RSS is Indian edition of IS, says Kodiyeri

[takeiteasy]

CPI(M) is the sole party which is preventing these terrorists from gaining support in Kerala. This RSS terrorists and Sakha men wants their recipe of religious intolerance and riots like they do in Mangalore d.k and other parts to be realized in Kerala. It must not happen. CPI(M) is aggressive and RSS chaddi army knows that. Communists are sometimes needed to balance the society.

A little incidence few months back: I was standing near one shop in the busy street and some fellows are talking like this temple in the xyz location is taken over by RSS now. they all have that wrist "thread" with a reddish thing, typical of RSS Chaddis. They seems very happy. Now, they will use the temple ground for rifle, sword practices and mad men from western India (RSS pracharak) to come there and start hate speech against Muslims and Christians. This is the modus operandi. Taking over temples and assigning the leadership of local Hindus and spreading hatred and religious polarization all happening in secular India.
Yes - When ISS/NDF were banned RSS and it's hundreds of sub organizations also must be banned in a secular country. RSS != Hinduism. Hindu kabhi Khatre mein nahin he nahin the...Kangressis nor Muslims can do anything in a majority Hindu country. It was all Internet propaganda by the goons now known as leaders and respected by the radical Hindus. For the sake of Indian union, a secular government must be in power.

 

[The_Showstopper]

it is u who needs to see a shrink my dear although the pathological hatred u have inside that is hardly curable
anyways have office tomorrow, must sleep now, seems ur wish just got fulfilled

Yaah I know I can never be like you or Giriraj or Yogi Adityanath... So I shall be happy with my "pathological hatred"

Genocide:
the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/genocide


Ethnic cleansing:
the practice of removing or killing people who belong to an ethnic group that is different from the ruling group in a country or region
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ethnic%20cleansing.

I've already the definition, what makes you post it again...?

Genocide and Ethnic cleansing are strong words in my dictionary and would not use them loosely for each and every communal or caste clashes which are more to do with politics at hand than any institutionalized sinister plan.

They are indeed strong words with meaning and has been systematically applied in 2002.. And I have already posted one of the references over here in this thread.

I am not sure which post(s) you may be referring to. If you point me to the said post I would be able to respond.

Plese refer post #43

My point was simple. You cannot indulge in something and expect that there would not be any reaction.

Now you are justifying violence... hmm Good to you see you doing that

 

[ranjeet]

Yaah I know I can never be like you or Giriraj or Yogi Adityanath... So I shall be happy with my "pathological hatred"

I've already the definition, what makes you post it again...?


They are indeed strong words with meaning and has been systematically applied in 2002.. And I have already posted one of the references over here in this thread.


Plese refer post #43


Now you are justifying... hmm Good to you see you doing that

So who do you support?

CPI(M) is the sole party which is preventing these terrorists from gaining support in Kerala. This RSS terrorists and Sakha men wants their recipe of religious intolerance and riots like they do in Mangalore d.k and other parts to be realized in Kerala. It must not happen. CPI(M) is aggressive and RSS chaddi army knows that. Communists are sometimes needed to balance the society.

A little incidence few months back: I was standing near one shop in the busy street and some fellows are talking like this temple in the xyz location is taken over by RSS now. they all have that wrist "thread" with a reddish thing, typical of RSS Chaddis. They seems very happy. Now, they will use the temple ground for rifle, sword practices and mad men from western India (RSS pracharak) to come there and start hate speech against Muslims and Christians. This is the modus operandi. Taking over temples and assigning the leadership of local Hindus and spreading hatred and religious polarization all happening in secular India.
Yes - When ISS/NDF were banned RSS and it's hundreds of sub organizations also must be banned in a secular country. RSS != Hinduism. Hindu kabhi Khatre mein nahin he nahin the...Kangressis nor Muslims can do anything in a majority Hindu country. It was all Internet propaganda by the goons now known as leaders and respected by the radical Hindus. For the sake of Indian union, a secular government must be in power.

kerala is a prime example and it will be the first place where Christians will side with hindus to save themselves from the coming onslaught from the Muslims.

 

[The_Showstopper]

So who do you support?

Arey bhai hum toh aapko support karte hai

 

[ranjeet]

Arey bhai hum toh aapko support karte hai

phir bhi ... khul ke maidan mein aao .. maaza aayega 2-2 haath karne mein.

 

[The_Showstopper]

phir bhi ... khul ke maidan mein aao .. maaza aayega 2-2 haath karne mein.

Hum toh hamesha se hee maidaan me the, bas aapne dekhna munaasib nahi samjha...

 

[ranjeet]

Hum toh hamesha se hee maidaan me the, bas aapne dekhna munaasib nahi samjha...

aaj thodi achi chadi hui hai ... kal parso dekhta hoon tujhe mein. enjoy karne de buzz aaj.

 

[The_Showstopper]

aaj thodi achi chadi hui hai ... kal parso dekhta hoon tujhe mein. enjoy karne de buzz aaj.

Chal jaise teri marzi... hum apni taraf se itna toh karhee sakte hai

Aaj tera din hai aish karle

 

[dadeechi]

They are indeed strong words with meaning and has been systematically applied in 2002.. And I have already posted one of the references over here in this thread.
Plese refer post #43
Now you are justifying... hmm Good to you see you doing that

How many riots have taken place in Gujarat since 2002 Godhra communal incident? None

Do you still have Muslims and Hindus living in Gujarat post 2002 Godhra communal incident? Yes

Were both Muslims and Hindus who participated in 2002 Godhra communal incident punished? Yes

The closest thing that comes to Genocide/Ethnic Cleansing in India is the incident related to the Kashmiri Pandits. Even here I would not use those terms like you did in your posts earlier as

1) The governments at time have failed to protect the people from the issuing of fatwas and the terror attacks that followed
2) There were still some Muslim Kashmiris who opposed such moves by the Islamic terrorists

I have seen your post on #43 but I do not know which thread/post you are referring to where I thanked someone.

