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Russia can withstand Western sanctions after years of preparation: Chinese analysts
By GT staff reporters Published: Feb 22, 2022 08:16 PM

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Russia has strong capacity and resilience to withstand US and EU sanctions, as its economy - which has been buffering the impact of sanctions for years - is not outward-looking, and it has been diversifying its energy exports from Europe, a process that won't encounter difficulties amid global energy shortages, Chinese analysts said on Tuesday, as tensions are running high between Russia and Ukraine and the West.

But they also suggested that Russia needs to prepare for being cut off from SWIFT, which has been described as a "nuclear option" in sanctions packages that could deprive it of 40 percent of its revenue from energy exports and have long-term repercussions on its economy, even though the likelihood of such a move is extremely slim.

After Russian President Vladimir Putin on Monday signed two decrees recognizing "the Lugansk People's Republic (LPR)" and "the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR)" as independent and sovereign states, the US and Europe announced immediate sanctions against Russia.

US President Joe Biden issued an executive order on Monday to "prohibit new investment, trade, and financing by US persons to, from, or in the so-called DNR and LNR regions of Ukraine." The EU's top officials said the bloc will impose more sanctions against those involved in the recognition of LPR and DPR.

This marks the first wave of sanctions against Russia from the West after tensions between Russia and Ukraine flared for months. Biden has pledged that Russia will face "swift, severe and unified" consequences from the US and its allies.

The sanctions sent global stocks and the ruble tumbling. The Russian RTS index, which tracks the 50 top Russian stocks in US dollar terms on the Moscow Stock Exchange, was down as much as 17 percent on Monday.

The decline continued and narrowed to 8 percent on Tuesday, after Russia's central bank said "it was ready to take all necessary measures to support financial stability."

Chinese observers said that the sanctions so far are more symbolic than anything likely to inflict substantial harm on the local economy, and capital market moves reflect transitory investor nervousness.

"The first batch of sanctions is not targeted at either specific industries or the core of the Russian economy, so the impact is minimal," Cui Hongjian, director of the Department of European Studies at the China Institute of International Studies, told the Global Times on Tuesday.

Cui said that the follow-up measures, if they will be taken as threatened, could be more concrete and wide-ranging, involving energy, finance and military dimensions.

The Biden administration has proposed expanding a new technology export ban and cutting off Russian companies' access to dollars, Reuters reported.

On Sunday, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen warned that Russia would "in principle be cut off from the international financial markets" and denied access to major exporting goods if it "attacks Ukraine."

In several interviews, von der Leyen also hinted at the possibility of imposing sanctions on Russia gas giant Gazprom and targeted the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline connecting Russia to Germany.

Europe imports around 40 percent of its gas supply from Gazprom and Russia is one of the world's largest oil and natural gas producers.

Global oil prices rose on fears that the Ukraine situation would disrupt global supplies. The price of benchmark Brent crude reached a seven-year high of $97.76 a barrel on Tuesday.

Observers said it would be a mission impossible for Europe to shed its overreliance on Russia's natural gas, considering the persisting global shortage. Such ability also depends on the extent to which the US is able to replace Russia's natural gas exports, Cui said.

Russia has been making diversification efforts to explore alternative markets. For example, Russia used to mainly export products to Europe, but now its exports to China, like oil and natural gas, are also rising in scale.

In February, China National Petroleum Corp (CNPC) and Russia's Gazprom signed an agreement on the purchase and sale of gas from the Russian Far East, and under the agreement, Russia will increase gas exports to China to 48 billion cubic meters (bcm) per year.

Cui said that the US' potential new tech export ban may restrict the supply of raw materials and equipment to Russia's military, aerospace and energy sectors.

"But the West has blacklisted Russian military and high-tech enterprises since 2014. So it remains unclear that the US could leverage its embargo to heap pressure on Russia," Li Jianmin, a research fellow at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, told the Global Times.

As to whether the US will play the ace card of removing Russia from the SWIFT system, which has serious implications for its foreign trade, Cui said that "the West is deeply divided" on this issue due to Europe's immense trade volume with Russia, partly driven by energy.

Li said that Russia has long been taking steps against such a possible move, including avoiding the US dollar in some trade settlements, and clearing US debts and its foreign reserves. Russia has developed an alternative messaging system called SPFS since 2014, which now reportedly handles about one-fifth of its domestic payments.

