Rural punjab will make Imran Khan in to PM

[BHarwana]

Any possibility of forming some kind of a loose bloc with other like minded rural candidates? Nothing concrete but focused on a handful of critical issues - for example you mentioned Nawaz’s anti-Pakistan statements.

Currently we are fighting each other because of new Halqa bandis. When you see PTI member protesting out side banni gala that is because PML-N is trying to clash 2 vote banks of PTI with each other this is biggest problem but this is also effecting PML-N on the similar basis. for example in my district there were confirm 4 seats of PTI and one seat of PPP but now there will be only three seats in total. 2 will go to PTI and one will go to PPP. so PTI will have 2 less seats in NA because of seats being reduced in Jhang. Fasil slah hayat will win NA 114 PTI did nothing to cover him. in the new halqa NA-114 Fasil is strong candidate all his vote bank is covered in his halqa. We have some of our vote bank shifted to that Halqa but that will not be enough even if we convert it all to PTI candidate in that Halqa. Situation in Jhang is pro PTI and win for PTI.

Any possibility of forming some kind of a loose bloc with other like minded rural candidates? Nothing concrete but focused on a handful of critical issues - for example you mentioned Nawaz’s anti-Pakistan statements.

Who is PTI candidate in NA-92?

PTI has sialvi in NA-92 that candidate that left PML-N in the Faizabad dharna. He is a strong candidate but he is fighting against Raza Ali shah who is also a strong candidate. one solution was to shit one on lower seat and other on top seat like NA and PA seats could have worked but now it too late for that.

these are the candidates in that area

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1GVd73JYNreac32wA44_jhaqiQRHWRZ8a

 

[defence_analyst]

Bhai According to my observation PTI will win all 3 seats from Islamabad, 8 out of 21 seats from Karachi, 8 out of 14 from Lahore and 5 out of 10 from Faisalabad. Lahore and Faisalabad was PML N stronghold but now it seems that PTI is very strong here so stay calm and prepare yourself and your known ones to cast their vote for PTI on 25th of July. PTI will win with simple majority In sha Allah

Your observation isn't backed up by hard facts. Data shows contest between N and PTI in rural areas of punjab was lot closer then in urban areas.

 

[ziaulislam]

From what I'm seeing is that now PTI will win thanks to rural punjab. Lahore voted for N-league even in Musharraf era. That is lost case. Islamabad have few seats to matter anyway.

Half of Pakistan educated population live in Lahore who vote for Nawaz even if he's corrupt to the core. And other half live in Karachi who will always vote terrorists and bhattha khors. In reality these people are only half-educated anyway.

Though I can see PTI winning 4 seats in Lahore out of 14 this time if things really go bad for N-league. Rural punjab is where real battle will be fought between party vote bank and electable.

N-league strategy to spend more in cities and ignore rural areas may back fire this time.

issue is not education , its racism..people of lahore dont have an alternative to PML N..they see IK as "khan"..

Bhai According to my observation PTI will win all 3 seats from Islamabad, 8 out of 21 seats from Karachi, 8 out of 14 from Lahore and 5 out of 10 from Faisalabad. Lahore and Faisalabad was PML N stronghold but now it seems that PTI is very strong here so stay calm and prepare yourself and your known ones to cast their vote for PTI on 25th of July. PTI will win with simple majority In sha Allah

gallop polls suggest PTI will clean sweep in KPK and southern punjab
PML N will win from central punjab
PPPP in sindh
party position will be 90ish PML N, 70 ish PTI, 50ish PPPP

this is based upon march-april data..things can change and PML N/PTI might switch places if current trend continue..this however still means PMLN/PPPP can together form a govt

swing areas that can give unpredictable results are karachi and urban punjab(if the silent majority does votes..but his is very unlikley)

 

[Zibago]

Your observation isn't backed up by hard facts. Data shows contest between N and PTI in rural areas of punjab was lot closer then in urban areas.

Thats because of the electibles people in rural areas will vote for the guy who helps them in getting their produce sold in market and helps them get water for their produce in some cases areas that vote against a candidate get pucished by denial of services by those who purchase produce

 

[defence_analyst]

Thats because of the electibles people in rural areas will vote for the guy who helps them in getting their produce sold in market and helps them get water for their produce in some cases areas that vote against a candidate get pucished by denial of services by those who purchase produce

I'm talking about 2013 election and by election since then. Fawad Chaduhry lost by election by few thousand votes in Jhelum. Another PTI candidate lost by 2 thousand votes in Gujranwala by election. While in Lahore same PTI lost by 30 thousand even after Nawaz was disqualified.

 

[xyxmt]

From what I'm seeing is that now PTI will win thanks to rural punjab. Lahore voted for N-league even in Musharraf era. That is lost case. Islamabad have few seats to matter anyway.

Half of Pakistan educated population live in Lahore who vote for Nawaz even if he's corrupt to the core. And other half live in Karachi who will always vote terrorists and bhattha khors. In reality these people are only half-educated anyway.

Though I can see PTI winning 4 seats in Lahore out of 14 this time if things really go bad for N-league. Rural punjab is where real battle will be fought between party vote bank and electable.

N-league strategy to spend more in cities and ignore rural areas may back fire this time.

you dont know anything about rural punjab, or rural Pakistan

 

[ziaulislam]

we need to learn from turkey and switch to a strong presidential system..ayub was right all along

 

[defence_analyst]

issue is not education , its racism..people of lahore dont have an alternative to PML N..they see IK as "khan"..

That is non issue. Lahore isn't racist to that extent like KP and Sindh. And IK is not your typical Khan, pathans in Lahore are like any other baradari. No difference between them and others. Majority of them migrated from east punjab after 1947 along with many others of current Lahore population.

