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RSS in Kashmir, Tulsi Gabbard in USA: The Rise of Hindu Extremists and supporters around the world

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She might not be added to the upcoming Democratic Debate, many people thought that Tulsi knew that she wont win but this was more like an interview for the job of US Secretary of State in case Bernie or Warren wins the nomination, I sure hope if Bernie wins the nomination he can find a more capable person instead of this RSS hidutva mole. Overall there is little to no chance of her winning any seat, for the foreseeable future. Left is fully aware of her support for Trumps anti muslim policies, her links to RSS and her support for torture. She is nothing but a fake leftist.
 
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@waz @Mangus Ortus Novem @MastanKhan @The Accountant @IceCold @Dubious the article is very detailed, identifying names of prominent RSS supporters in the US as well as who is who and where doing whatever they can for the Hindutwa cause.

The American Sangh’s affair with Tulsi Gabbard

Part 2:​

ONE DAY IN THE SPRING OF 2015, Tulsi Gabbard was the centre of attention. Some three hundred guests gathered outside the Kahalu’u Fishpond on the Hawaiian island of Oahu to witness her wedding to Abraham Williams. Dressed in a royal-blue lehnga choli, she walked down the aisle alongside her father, the Hawaiian state senator Mike Gabbard. Abraham, wearing a white suit, stood waiting for her at the altar. By his side stood Vinod Dave, the pandit who was to perform the traditional Vedic ceremony. Tulsi’s mother, Carol, also stood waiting—as did India’s acting ambassador to the United States at the time, Taranjit Sandhu, and Ram Madhav, who was then a BJP spokesperson and is now a national general secretary of the party. Prior to his appointment as party spokesperson a year earlier, Madhav had served as the national spokesperson for the RSS for over ten years.

During the ceremony, Madhav took the stage to convey Narendra Modi’s personal greetings. “All of us here share the happiness of your family and loved ones on this important day,” he read from Modi’s letter. “On behalf of our prime minister, I invite the newly-wed couple to celebrate their honeymoon in the land of devas,” he added. He then delivered gifts from Modi—a pashmina shawl and a Ganesh statuette.

It was an illustrious delegation for a junior congresswoman. Gabbard had just begun her second term in January 2015. She had also just returned from a three-week tour of India, where she met Modi, half a dozen cabinet ministers and the chief of the army staff.

The month before her wedding, she had begun hinting at presidential ambitions. Described by The Atlantic as a “rising star” of the Democratic Party, she disagreed that there was “little hope for a Hindu in the Oval Office in our lifetimes.” Arguing that spiritual practice is not a credential for a presidential candidate, she concluded, “People are looking for someone they can trust.”

Modi, meanwhile, was looking to recruit members of the Indian-American diaspora to his unofficial diplomatic corps. “We are changing the contours of diplomacy and looking at new ways of strengthening India’s interests abroad,” Madhav told the Washington Post in February 2015. “They can be India’s voice even while being loyal citizens in those countries. That is the long-term goal behind the diaspora diplomacy.”

Two people whom Modi has long relied on to be “India’s voice” in America—or, some might argue, the Sangh Parivar’s voice—joined Madhav as guests at Gabbard’s wedding. Ramesh Bhutada and his relative Vijay Pallod made the eight-hour flight from Texas with their wives, as well as Bhutada’s son, Rishi, and Rishi’s wife and son. Ramesh, Vijay and Rishi had all been generous donors to Gabbard’s congressional campaigns since before her first election, in 2012.

Years before Madhav articulated Modi’s concept of diaspora diplomacy, the RSS had embraced a similar idea. In December 2010 in Pune, the Hindu Swayamsevak Sangh—the RSS’s international wing—held a Vishwa Sangh Shibir, a quinquennial summit of HSS members from 35 countries. “Hindus abroad should act as cultural ambassadors of Bharat, and the HSS has been working in that direction,” Mohan Bhagwat, the sarsanghchalak—supreme leader—of the RSS, said during a farewell address. “This country alone has the capacity to save the world and humanity from the impending dangers.” Bhutada and Pallod were in the audience.