"Russia has been running pressure tests of how its economy would run in extreme cases, which must have included being cut off from links to the outside. But even in such a case, Russia is able to secure its own supplies as it has a large territory and ample resources," Li explained.

Cui agreed, noting that Russia's reliance on the external market is "limited" except for the energy and military sectors, which speaks volume to its ability to offset the fallout of Western sanctions.

In 2021, Russia's GDP grew 4.7 percent, the fastest in more than a decade, due to a surge in oil prices and consumption expenditures.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202202/1252900.shtml
 
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Russia and China have been under sanctions for decades. After the initial adjustment period, you get used to sanctions.

Iran has been under sanctions since 1979 including the most severe sanctions the West can impose during the 2010s and yet the Iranian economy is now the 17th largest economy in the world in nominal GDP and 23rd in PPP GDP.

West is not as powerful as it used to be in previous decades.
 
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After recognizing the two republics in eastern Ukraine, Russia's goal should be to encircle and suppress the main force of the front-line defense force in eastern Ukraine and the Nazi militia. Then capture the Kharkov region. At present, the international situation is still insufficient to support the Russian army to advance to the Dnieper River. After this war, Russia should continue to wait for five to ten years.
Five to ten years later, Russia's next goal should be Запоро́жье, then to completely control the area north of the sea of Azov. Cover the Black Sea fleet through the Crimean south line and Krasnodar border area, and then reach a settlement with Turkey. In this case, the three Baltic countries will inevitably feel deterrence, so as to stabilize the situation in Belarus.

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Russia can withstand Western sanctions after years of preparation: Chinese analysts
By GT staff reporters Published: Feb 22, 2022 08:16 PM

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Russia has strong capacity and resilience to withstand US and EU sanctions, as its economy - which has been buffering the impact of sanctions for years - is not outward-looking, and it has been diversifying its energy exports from Europe, a process that won't encounter difficulties amid global energy shortages, Chinese analysts said on Tuesday, as tensions are running high between Russia and Ukraine and the West.

But they also suggested that Russia needs to prepare for being cut off from SWIFT, which has been described as a "nuclear option" in sanctions packages that could deprive it of 40 percent of its revenue from energy exports and have long-term repercussions on its economy, even though the likelihood of such a move is extremely slim.

After Russian President Vladimir Putin on Monday signed two decrees recognizing "the Lugansk People's Republic (LPR)" and "the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR)" as independent and sovereign states, the US and Europe announced immediate sanctions against Russia.

US President Joe Biden issued an executive order on Monday to "prohibit new investment, trade, and financing by US persons to, from, or in the so-called DNR and LNR regions of Ukraine." The EU's top officials said the bloc will impose more sanctions against those involved in the recognition of LPR and DPR.

This marks the first wave of sanctions against Russia from the West after tensions between Russia and Ukraine flared for months. Biden has pledged that Russia will face "swift, severe and unified" consequences from the US and its allies.

The sanctions sent global stocks and the ruble tumbling. The Russian RTS index, which tracks the 50 top Russian stocks in US dollar terms on the Moscow Stock Exchange, was down as much as 17 percent on Monday.

The decline continued and narrowed to 8 percent on Tuesday, after Russia's central bank said "it was ready to take all necessary measures to support financial stability."

Chinese observers said that the sanctions so far are more symbolic than anything likely to inflict substantial harm on the local economy, and capital market moves reflect transitory investor nervousness.

"The first batch of sanctions is not targeted at either specific industries or the core of the Russian economy, so the impact is minimal," Cui Hongjian, director of the Department of European Studies at the China Institute of International Studies, told the Global Times on Tuesday.

Cui said that the follow-up measures, if they will be taken as threatened, could be more concrete and wide-ranging, involving energy, finance and military dimensions.

The Biden administration has proposed expanding a new technology export ban and cutting off Russian companies' access to dollars, Reuters reported.

On Sunday, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen warned that Russia would "in principle be cut off from the international financial markets" and denied access to major exporting goods if it "attacks Ukraine."

In several interviews, von der Leyen also hinted at the possibility of imposing sanctions on Russia gas giant Gazprom and targeted the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline connecting Russia to Germany.

Europe imports around 40 percent of its gas supply from Gazprom and Russia is one of the world's largest oil and natural gas producers.

Global oil prices rose on fears that the Ukraine situation would disrupt global supplies. The price of benchmark Brent crude reached a seven-year high of $97.76 a barrel on Tuesday.