Instead IK need to be careful and not insult those who doesn't vote for him. As he will put Shebaz Sharif comment on Kiranchi people to shame. Not to forgot his support to PTM.

 

[Guvera]

Politics in rural Punjab is a complete different science, from 1996 till 2013... it took imran khan good 16 to 17 years to understand the ground realities and hard facts of punjab politics specially rural punjab. I absolutely agree with @BHarwana here, PTI need to focus on rural punjab if they want Imran as PM and thankfully the strategy this time is way better than 2013 so lets just hope for the best.

 

[defence_analyst]

Just saw Imran Khan interview on Mubashar show tonight, guess what he agreed with me.

 

[ziaulislam]

That is non issue. Lahore isn't racist to that extent like KP and Sindh. And IK is not your typical Khan, pathans in Lahore are like any other baradari. No difference between them and others. Majority of them migrated from east punjab after 1947 along with many others of current Lahore population.

Instead IK need to be careful and not insult those who doesn't vote for him. As he will put Shebaz Sharif comment on Kiranchi people to shame. Not to forgot his support to PTM.

you misunderstood me..punjabis still have a stigmata that pathans are idiots..this is main ploy of pML N that IK has no experience and is an idiot..it has worked very wells so far
the back up plan is yahoudi agent and personal life..that works good as well

so i doubt he will win the election fairly, ofcourse army might swing it his way who knows

KP(apart from religious backward areas of lower KPK) and southern punjab are definitively behind IK this time, so is some parts of karachi and islamabad as well as strong electibles he has in central punjab but will it be enough, i think not..i still believe in a fair election it will be PML N as PML N has unshakable URBAN EDUCATED PUNJAB SUPPORT(45 seats) and has strong overall central/northern punjab(previously PML N won 98/103 seats!!)

Just saw Imran Khan interview on Mubashar show tonight, guess what he agreed with me.

i disagree with some of his points
1. i dont want another Ishaq Dar, inflation is natural stopping it will cause a hardfall, both govt tried to keep rupee overvalued, solution is to outpace the inflation via increase in income
2. loans are not defined via absolute terms but in GDP terms
3. just look at china and copy everything if you dont know how to do it ..lol

4. tuff decisions wil have to be made to withdraw subsdies and aggressive privatization is must

 

[defence_analyst]

you misunderstood me..punjabis still have a stigmata that pathans are idiots..this is main ploy of pML N that IK has no experience and is an idiot..it has worked very wells so far
the back up plan is yahoudi agent and personal life..that works good as well

so i doubt he will win the election fairly, ofcourse army might swing it his way who knows

KP(apart from religious backward areas of lower KPK) and southern punjab are definitively behind IK this time, so is some parts of karachi and islamabad as well as strong electibles he has in central punjab but will it be enough, i think not..i still believe in a fair election it will be PML N as PML N has unshakable URBAN EDUCATED PUNJAB SUPPORT(45 seats) and has strong overall central/northern punjab(previously PML N won 98/103 seats!!)

Ok I will not deny racism but it doesn't apply to IK. The problem with you people is unless one vote for PTI, he's racist, unpatriotic etc Do I need to remind you what KP and Sindh people say about punjab? KP parties in KP already call him fake pathan, mirasi khan. Was Saulat Mirza target killer of MQM youfzai pathan or urdu speaker muhajir? Because like Imran Khan, huge population of urdu speaking muhajirs is made up of pathans. So he's not your typical pathan.

Said this he clearly have pathan bias himself, see his support to PTM.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

PMLN has solid vote bank in Lahore, Faisalabad, Gujranwala, Sarghoda, Sialkot, Oakara, Jhelum. In 2013, they nearly swept all the seats from these cities which make nearly 50 of NA seats. PTI has to take atleast 30% of the seats from these cities in order to have a chance.

 

[ziaulislam]

Ok I will not deny racism but it doesn't apply to IK. The problem with you people is unless one vote for PTI, he's racist, unpatriotic etc Do I need to remind you what KP and Sindh people say about punjab? KP parties in KP already call him fake pathan, mirasi khan. Was Saulat Mirza target killer of MQM youfzai pathan or urdu speaker muhajir? Because like Imran Khan, huge population of urdu speaking muhajirs is made up of pathans. So he's not your typical pathan.

Said this he clearly have pathan bias himself, see his support to PTM.

its not racism in classical definition, its decision based upon cast and race
why do people vote for PPPP and MQM "kayon khy apna hey", people of sindh dont trust PMLN, nor PTI
the same people who vote for PML N will also distribute sweets if marshal law comes

regarding IK doesnt matter what ANP says, i as talking about people not parties..?!
urban KPK have voted beyond race and cast i dont know why but it has..so it has elected PPPP, PMLN, MMA, PTi, ANP in power...

but why dont you see similar trend in urban punjab and sindh, they are suppose to be educated(>50%) why doesnt urban punjab vote for PPPP or urban sindh for PML N???? it has never happened..its because decison is based upon cast first than national interests, its lack of trust

now i do understand rural areas fix vote bank and electibles but why urban areas?
i do understand their is some rigging in karachi but still

 

[H!TchHiker]

but why dont you see similar trend in urban punjab and sindh, they are suppose to be educated(>50%) why doesnt urban punjab vote for PPPP or urban sindh for PML N???? it has never happened..its because decison is based upon cast first than national interests, its lack of trust

How did PPP form government 3 times ? Bhutto used to sweep Punjab and so do Benazair in initial term got sizable vote.Bhutto was Sindhi and so do Benazir.
It is only after Mushraf government or PPP performance that contributed in it..You do know that IK got second highest vote in Punjab from urban areas in 2013.People needs time to change there political affiliations and PML -N does not sell choran of "IK being khan" they most of the time used to compare performance of Sindh aka Zardari with PML-N...