Dressed in the traditional RSS uniform of khaki shorts, white shirts and black caps, the two Houstonians posed for pictures with the founder of the HSS, Jagdish Chandra Sharda. In his nineties and confined to a wheelchair, Sharda travelled from Canada just to speak at the camp. His memoirs portray his life as part of “the story of Sangh expansion overseas, specially the first steps of Hindu philosophy as a social movement outside Bharat.” When Sharda died in 2017, Bhutada, speaking in his capacity as the vice-president of the US chapter of the HSS, eulogised him as “the first one to start Sangh shakha”—branches—“outside of India.”

When KB Hedgewar founded the RSS, in 1925, he explained that “the Sangh wants to put in reality the words ‘Hindustan of Hindus,’” which he compared to a “Germany of Germans.” Hedgewar’s mentor, BS Moonje, reached out to the Italian dictator Benito Mussolini. In 1931, he travelled to Italy to tour institutions run by the National Fascist Party. Professing himself “much impressed” by the “fascist organisations,” he declared, “Every aspiring and growing nation needs such organisations. India needs them most.” In 1939, just before replacing Hedgewar as RSS chief, MS Golwalkar praised Nazi Germany’s racial policies as “a good lesson for us in Hindustan to learn and profit by.” Soon, however, the RSS decided it had something of its own to offer the world.

In 1946, Sharda was a young teacher of Sanskrit and Hindi in Amritsar. An irregular member of the RSS since his teens, he began participating in earnest after attending an officers’ training camp in 1942. After the Second World War ended, he accepted a teaching position in British-occupied Kenya. In his Memoirs of a Global Hindu, Sharda writes that his “Sangh colleagues” were upset at the news that he was leaving at that “crucial juncture”—just before Partition—but did not want him to miss the opportunity. “I also promised them that wherever I go, Sangh will go with me; and wherever I went, I would organize Sangh work.”

During the rough voyage to Kenya, he was comforted after spotting a fellow passenger wearing the “khaki half-pants of Sangh.” As the two gathered others to join in community activities, their number swelled to 17, all of whom identified as RSS swayamsevaks—volunteers. “The first Sangh shakha outside Bharat was held on board the ship S.S. Vasna in September 1946,” he writes. In 1947, as he settled into life in Kenya, Sharda founded the Sangh’s first permanent international branch.

Sangh activists demolished the Babri Masjid in 1992, setting off communal violence across India. The same year, LK Advani decided that the BJP needed a global presence. He founded the Overseas Friends of the BJP, to help project “a positive and correct image.” Eventually known as the HSS, Sharda's new organisation followed the same ideology as the RSS. Its purpose, Sharda writes, was to unite and organise a community, which “possessed all the qualities of a highly civilized and cultured society, except for the stark absence of unity, discipline, organizational qualities and assertiveness.” His comments reflected the Sangh’s shifting rhetoric. In the mid 1960s, shortly after founding the Vishva Hindu Parishad to serve as the RSS’s religious wing, Golwalkar remarked, “The average man of this country was at one time incomparably superior to the average man of the other lands.” He hoped the Sangh would return India—or, rather, the Hindu community—to that golden age of superiority. As the Sangh expanded internationally, it stopped looking to the outside world for inspiration and instead began insisting that the outside world should look to India and its culture for inspiration.

Ian Hall, a deputy director of Griffith University’s Asia Institute and the author of a forthcoming book on Modi’s foreign policy, told me that the ideological concept of a superior Hindu culture motivated the Sangh’s international expansion. Hall called the expansion “part and parcel of spreading the word.” According to him, “The Sangh are convinced that, one day, the world will come to appreciate the wisdom of the sanatana dharma, which is wisdom for the world, not just for India.”

By the 1960s, Sangh branches had sprouted up in many erstwhile British colonies—from Kenya to Myanmar, Hong Kong, Mauritius and elsewhere. Decolonisation prompted emigration, and many Indians living in the newly liberated countries moved to the United Kingdom. In 1966, Sharda inaugurated the UK’s first HSS branch. Meantime, across the ocean, changes in immigration law soon opened the doors for Indians to immigrate to the United States.

Asian immigration to the United States was severely restricted before Congress passed the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965. At the height of the civil-rights movement, the United States scrapped its racially oriented quota system in favour of one giving preference to highly skilled immigrants. Around twelve thousand Indians a year began entering the country. New arrivals included Ramesh Bhutada, who emigrated in the late 1960s, just as the Sangh was taking root in American soil.