Observers said it would be a mission impossible for Europe to shed its overreliance on Russia's natural gas, considering the persisting global shortage. Such ability also depends on the extent to which the US is able to replace Russia's natural gas exports, Cui said.

Russia has been making diversification efforts to explore alternative markets. For example, Russia used to mainly export products to Europe, but now its exports to China, like oil and natural gas, are also rising in scale.

In February, China National Petroleum Corp (CNPC) and Russia's Gazprom signed an agreement on the purchase and sale of gas from the Russian Far East, and under the agreement, Russia will increase gas exports to China to 48 billion cubic meters (bcm) per year.

Cui said that the US' potential new tech export ban may restrict the supply of raw materials and equipment to Russia's military, aerospace and energy sectors.

"But the West has blacklisted Russian military and high-tech enterprises since 2014. So it remains unclear that the US could leverage its embargo to heap pressure on Russia," Li Jianmin, a research fellow at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, told the Global Times.

As to whether the US will play the ace card of removing Russia from the SWIFT system, which has serious implications for its foreign trade, Cui said that "the West is deeply divided" on this issue due to Europe's immense trade volume with Russia, partly driven by energy.

Li said that Russia has long been taking steps against such a possible move, including avoiding the US dollar in some trade settlements, and clearing US debts and its foreign reserves. Russia has developed an alternative messaging system called SPFS since 2014, which now reportedly handles about one-fifth of its domestic payments.

"Russia has been running pressure tests of how its economy would run in extreme cases, which must have included being cut off from links to the outside. But even in such a case, Russia is able to secure its own supplies as it has a large territory and ample resources," Li explained.

Cui agreed, noting that Russia's reliance on the external market is "limited" except for the energy and military sectors, which speaks volume to its ability to offset the fallout of Western sanctions.

In 2021, Russia's GDP grew 4.7 percent, the fastest in more than a decade, due to a surge in oil prices and consumption expenditures.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202202/1252900.shtml

In my view the key part of this article is where the SPFS financial messaging system, is mentioned. Which in itself offers the world an alternative to swift messaging system. Those countries that are willing to exercise their sovereign right to conduct their foreign policy and trade, ought to sign up to the SPFS.

Pakistan should give SPFS a serious study and look to joining the financial messaging system of the Russian Federation. This affords any country to conduct trade without having Western Sanctions hanging over their heads.

The Russian SPFS and Chinese AIIB are formidable alternatives that allow countries to diversify and expand the scope of their trade. It stops the West from using it's sanctions as a mafia extortion tool, as it has been using increasingly so, for the last 30 or more years.
 
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Sanctions aren’t as effective as people hype it up to be. You can circumvent sanctions easily using third parties. Iran has been excellent at sourcing sanctioned technology using third parties. It’s impossible to track technology products final destination. It’s an inherent weakness of sanctions.

Since those technologies are ‘officially’ banned, the IP is also null and avoid and won’t be enforced so domestic companies can reverse engineer to make your own domestic equivalent.

West banned oil and gas extraction equipment technology to Russia in 2014 and Russia simply made their own technology and became self-sufficient. These Western companies lost the Russian market and now have to deal with a another competitor in the global market.

Russian companies were banned from raising financing from Western financial markets, Russian companies switched to raising financing from Hong Kong, Shanghai and Shenzhen financial markets.
 
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It's not about survival. It's about staying up. Russia cannot pursue its political ambitions in isolation from most of the world and relying solely on China.

Europe needs Russia, Russia needs Europe. I hope this deadlock can be resolved. A new cold war would be costly to both Europe and Russia.
 
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It's not about survival. It's about staying up. Russia cannot pursue its political ambitions in isolation from most of the world and relying solely on China.

Europe needs Russia, Russia needs Europe. I hope this deadlock can be resolved. A new cold war would be costly to both Europe and Russia.
Will the sanctions last with the rise of China?
 
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Will the sanctions last with the rise of China?
Maybe.

But let me explain why I hold this view. TR and Russia do not share common interests on many issues. And, you know the policies of Europe towards TR. However, it is important for the balance of the next century that these centers remain as independent structures (or become independent). The US should descend, but not be replaced by another similar equation. I think that any kind of consolidation will prevent the world from reaching a multipolar structure. From my own position and our geopolitic risks, I hold the idea that the consequences created by the bipolar and unipolar world order are always very dangerous and destructive, and so yes, I'm not supporter of US-China consolidation.