Finally I am not justifying or condoning anything. In fact I am criticizing both sides while you seem to be stuck on one side only.

 

[The_Showstopper]

How many riots have taken place in Gujarat since 2002 Godhra communal incident? None

Really... OK here are some facts...

Do you still have Muslims and Hindus living in Gujarat post 2002 Godhra communal incident? Yes

But in a fragmented society...

Were both Muslims and Hindus who participated in 2002 Godhra communal incident punished? Yes

All thanks to Supreme Court although many got away due to lack of evidence...

The closest thing that comes to Genocide/Ethnic Cleansing in India is the incident related to the Kashmiri Pandits. Even here I would not use those terms like you did in your posts earlier as

Not really, many/most agree to the fact that there was an attempt to ethnically cleanse Gujarat of muslims and Government actively played part in this(Though by staying behind the scenes while facilitating the men at work)

1) The governments at time have failed to protect the people from the issuing of fatwas and the terror attacks that followed
2) There were still some Muslim Kashmiris who opposed such moves by the Islamic terrorists

Government failing to protect cannot be termed as colluding with those attackers. It is more like inefficiency of government and hence it can't be termed as Genocide...

Finally I am not justifying or condoning anything. In fact I am criticizing both sides while you seem to be stuck on one side only.

The criticism should be based on severity... And that is what I was doing.

You can't equate a Naroda patiya with some other killings... People died on the both the occasions its the way they were killed that was required to be stressed

 

[dadeechi]

Really... OK here are some facts...
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But in a fragmented society...


All thanks to Supreme Court although many got away due to lack of evidence...


Not really, many/most agree to the fact that there was an attempt to ethnically cleanse Gujarat of muslims and Government actively played part in this(Though by staying behind the scenes while facilitating the men at work)


Government failing to protect cannot be termed as colluding with those attackers. It is more like inefficiency of government and hence it can't be termed as Genocide...


The criticism should be based on severity... And that is what I was doing.

You can't equate a Naroda patiya with some other killings... People died on the both the occasions its the way they were killed that was required to be stressed

So you are saying In case of Kashmiri Pandits it was the inefficiency of the Government and In case of Godhra it is due to the collusion of the government?

 

[The_Showstopper]

So you are saying In case of Kashmiri Pandits it was the inefficiency of the Government and In case of Godhra it is due to the collusion of the government?

Indeed you heard it right...

Are you telling me that Indian Government colluded with Pakistani terrorists and Kashmiri militants to displace Indian citizens..

 

[dadeechi]

Indeed you heard it right...

Are you telling me that Indian Government colluded with Pakistani terrorists and Kashmiri militants to displace Indian citizens..

Incase of Kashmir, The Pandits neither initiated nor reacted to the incident . The Islamic terrorists incited and forced the Pandits to quit Kashmir.

In case of Godhra, The incident was initiated by Muslims and there was a reaction from Hindus.

There is night and day difference between the incidents both in terms of modus operandi and magnitude.

 

[The_Showstopper]

Incase of Kashmir, The Pandits neither initiated nor reacted to the incident . The Islamic terrorists incited and forced the Pandits to quit Kashmir.
In case of Godhra, The incident was initiated by Muslims and there was a reaction from Hindus.

How does that make any difference? Victims in both the cases were innocent yet suffered for no fault of their's. And if you want to blame "muslims" for initiating then you must first blame Karsevaks because they were the one who started the trouble by brawling at platform...

There is night and day difference between the incidents both in terms of modus operandi and magnitude.

There is indeed difference of day and night between 2002 and 1990. One was initiated by Foreign militants and local fanatic extremists and other was initiated by right wing extremists well supported by State authorities...

 

[JanjaWeed]

That's just your opinion...

Not really...that's just how it is defined & interpreted by anyone who is not biased & blinded.

LOL... Are you telling me that 9% population trying to cleanse 90% populace? Is that for real?

Not at all.. I was just trying to make a point to prove how absurd your argument sounds when you try & make it as if only one group of people suffered while other side escaped completely unhurt.

People get killed in violence on the both the sides but it is more important to note who suffered the most and how they were targeted ...

Oh OK..so just 'cause number 790 is bigger than the number 254, it absolves one group of people of all sins 'cause they suffered more casualties? Do you know how absurd that sounds? So according to you killing is OK as long as it's done in a particular way?

Usual suspects? Trying to discredit the facts... Ok few points mentioned by these "usual suspects" and court has agreed to them, do you want me post them for you? And let me also inform you that there also good enough links to call 2002 as
one of the worst genocide in the history of independent India and you know that pretty well, it is just that you don't want to accept it.. And I wouldn't mind posting links supporting my claims but I am afraid you shall try to discredit them yet again...

Of course I'm going to doubt the credibility of your source if your source if affiliated to a particular political party or aligned to a particular political ideology, with plenty of reason to be biased.

Indeed a complete of helpless people killed by marauding majority.... And what makes you think that Sikhs did not retaliate? The below is one such retaliation...

11 HINDUS KILLED IN PUNJAB UNREST - NYTimes.com

Score! Now let's is which one looks more like ethnic cleansing & genocide.
790 of 14.2% community vs 254 OR 2800 of 1.7% community vs 11
Now I'll let you decide...