In 1969, Modi’s friend Mahesh Mehta emigrated to New York from Gujarat—where the two shared a mentor and attended the same RSS shakha. Upon arrival, Mehta, an RSS pracharak—fulltime worker—immediately established the first Sangh organisation in the United States. Officially founded in 1970, the VHP of America was the VHP’s first overseas branch.

Bhutada was not yet involved. Although his father was an RSS officer in Maharashtra, an IndoAmerican News profile explains the son “never understood RSS properly and was busy in his studies.” That changed when HSS-USA was founded, in 1977. Sharad Amin, described by the India Herald as a leader with “vast experience” in the HSS and VHPA, told the newspaper that Houston’s first HSS shakha began in Bhutada’s house. Ever since, he has been a cornerstone of the American Sangh.
 
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The world is united against muslims and we are divided against each other ... meanwhile our opposition parties are fighting like cats and dogs over non issues ...

May Allah save us as tough times are not very far away ... huge wars are coming ... we are being surrounded from every angle ... for Pakistan India is being used ... for middke east israel is the key
 
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The world is united against muslims and we are divided against each other ... meanwhile our opposition parties are fighting like cats and dogs over non issues ...

May Allah save us as tough times are not very far away ... huge wars are coming ... we are being surrounded from every angle ... for Pakistan India is being used ... for middke east israel is the key

It is a good opportunity to take all the enemies to task at once.
 
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It is a good opportunity to take all the enemies to task at once.
We can't we simply can't. We don't have imaan strong enough and nor have the resources. Atleast one of the two is required to fight.

If you have Imaan you fight for jannat and shahadat and if you have resources you can win ...
 
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We can't we simply can't. We don't have imaan strong enough and nor have the resources. Atleast one of the two is required to fight.

If you have Imaan you fight for jannat and shahadat and if you have resources you can win ...
Age old adage; divide and conquer.

Pakistan looks like it already stands alone.

I stated elsewhere also, a nail sticking out gets hammered, thats the state of Muslims leaders around the world. They are afraid to go against the flow and standout.

GCC are undergoing experiment of singling out Qatar for supporting Iran.

How did Pakistan calculate itself viz a viz Qatar as not being spared or face consequences?

UAE is being wooed by India, so is Saudia being lured by the attraction of business opportunities in India.

Then there is Iran. India and Iran are strategic trade partners. India and Israel are strategic defence partners. Iran and Israel are enemies but that does not bother either of them or India for that matter. The goal is to keep the region divided however possible.

There may be division among us posters on which country is wrong or right viz a viz saudia and Iran, but I don't think there is any doubt that the proverbial bogeymen in the region are Israel and Iran.

One by one, the countries of the region who are being lured or threatened right now, shall be isolated and sorted out if they don't fall in line and know their place.

The idea is to lure, terrorise, armtwist and manipulate the countries into dominating them and make them subjugate states of Israel and India. Iran is looking at the pie and thinking that it can get its share of regional dominance too if it plays along with India, keeps itself strong enough and in time building Nuclear weapons to keep Arabs and Israel in check so that it can dominate them when the time comes. That is called taking care of National Interest...A concept that eludes Pakistan to date.

So what is the out take?

Israel and its lowly partner India are simply taking advantage of the bogeyman status of Iran.

Israel is supporting the dimwit Hindutwa goons in India to corner Pakistan and avenge the himiliation it faced at the hands of Arab - PAF alliance, trying to make sure there is no repeat of the accolades of the 70s. (Already their plan has hit a snag if we got Israeli pilot captured - making them more committed to teach us a lesson even more)

Israel has neutralized GCC and Pakistan alliance by luring GCC towards itself using the fear of Irani bogeyman dreaming Arab domination while we helped Israel and India's as well as Iran's cause by staying away from Yemen fearing sectarian divide in Pakistan.

While we fear going against Irani in siding with GCC, Iran has no fear or conflict of Muslim interest or fear of its sunni minority to partner with India on Chabahar or interfere in any country for that matter where there is shia population as it has made it its birth right to interfere and do so repeatedly.