Look at the consequences of the Ukrainian tension; They're breaking off Germany's energy lines. The US military presence in Eastern Europe is growing rapidly. The US is rekindling its weakening influence in Europe. They are turning back to cold war conditions.

On the other hand; Russia is a traditional powerhouse. If its relationship with China falls to the level of 'needy', this could weaken or mostly pasifizied Russia's Eurasia design.
 
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It's not about survival. It's about staying up. Russia cannot pursue its political ambitions in isolation from most of the world and relying solely on China.

Europe needs Russia, Russia needs Europe. I hope this deadlock can be resolved. A new cold war would be costly to both Europe and Russia.
Western Europe needs to realize that Russia does not see them as an enemy if NATO stopped expanding and trying to destabilize former Soviet blocs. France understands this to some extent and is probably the friendliest possible western power towards the Kremlin, but Germany and everyone else are vehemently US allies. Understandable, since modern Europe was built on the financial aid of Americans after WW2.

But Europeans have to come out of that old mindset and develop their own narrative that offers a fresh, independent perspective rather than what the White House says.
 
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Maybe.

But let me explain why I hold this view. TR and Russia do not share common interests on many issues. And, you know the policies of Europe towards TR. However, it is important for the balance of the next century that these centers remain as independent structures (or become independent). The US should descend, but not be replaced by another similar equation. I think that any kind of consolidation will prevent the world from reaching a multipolar structure. From my own position and our geopolitic risks, I hold the idea that the consequences created by the bipolar and unipolar world order are always very dangerous and destructive, and so yes, I'm not supporter of US-China consolidation.

Look at the consequences of the Ukrainian tension; They're breaking off Germany's energy lines. The US military presence in Eastern Europe is growing rapidly. The US is rekindling its weakening influence in Europe. They are turning back to cold war conditions.

On the other hand; Russia is a traditional powerhouse. If its relationship with China falls to the level of 'needy', this could weaken or mostly pasifizied Russia's Eurasia design.
It depends my friend.

Soviets for example preferred quantity over quality and if Russia wanted to return to Soviets era then nothing can stop them given the fact that Russians can withstand economic pressure. USA will gradually retreat and Russians will advance inch by inch using their quantitative advantage.

That is because USA naturally never participates in a war unless they had 1 to thousand advantage. They will not go to war with Russia directly, obviously even if they had full support of NATO member states. Americans prefer to use Europeans as cannon fodders till weakening both Russians and Europeans by bleeding them to death. It is not in interest of EU to make problems with Russians but a God sent gift to Americans which could provide Americans with a good opportunity to force Russians into negotiations.

Americans on one hand face multiple challenges in west of Asia, Iran will not lose a single chance to bleed them. If they don't leave then they will have to wait on its grave consequences. Same goes on in South China sea, USA is tolerating a heavy price in confrontation with the Chinese.

This issue that Russians are raising their shields and prepare for any kind of scenario doesn't mean that it will give Chinese or Iranians a chance to take the advantage but a great opportunity for Chinese and Iranian side to kick Americans out of their backyards.

That is why American think tanks are afraid of Iran-Russia-China collaboration.
 
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but Germany and everyone else are vehemently US allies.
Let's ignore the historical perspective, but despite all the difficulties, the German-Russian realpolitik was somehow advancing. Germany's situation is more complex than that of France. Despite that, they have a much higher trade volume than France, I think you're being unfair. While the French took over the command of the NATO VJTF (the element that will intervene first in the event of war), the Germans were one of the last countries in arms aid to Ukraine for a long time. They even did not allow to go to Ukraine last month that the self-propelled howitzers of one of Baltic countries because German engines.

In fact, take a look at this:
 
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Germany are US ally on the surface. Deep below the scion of Junkers hate Jews for destroying their countries 2 times over. Germans are bidding for their time.
 
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Western Europe needs to realize that Russia does not see them as an enemy if NATO stopped expanding and trying to destabilize former Soviet blocs. France understands this to some extent and is probably the friendliest possible western power towards the Kremlin, but Germany and everyone else are vehemently US allies. Understandable, since modern Europe was built on the financial aid of Americans after WW2.

But Europeans have to come out of that old mindset and develop their own narrative that offers a fresh, independent perspective rather than what the White House says.

I know US and EU position in this conflict. But what about India? What is your position in this conflict?
 
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