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Russia army may be recalled into Afghanistan

Well well well, look who’s in town!

Russians and the Iranians, wow! who would have thought this whole WoT would take such drastic turns.

Supply routes will see a dramatic turnaround, Pakistan played its trump card on supply routes just a little too early in the day. A tactical blunder!
With these two new players in the field I have no doubts the PA is going to be under some real intense pressure to get going against the haqqani’s, the hekmatyar’s and the afghan Taliban and will we see a sudden change in events with an official statement from PA that they are heading the north Waziristan way, I say watch the space closely. Interesting times ahead.
Northen Alliance will start calling the shots yet again.

Did I read Hillary Clintoy say Amreica has no problems with Iran's Bushehr Nuclear Reactor, boy times are changing at some speed may I add!

As far as india is concerned, we will wait and watch a little longer to see how all this pans out, possibly wait for the December review and see how does the USA wants this thing to be played out.

Abhi picture baki hai mere dost!

Yup, ahbi to interval bhi nahi aaya hai!

My guess is that the CIA and others are trying intense backchannel negotiations with Iran regime, and I won't be surprised if they become best friends soon, and if companies like GE start building nuclear reactors in Iran!

And of course, supplies will move through Iran into Afghanistan then!
 
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looks like you indians didn't even read the two articles posted by Gunner and your already counting your chickens before they hatch.:disagree:
 
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Yup, ahbi to interval bhi nahi aaya hai!

My guess is that the CIA and others are trying intense backchannel negotiations with Iran regime, and I won't be surprised if they become best friends soon, and if companies like GE start building nuclear reactors in Iran!

And of course, supplies will move through Iran into Afghanistan then!

there is an arab angle to all this, who have their concerns about a nuclear iran so we wont see the amricans completely doling out all the goodies for the iranians but iranians will get to play a role in a'stan and it seems they are already on board. some in the USA/NATO/arab world had a problem with iran joining in and so that leak was made on afghan president getting money from the iranians but washington did not let it become mountain off a mole hill, which is very unlike the americans, this just tells us a story!

iran is yet again emerging a serious regional player, they have the saudis encircled, and now they are increasing their influence in a'stan.

for the arabs the americans will continue to play for the gallery with regards iran nuke issue just to keep their fears at bay but on surface a lot is changing, possibly a lot of concessions for them.

russia's sudden love for the NATO has a chinese angle and its wish to play a bigger role in CAR and parts of south asia and they always wanted a direct sea route to this side of the world and with them back in a'stan certainly is pointers to that.

for me pakistan made a blunder which they should have never made but then this is not something new for them, they keep doing it again and again and history is just repeating itself!
 
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Russians wont set their foot in Afghanistan..West has started it, they have to finish it. Afghanistan is too f****** up to get involved...No one can understand their tribal rules other than them.. And since they are probably one of the best fighters in world, its impossible to win there. Russians have learnt their lesson last time. they wont try it again.
 
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Guys, Russians don't need to physically move into Afghanistan any longer. Though Soviet empire collapsed, Russia still maintains military bases and observatories in Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, from where they can keep an eagle's eye on the entire scenario. I won't be surprised if FSB and GRU are already taking a keen interest on this matter.

Those who're thinking that Russians will not get ENTIRELY involved are not correct. Though fighting will be done by the West, Russia will definitely play behind the scenes like India is. Taliban is as much a headache for Russians as they are for us or for NATO countries. Just 2 weeks back, a south Russian market was rattled by a suicide attack that reports have suggested has a potential link to the troubled region.

After noting the disasters they faced 20 years ago, Kremlin will do its nut to prevent a now-more-internationalized-Taliban-AQ nexus to become powerful. CAR except Uzbekistan is no match in military capabilities to these terrorists and will rapidly fall. Uzbekistan already has radical Islamist terror groups plotting attacks. Russia's the only country in that entire group of countries capable of any serious fighting beyond Afghanistan's north. Hearing this news, I am wondering if the recent joint counter terror drill we had with them in mountains in Uttarakhand has something to do with this or not. Because Russians know their weakness and that is mountain warfare. Both in USSR and Chechn anti-terror wars, their troops faced the same demon--mountains. If at all they're planning to get involved even if not in combat, they still need backup and that's high altitude counter terror exercises.

If Russia does come even around Afghanistan, we should use this as a new ray of hope and get serious about our projects there even more because considering the unreliable attitude of Western alliances ("moderate" taliban talks issue, remember?), we might not get a better chance than this to get our work done and establish an influence even as a soft power.
 