Pakistan needs to open its eye for protecting its National Interest like Iran that didn't even blink when handing Chabahar to India.

Believe me, any country will respect you if you fight for your National Interest instead of fearing the outcome if you go against the interest of another country.

@Mangus Ortus Novem @MastanKhan
 
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@waz @Mangus Ortus Novem @MastanKhan @The Accountant @IceCold @Dubious the article is very detailed, identifying names of prominent RSS supporters in the US as well as who is who and where doing whatever they can for the Hindutwa cause.

The American Sangh’s affair with Tulsi Gabbard

Part 2:​

ONE DAY IN THE SPRING OF 2015, Tulsi Gabbard was the centre of attention. Some three hundred guests gathered outside the Kahalu’u Fishpond on the Hawaiian island of Oahu to witness her wedding to Abraham Williams. Dressed in a royal-blue lehnga choli, she walked down the aisle alongside her father, the Hawaiian state senator Mike Gabbard. Abraham, wearing a white suit, stood waiting for her at the altar. By his side stood Vinod Dave, the pandit who was to perform the traditional Vedic ceremony. Tulsi’s mother, Carol, also stood waiting—as did India’s acting ambassador to the United States at the time, Taranjit Sandhu, and Ram Madhav, who was then a BJP spokesperson and is now a national general secretary of the party. Prior to his appointment as party spokesperson a year earlier, Madhav had served as the national spokesperson for the RSS for over ten years.

During the ceremony, Madhav took the stage to convey Narendra Modi’s personal greetings. “All of us here share the happiness of your family and loved ones on this important day,” he read from Modi’s letter. “On behalf of our prime minister, I invite the newly-wed couple to celebrate their honeymoon in the land of devas,” he added. He then delivered gifts from Modi—a pashmina shawl and a Ganesh statuette.

It was an illustrious delegation for a junior congresswoman. Gabbard had just begun her second term in January 2015. She had also just returned from a three-week tour of India, where she met Modi, half a dozen cabinet ministers and the chief of the army staff.

The month before her wedding, she had begun hinting at presidential ambitions. Described by The Atlantic as a “rising star” of the Democratic Party, she disagreed that there was “little hope for a Hindu in the Oval Office in our lifetimes.” Arguing that spiritual practice is not a credential for a presidential candidate, she concluded, “People are looking for someone they can trust.”

Modi, meanwhile, was looking to recruit members of the Indian-American diaspora to his unofficial diplomatic corps. “We are changing the contours of diplomacy and looking at new ways of strengthening India’s interests abroad,” Madhav told the Washington Post in February 2015. “They can be India’s voice even while being loyal citizens in those countries. That is the long-term goal behind the diaspora diplomacy.”

Two people whom Modi has long relied on to be “India’s voice” in America—or, some might argue, the Sangh Parivar’s voice—joined Madhav as guests at Gabbard’s wedding. Ramesh Bhutada and his relative Vijay Pallod made the eight-hour flight from Texas with their wives, as well as Bhutada’s son, Rishi, and Rishi’s wife and son. Ramesh, Vijay and Rishi had all been generous donors to Gabbard’s congressional campaigns since before her first election, in 2012.

Years before Madhav articulated Modi’s concept of diaspora diplomacy, the RSS had embraced a similar idea. In December 2010 in Pune, the Hindu Swayamsevak Sangh—the RSS’s international wing—held a Vishwa Sangh Shibir, a quinquennial summit of HSS members from 35 countries. “Hindus abroad should act as cultural ambassadors of Bharat, and the HSS has been working in that direction,” Mohan Bhagwat, the sarsanghchalak—supreme leader—of the RSS, said during a farewell address. “This country alone has the capacity to save the world and humanity from the impending dangers.” Bhutada and Pallod were in the audience.

Dressed in the traditional RSS uniform of khaki shorts, white shirts and black caps, the two Houstonians posed for pictures with the founder of the HSS, Jagdish Chandra Sharda. In his nineties and confined to a wheelchair, Sharda travelled from Canada just to speak at the camp. His memoirs portray his life as part of “the story of Sangh expansion overseas, specially the first steps of Hindu philosophy as a social movement outside Bharat.” When Sharda died in 2017, Bhutada, speaking in his capacity as the vice-president of the US chapter of the HSS, eulogised him as “the first one to start Sangh shakha”—branches—“outside of India.”

