Rs 5,000-crore fund approved for supercomputers

[C130]

sorry, not so nice... instead of designing their own microprocessor and operating system, indian government departments and indian info tech industry just assembles foreign designed and built components for use in fancy projects...

well that's pretty much the only option

 

[jamahir]

well that's pretty much the only option

i wonder what happened to these...

Report: India to pursue homegrown microprocessor design | EE Times
Saraswat: DRDO working on India's own computer operating system - The Hindu

 

[C130]

i wonder what happened to these...

Report: India to pursue homegrown microprocessor design | EE Times
Saraswat: DRDO working on India's own computer operating system - The Hindu

any recent news on this "India Microprocessor" it would be tough competition against Intel.

 

[Donatello]

Is there a trolling advisory for you as well?

New advisory has been in effect for a while.

 

[Mr.UTurn]

any recent news on this "India Microprocessor" it would be tough competition against Intel.

We have the talent but sadly severely lack the funds. Also government work is riddled with red tape and corruption.

NVIDIA's Logan was a designed in india GPU (Bangalore ) ...

 

[Tangent]

Scores of scientists are in the course of deciding the locations where the supercomputers would be installed. A three-tiered model as suggested in the 12th Five Year Plan (2012-2017) would be followed – small scale HPC systems will be located at local level institutions, medium scale systems at regional level and high scale systems at the national level. A three-tiered system will also be followed in terms of computing power each location will have.”

The supercomputers to be installed will be a combination of power – some will be in terraflops, while others would be in petaflops.

...Good initative..
..but the selection of universities has to be good...what the institues intend to do with these..?
..I believe most of the systems would be pentaflop ...

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Is there a trolling advisory for you as well?

That is simply force of habit for @Donatello. After all he is a pdf analist....also seems to be afflicted by coprolagnia, going by his tendency to bring up toilets so easily.

 

[C130]

We have the talent but sadly severely lack the funds. Also government work is riddled with red tape and corruption.

NVIDIA's Logan was a designed in india GPU (Bangalore ) ...

Interesting. I wouldn't have high hopes, but anything is possible with some talent and investment.

 

[jamahir]

any recent news on this "India Microprocessor" it would be tough competition against Intel.

the "india microprocessor program" seems to have died.... no news of it since 2012... but it was never meant to give the world any radical new design... from the start, they were looking at opensparc processor ( from sun microsystems ) on which would be run the already available linux os.

as for drdo's "crash-proof hack-proof" new operating system for government/military/scientific needs, i saw a report in february this year, repeating the same statement the drdo chairman said when initiating the project in 2010... that they have assigned 150 "scientists" and engineers from all over india to this project and that they are from the "elite" "educational" and "research" institutions like the iit's and iisc and cdac... and that they need five more years... so, not one design drawing on a white board in four years... and they need five more...

microprocessor and operating system will never be designed within india... such things require a different way of thinking...

 

[Capt.Popeye]

the "india microprocessor program" seems to have died.... no news of it since 2012... but it was never meant to give the world any radical new design... from the start, they were looking at opensparc processor ( from sun microsystems ) on which would be run the already available linux os.

as for drdo's "crash-proof hack-proof" new operating system for government/military/scientific needs, i saw a report in february this year, repeating the same statement the drdo chairman said when initiating the project in 2010... that they have assigned 150 "scientists" and engineers from all over india to this project and that they are from the "elite" "educational" and "research" institutions like the iit's and iisc and cdac... and that they need five more years... so, not one design drawing on a white board in four years... and they need five more...

microprocessor and operating system will never be designed within india... such things require a different way of thinking...

Like the Gadha fi way....perhaps?

 

[rohitshubham]

... haha more funds... just keep the funds flowing ... hopefully if everything goes right i will get a nice share... coincidentally i will start my work with CDAC for creating high performance clusters using spark as a side project from next month.

 

[Skull and Bones]

the "india microprocessor program" seems to have died.... no news of it since 2012... but it was never meant to give the world any radical new design... from the start, they were looking at opensparc processor ( from sun microsystems ) on which would be run the already available linux os.

as for drdo's "crash-proof hack-proof" new operating system for government/military/scientific needs, i saw a report in february this year, repeating the same statement the drdo chairman said when initiating the project in 2010... that they have assigned 150 "scientists" and engineers from all over india to this project and that they are from the "elite" "educational" and "research" institutions like the iit's and iisc and cdac... and that they need five more years... so, not one design drawing on a white board in four years... and they need five more...

microprocessor and operating system will never be designed within india... such things require a different way of thinking...

Not a different way of thinking, but a sustained policy for research and development. If any Indian RnD firm starts to develop a microprocessor from scratch, by the time it will step out from the fabrication facility, it wil already be 2 generations old. The best policy would be to acquire firms and continue with their research and developments. Or, as of now, the best policy will be to design the microprocessor, and send the design to TSMC to be fabricated.

And investing in miniaturising is natural for fab facilities, so I don't expect any government entity to succeed in any such venture, neither does any private entity will invest without any substantial guarantee of profit. As it can be seen, many companies like IBM, Qualcomm and Texas Instrument has sold or planning to sell off their fabrication facilities, because it is not much profitable for them anymore.

 

[Skull and Bones]

... haha more funds... just keep the funds flowing ... hopefully if everything goes right i will get a nice share... coincidentally i will start my work with CDAC for creating high performance clusters using spark as a side project from next month.

CDAC is doing great job in the field of computing, even with their somewhat limited resources. Best of luck.

 

[jamahir]

Like the Gadha fi way....perhaps?

indeed... the gaddafi way...

our movement's project has been designing a clock-less microprocessor, its operating system and the portable computer the first two sit in... all three have a socialist political basis.

Not a different way of thinking, but a sustained policy for research and development. If any Indian RnD firm starts to develop a microprocessor from scratch, by the time it will step out from the fabrication facility, it wil already be 2 generations old.

that is why i hinted at radical way of looking at computing, which has political basis... a radical design in microprocessor will not make it obsolete in some time because there no competitors in the beginning ( or later )... for example, my movement's clock-less microprocessor design... yes, it has taken us five years to come to a stage where we can prototype the design on fpga but even now there are no competitors... because we thought radical, technologically and politically.

The best policy would be to acquire firms and continue with their research and developments.

then they won't have anything they can call their own, yes??

Or, as of now, the best policy will be to design the microprocessor, and send the design to TSMC to be fabricated.

i wish them good luck...

As it can be seen, many companies like IBM, Qualcomm and Texas Instrument has sold or planning to sell off their fabrication facilities, because it is not much profitable for them anymore.

that is also because of market saturation and economic crash in the western bloc.

 

[mike2000]

nice. so are these going to be hybrid based?? use intel and nvidia processors??

ahahhahahaha, come on man, be more optimistic. At least India is starting, you got to start somehwere, did the U.S also not learn/copied from others(especially the U.K and other european powers back then) before it got to where it is today? Or did it just emerged out of nowhere to superpowerdom? You have to start somehwere, so lets encourage our indian friends.