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Russia wouldn't do that. hell, they have NO reason to that.
 
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India's all weather friend has actually decided to keep India out. Russian sponsered Afghan summit in Sochi did not invite indian participation!
 
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Even if the Russian angle serves as a new supply route for NATO...that itself could change the entire equation I think....

I definitely dont think the Russians will get involved militarily....but they will charge an arm and a leg for NATO supply.....

The US having seen Pakistan's fickle nature and "blackmailing" attitude (something I commend the Pakistani leadership for) is hounding to find new routes.....this may just be one of the options being explored..
 
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ah here come the russians knocking baby and this is just the beginning!

Russia, US conduct joint Afghan drug raid - Telegraph

Russia, US conduct joint Afghan drug raid

Russia and the United States destroyed four drug laboratories in their first joint anti-drug operation in Afghanistan, Russia's top drug control official has revealed.

Viktor Ivanov said the unprecedented joint operation hit four laboratories near the border with Pakistan, caused up to $1 billion in damage to the wider drug trade

Mr Ivanov says they seized up to 200 million doses of heroin.

Leaders of the Cold War enemies believe cooperation in Afghanistan can expand as both countries concentrate on terrorism and drug exports.

So far it has mostly been limited to Russia providing its territory for U.S. military transit.

The raid destroyed three heroin labs and one morphine lab, which were located about three miles from the Pakistan border at an important drug trafficking crossroads, Ivanov said.

Russia frequently slams what it describes as slack anti-drug policies of US and
NATO forces in Afghanistan, leading to an increased flow of drugs into Russia via Central Asian countries.

Mr Ivanov travelled to Washington last week to discuss co-operation in fighting drug trafficking and accused the United States of failing to destroy heroin laboratories and crack down on poppy-growing land owners.

Russian drug control authorities have estimated that 30,000 Russians died in 2009 as a result of using heroin from Afghanistan, and a million have died over the last decade.

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Russia and Nato plan joint initiative in Afghanistan - Telegraph

Russia and Nato plan joint initiative in Afghanistan

Russian forces could return to Afghanistan for the first time since they were forced out by mujahideen fighters in 1989, under a joint initiative with Nato.

A Nato summit next month will be attended by Russia's president, Dmitry Medvedev, to discuss the plans. Nato officials said Russia had agreed to sell helicopters to Afghanistan and provide training.

Moscow will allow Nato forces to withdraw equipment from Afghanistan overland for the first time, in proposals expected to be agreed in Lisbon.

"The summit can mark a new start in the relationship between Nato and Russia," said Anders Fogh Rasmussen, the Nato secretary-general.

"We will hopefully agree on a broad range of areas in which we can develop practical co-operation on Afghanistan, counter-terrorism, counter-narcotics."
He also said that British and US troops would remain on Afghanistan's front lines for years under an open-ended agreement to be signed at the summit. Hamid Karzai, the Afghan president, has demanded that his forces take over the fight against the Taliban by 2014.

While his call has been embraced by Western leaders, including Prime Minister David Cameron who set a five-year deadline on the Army's combat role, Mr Rasmussen said troops would not be withdrawn immediately.

Under a blueprint drawn up by Gen David Petraeus, Nato commander in Afghanistan, foreign troops would "thin out" but not leave disputed territory.

wait for the iranians to chip in!
 
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Just heard the CNN and it says Russians are intrested in putting some force to check the drug cartel flowing to russian borders and create rampant there killing 59people daily .
 
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great going.. US-Russian relationship should grow for the peacefulness in the world... They should have competition in technology areas but an enemity should be dropped...
 
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Looks like the tides of an alternate route hunt are already turning. If only Iran could let IAEA pass its reactors, they'd get their peaceful nuclear energy, the tiff between NATO and Iran will be over and with them also joining the party, it would be even more interesting.

LOL! More than 20 countries involved in solving one country's problem. :lol:
 
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great going.. US-Russian relationship should grow for the peacefulness in the world... They should have competition in technology areas but an enemity should be dropped...
And who'd welcome that more than India? :D A connect between NATO and Russia and latter's coming into Afghanistan would mean that we can extend our non-combat stay in the region and further Iran's intervention would mean stretching Taliban paper thin. They should be stretched until they're torn to shreds and nothing remains of them. And it is bound to happen.

Evil has never survived (despite returning every generation) but has always been fought hard and won against..
 
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