When KB Hedgewar founded the RSS, in 1925, he explained that “the Sangh wants to put in reality the words ‘Hindustan of Hindus,’” which he compared to a “Germany of Germans.” Hedgewar’s mentor, BS Moonje, reached out to the Italian dictator Benito Mussolini. In 1931, he travelled to Italy to tour institutions run by the National Fascist Party. Professing himself “much impressed” by the “fascist organisations,” he declared, “Every aspiring and growing nation needs such organisations. India needs them most.” In 1939, just before replacing Hedgewar as RSS chief, MS Golwalkar praised Nazi Germany’s racial policies as “a good lesson for us in Hindustan to learn and profit by.” Soon, however, the RSS decided it had something of its own to offer the world.

In 1946, Sharda was a young teacher of Sanskrit and Hindi in Amritsar. An irregular member of the RSS since his teens, he began participating in earnest after attending an officers’ training camp in 1942. After the Second World War ended, he accepted a teaching position in British-occupied Kenya. In his Memoirs of a Global Hindu, Sharda writes that his “Sangh colleagues” were upset at the news that he was leaving at that “crucial juncture”—just before Partition—but did not want him to miss the opportunity. “I also promised them that wherever I go, Sangh will go with me; and wherever I went, I would organize Sangh work.”

During the rough voyage to Kenya, he was comforted after spotting a fellow passenger wearing the “khaki half-pants of Sangh.” As the two gathered others to join in community activities, their number swelled to 17, all of whom identified as RSS swayamsevaks—volunteers. “The first Sangh shakha outside Bharat was held on board the ship S.S. Vasna in September 1946,” he writes. In 1947, as he settled into life in Kenya, Sharda founded the Sangh’s first permanent international branch.

Sangh activists demolished the Babri Masjid in 1992, setting off communal violence across India. The same year, LK Advani decided that the BJP needed a global presence. He founded the Overseas Friends of the BJP, to help project “a positive and correct image.” Eventually known as the HSS, Sharda's new organisation followed the same ideology as the RSS. Its purpose, Sharda writes, was to unite and organise a community, which “possessed all the qualities of a highly civilized and cultured society, except for the stark absence of unity, discipline, organizational qualities and assertiveness.” His comments reflected the Sangh’s shifting rhetoric. In the mid 1960s, shortly after founding the Vishva Hindu Parishad to serve as the RSS’s religious wing, Golwalkar remarked, “The average man of this country was at one time incomparably superior to the average man of the other lands.” He hoped the Sangh would return India—or, rather, the Hindu community—to that golden age of superiority. As the Sangh expanded internationally, it stopped looking to the outside world for inspiration and instead began insisting that the outside world should look to India and its culture for inspiration.

Ian Hall, a deputy director of Griffith University’s Asia Institute and the author of a forthcoming book on Modi’s foreign policy, told me that the ideological concept of a superior Hindu culture motivated the Sangh’s international expansion. Hall called the expansion “part and parcel of spreading the word.” According to him, “The Sangh are convinced that, one day, the world will come to appreciate the wisdom of the sanatana dharma, which is wisdom for the world, not just for India.”

By the 1960s, Sangh branches had sprouted up in many erstwhile British colonies—from Kenya to Myanmar, Hong Kong, Mauritius and elsewhere. Decolonisation prompted emigration, and many Indians living in the newly liberated countries moved to the United Kingdom. In 1966, Sharda inaugurated the UK’s first HSS branch. Meantime, across the ocean, changes in immigration law soon opened the doors for Indians to immigrate to the United States.

Asian immigration to the United States was severely restricted before Congress passed the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965. At the height of the civil-rights movement, the United States scrapped its racially oriented quota system in favour of one giving preference to highly skilled immigrants. Around twelve thousand Indians a year began entering the country. New arrivals included Ramesh Bhutada, who emigrated in the late 1960s, just as the Sangh was taking root in American soil.

In 1969, Modi’s friend Mahesh Mehta emigrated to New York from Gujarat—where the two shared a mentor and attended the same RSS shakha. Upon arrival, Mehta, an RSS pracharak—fulltime worker—immediately established the first Sangh organisation in the United States. Officially founded in 1970, the VHP of America was the VHP’s first overseas branch.

