gonna do a bit of 'daytime work' / my regular job, at least a few hours worth,
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posting the leading song now, which i hope will widen your view on what ever your mind is at now (and in the future).. this one is about what you leave behind for the future, *other than how to rule eachother*.
moderators, no pun, *i* just happen to think this youtube video & video-list are on-topic and without side-effects.
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The west did it on purpose and there are many things behind it. Russia is being allowed with intent but UN is a cover up coz when u know it will fail then why push it in the first place?
Russia has somehow convinced China that it's about a fight against west which laughable as it's not. The whole ISIS game and Syria including ME will again become desert and west just wants that.
The theory is, Russia and China will be blamed. Either way it's a win for west.
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no really. what the west is doing is to direct blame to russia and china for their own believers. they dont have the whole world as their believers.
china is pissed off because china tries to preserve UN, within which china has much benefited, but the west is sabotaging UN mechanism.
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Yes, times of unipolar chaos have passed. Now, if the West wants to destroy one country or another, they will not be able to hide behind a veneer of legitimacy anymore.
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There will be an audience. Just think about what I'm saying. It's an audience that can believe everything and it's the second largest religion in the world.
For them it doesn't matter and it doesn't matter for Russians too.
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Video of China's UN envoy goes viral on social media
Xinhua | 2017-03-04
Liu Jieyi (right), China's permanent representative to the UN speaks after the UN Security Council failed to adopt a draft resolution aiming to establish a sanctions regime over use of chemicals weapons in Syria, with UK, U.S. diplomats (left, up and down respectively) present, at the UN headquarters in New York, on Feb. 28, 2017.
UNITED NATIONS, March 4 (Xinhua) -- In recent days, a video clip of Chinese UN envoy's rebuttal against criticisms of China's veto of a UN draft resolution on Syria has gone viral over the Internet and social media.
China and Russia voted Tuesday against a Western-backed draft UN resolution aiming to impose sanctions over alleged use of chemical weapons in Syria.
Matthew Rycroft, Britain's permanent preventative to the UN, blasted the veto as a move that "undermines confidence in the international community's ability to tackle flagrant violations of international law." His words were later echoed by senior diplomats from the United States and Japan in separate remarks.
In a seven-minute defense of China's vote, Liu Jieyi, China's permanent preventative to the UN, told the council that investigations on the use of chemical weapons are still ongoing and "it is too early to reach a final conclusion."
He said the council should support the joint inquiry to carry out its investigations in a professional manner and make conclusions with accurate, detailed and solid evidence.
"We oppose the use of chemical weapons by any state, any organization and any individual under any circumstance," he added.
The senior Chinese diplomat also went off his prepared statement, and urged that "some countries should reflect on why the situation in the Middle East and Syria has developed to what it is today."
"What roles have these countries played? Which acts are gracious and which are not?"
There was plenty of social media response from around the world to China's stance.
Njagi Muchangi from Kenya posed on Facebook that it is "the best response by the Chinese diplomat, hope others understand the deep meaning in that statement."
Predrag Lazic from Serbia posted on Facebook, "Congratulations to China and Russia on their consistent behavior."
The resolution, if adopted, would have imposed asset freezes and travel bans on individuals and entities associated with the Syrian government based on allegations of chemical weapon attacks made by a joint probe of the UN and the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons.
The vote came when a new round of intra-Syrian peace talks in Geneva is underway.
Russian Deputy Ambassador Vladimir Safronkov said the draft was put to a vote based on a doctrine of western states in spite of the efforts taken in Geneva to settle the Syrian crisis.
"We see this as an attempt to retard and undermine the current political and diplomatic efforts," he said.
The draft resolution would also have banned the supply of helicopters to the Syrian government. Safronkov said the measure would undermine counter-terrorism as well as humanitarian relief efforts in Syria.
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Xinhua | 2017-03-04
Liu Jieyi (right), China's permanent representative to the UN speaks after the UN Security Council failed to adopt a draft resolution aiming to establish a sanctions regime over use of chemicals weapons in Syria, with UK, U.S. diplomats (left, up and down respectively) present, at the UN headquarters in New York, on Feb. 28, 2017.
UNITED NATIONS, March 4 (Xinhua) -- In recent days, a video clip of Chinese UN envoy's rebuttal against criticisms of China's veto of a UN draft resolution on Syria has gone viral over the Internet and social media.
China and Russia voted Tuesday against a Western-backed draft UN resolution aiming to impose sanctions over alleged use of chemical weapons in Syria.
Matthew Rycroft, Britain's permanent preventative to the UN, blasted the veto as a move that "undermines confidence in the international community's ability to tackle flagrant violations of international law." His words were later echoed by senior diplomats from the United States and Japan in separate remarks.
In a seven-minute defense of China's vote, Liu Jieyi, China's permanent preventative to the UN, told the council that investigations on the use of chemical weapons are still ongoing and "it is too early to reach a final conclusion."
He said the council should support the joint inquiry to carry out its investigations in a professional manner and make conclusions with accurate, detailed and solid evidence.
"We oppose the use of chemical weapons by any state, any organization and any individual under any circumstance," he added.
The senior Chinese diplomat also went off his prepared statement, and urged that "some countries should reflect on why the situation in the Middle East and Syria has developed to what it is today."
"What roles have these countries played? Which acts are gracious and which are not?"
There was plenty of social media response from around the world to China's stance.
Njagi Muchangi from Kenya posed on Facebook that it is "the best response by the Chinese diplomat, hope others understand the deep meaning in that statement."
Predrag Lazic from Serbia posted on Facebook, "Congratulations to China and Russia on their consistent behavior."
The resolution, if adopted, would have imposed asset freezes and travel bans on individuals and entities associated with the Syrian government based on allegations of chemical weapon attacks made by a joint probe of the UN and the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons.
The vote came when a new round of intra-Syrian peace talks in Geneva is underway.
Russian Deputy Ambassador Vladimir Safronkov said the draft was put to a vote based on a doctrine of western states in spite of the efforts taken in Geneva to settle the Syrian crisis.
"We see this as an attempt to retard and undermine the current political and diplomatic efforts," he said.
The draft resolution would also have banned the supply of helicopters to the Syrian government. Safronkov said the measure would undermine counter-terrorism as well as humanitarian relief efforts in Syria.
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Here is the real deal...
The US does not need the UN to install a sanction regime on Syria.
When you go the UN, you are seeking group approval. You want as much and as great assurance as possible that your cause, be it an economic sanction regime or delivering food to starving people, is just and deserving of participation by as many as possible.
If you fail to convince and regardless of that failure, if in your mind you still feel your cause is just, you can proceed on whatever path you chose. Group approval and participation have benefits. You can share the burden of execution, for example. You can dilute the blame if something goes wrong.
The US does not need the UN to install a sanction regime on Syria.
When you go the UN, you are seeking group approval. You want as much and as great assurance as possible that your cause, be it an economic sanction regime or delivering food to starving people, is just and deserving of participation by as many as possible.
If you fail to convince and regardless of that failure, if in your mind you still feel your cause is just, you can proceed on whatever path you chose. Group approval and participation have benefits. You can share the burden of execution, for example. You can dilute the blame if something goes wrong.