Bhutada was not yet involved. Although his father was an RSS officer in Maharashtra, an IndoAmerican News profile explains the son “never understood RSS properly and was busy in his studies.” That changed when HSS-USA was founded, in 1977. Sharad Amin, described by the India Herald as a leader with “vast experience” in the HSS and VHPA, told the newspaper that Houston’s first HSS shakha began in Bhutada’s house. Ever since, he has been a cornerstone of the American Sangh.

Great article.

This is a time of reflection for Pakistan.

This is where we have failed vis a vis our enemies, Israel and India.

We failed to utilize our diaspora community properly, and our diaspora also distanced itself from their homeland.

It is never too late to begin establishing influence in the West and ME countries.

We can learn, even from our enemies.

Our cause is holy and divine, based on justice and honor.

If falsehood and evil can gain power and influence using these tactics, what then of those emboldened with Iman and Taqwa walking the path of Rasullulah saws?
 
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Age old adage; divide and conquer.

Pakistan looks like it already stands alone.

I stated elsewhere also, a nail sticking out gets hammered, thats the state of Muslims leaders around the world. They are afraid to go against the flow and standout.

GCC are undergoing experiment of singling out Qatar for supporting Iran.

How did Pakistan calculate itself viz a viz Qatar as not being spared or face consequences?

UAE is being wooed by India, so is Saudia being lured by the attraction of business opportunities in India.

Then there is Iran. India and Iran are strategic trade partners. India and Israel are strategic defence partners. Iran and Israel are enemies but that does not bother either of them or India for that matter. The goal is to keep the region divided however possible.

There may be division among us posters on which country is wrong or right viz a viz saudia and Iran, but I don't think there is any doubt that the proverbial bogeymen in the region are Israel and Iran.

One by one, the countries of the region who are being lured or threatened right now, shall be isolated and sorted out if they don't fall in line and know their place.

The idea is to lure, terrorise, armtwist and manipulate the countries into dominating them and make them subjugate states of Israel and India. Iran is looking at the pie and thinking that it can get its share of regional dominance too if it plays along with India, keeps itself strong enough and in time building Nuclear weapons to keep Arabs and Israel in check so that it can dominate them when the time comes. That is called taking care of National Interest...A concept that eludes Pakistan to date.

So what is the out take?

Israel and its lowly partner India are simply taking advantage of the bogeyman status of Iran.

Israel is supporting the dimwit Hindutwa goons in India to corner Pakistan and avenge the himiliation it faced at the hands of Arab - PAF alliance, trying to make sure there is no repeat of the accolades of the 70s. (Already their plan has hit a snag if we got Israeli pilot captured - making them more committed to teach us a lesson even more)

Israel has neutralized GCC and Pakistan alliance by luring GCC towards itself using the fear of Irani bogeyman dreaming Arab domination while we helped Israel and India's as well as Iran's cause by staying away from Yemen fearing sectarian divide in Pakistan.

While we fear going against Irani in siding with GCC, Iran has no fear or conflict of Muslim interest or fear of its sunni minority to partner with India on Chabahar or interfere in any country for that matter where there is shia population as it has made it its birth right to interfere and do so repeatedly.

Pakistan needs to open its eye for protecting its National Interest like Iran that didn't even blink when handing Chabahar to India.

Believe me, any country will respect you if you fight for your National Interest instead of fearing the outcome if you go against the interest of another country.

@Mangus Ortus Novem @MastanKhan
A very through analysis. However, few points needs to be reviewed as well.

Pakistan is no Iran as we have no history as a nation. Sunni or Non-sunni even non muslim will identify himself Irani or Persian with proud. Can we claim the same for Pakistani?

What is our identity ? Why there is no compromise on accepting the hegemony of India and Israel? We all know that relationship between KSA and Iran are warming thanks to the bogeyman Iran but it is reverse in case of Pakistan. Why is that? Traditionally for such matters we were just followers of KSA but now Pakistan is going alone.

What I feel (and you can disagree as it is my personal opinion) that Pakistan's nationality is Muslim and its not Pakistani. We were created with a sole purpose of establishing a true muslim state but we lost it somewhere in the middle due to which our nation is in identity crisis. We don't want to accept anti-muslim states of India and Israel, we don't want to kill other muslims in Yemen. Our armed forces, civilians and whole nation remained divided on attacking Afghanistan and ultimately we settled down on supporting Taliban against all the odds.

So where I agree that Pakistan should focus on its national interest but I feel that our national interest are not yet identified and prioritized yet.

Right now our national interest is economic survival so we might go through alot of compromises. However, what is ultimate objective of Pakistan and what Pakistani thinks of themselves? Can we disassociate ourselves from Islam and can still survive as a nation ? I don't think we can.

Despite all the cultural differences between Sindhi, Punjabi, Pathan, Baloochi and Mahajir we all decided to live in the same country, why ? just because of Islam and as a nation this is our only binding force. Whereas on our eastern the only binding force for them is the muslim bogeyman.

Right now there is a need of strong unity of muslims within Pakistan and this is the only tool which can bring us togahter. We have to create inter sect harmony and only then we can excel as a united nation otherwise we will keep on exploding from multiple fault lines.

So as per my knowledge our biggest national interest is to rebuild Pakistan as a muslim country with muslims as our nationality
 
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Her libertarian take wont take her far as her association with Putin,Asad and Modi has made her a tiny bit controversial
 
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Remove the cancer at first stage. Americans, if they have not learned anything from Zionist penetration in their country, this will not only be more damaging but proper cringe worthy as well.

I am satisfied that one such leech, Nikki Haley is now made redundant.


I think PDF should be utilize to expose all such Indian individuals within American system.
 
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Age old adage; divide and conquer.

Pakistan looks like it already stands alone.

I stated elsewhere also, a nail sticking out gets hammered, thats the state of Muslims leaders around the world. They are afraid to go against the flow and standout.

GCC are undergoing experiment of singling out Qatar for supporting Iran.

How did Pakistan calculate itself viz a viz Qatar as not being spared or face consequences?

UAE is being wooed by India, so is Saudia being lured by the attraction of business opportunities in India.

Then there is Iran. India and Iran are strategic trade partners. India and Israel are strategic defence partners. Iran and Israel are enemies but that does not bother either of them or India for that matter. The goal is to keep the region divided however possible.

There may be division among us posters on which country is wrong or right viz a viz saudia and Iran, but I don't think there is any doubt that the proverbial bogeymen in the region are Israel and Iran.

One by one, the countries of the region who are being lured or threatened right now, shall be isolated and sorted out if they don't fall in line and know their place.

The idea is to lure, terrorise, armtwist and manipulate the countries into dominating them and make them subjugate states of Israel and India. Iran is looking at the pie and thinking that it can get its share of regional dominance too if it plays along with India, keeps itself strong enough and in time building Nuclear weapons to keep Arabs and Israel in check so that it can dominate them when the time comes. That is called taking care of National Interest...A concept that eludes Pakistan to date.

So what is the out take?

Israel and its lowly partner India are simply taking advantage of the bogeyman status of Iran.

Israel is supporting the dimwit Hindutwa goons in India to corner Pakistan and avenge the himiliation it faced at the hands of Arab - PAF alliance, trying to make sure there is no repeat of the accolades of the 70s. (Already their plan has hit a snag if we got Israeli pilot captured - making them more committed to teach us a lesson even more)

Israel has neutralized GCC and Pakistan alliance by luring GCC towards itself using the fear of Irani bogeyman dreaming Arab domination while we helped Israel and India's as well as Iran's cause by staying away from Yemen fearing sectarian divide in Pakistan.

While we fear going against Irani in siding with GCC, Iran has no fear or conflict of Muslim interest or fear of its sunni minority to partner with India on Chabahar or interfere in any country for that matter where there is shia population as it has made it its birth right to interfere and do so repeatedly.

Pakistan needs to open its eye for protecting its National Interest like Iran that didn't even blink when handing Chabahar to India.

Believe me, any country will respect you if you fight for your National Interest instead of fearing the outcome if you go against the interest of another country.

@Mangus Ortus Novem @MastanKhan

We can all agree that at the end of the day all nations irrespective of creed and rank look out for their interests. Be it the custodian of Makkah or the worshippers of Hanuman. National interests are the supreme.
 
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