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The Tollywood blockbuster is a hit on Netflix, but its casteist politics aren’t so simple.
By Ritesh Babu Jul 20, 2022, 9:00am EDT


S.S. Rajamouli’s RRR (Rise, Roar, Revolt) has taken the world by storm. It’s one of the most expensive Indian films ever made, and one of the most successful, becoming the fourth-highest-grossing Indian film of all time. Even Netflix, which has been streaming the movie since May, declared it to be the most watched Indian film on its service, viewed over 45 million times globally. Critics love it, and its GIFs and scenes have swept social media. It’s an undeniable slam-dunk of global success. Coming out of the Telugu-language film industry of Tollywood in South India, as opposed to the more popular Hindi-language industry of Bollywood, this period drama from India’s biggest filmmaker is a cinematic event.

Centered on Alluri Sitarama Raju and Komaram Bheem, two very real Indian freedom fighters from the Telugu regions of Andhra and Telangana respectively, the film is a fantasy of the past. RRR imagines a fictitious, impossible friendship between these two figures of history as they come together and team up to fight the forces of British colonialism in 1920s pre-independence India. And it boasts two superstars of South Indian film — Ram Charan (who plays Alluri Sitarama Raju, also known as Rama Raju) and N.T. Rama Rao Jr. (who plays Komaram Bheem) as the two leads, both heirs to powerful film dynasties in Tollywood.
Rama Raju was an upper-caste man who helped lead the rebellions and resistance of Adivasis, the Indigenous people, against the British, while Komaram Bheem was an Adivasi icon and a revolutionary from the marginalized Gond people. They’re both key figures in Telugu history, albeit unequally. While Komaram Bheem, as an Indigenous protector of his people, has a lasting legacy, he’s hardly received the same level of sustained adoration as an upper-caste hero like Rama Raju, who was the subject of a classic ’70s film.
Statues of Rama Raju, left, and Komaram Bheem.

RRR director Rajamouli’s film is part of that legacy, bringing the two heroes together, playing like the apotheosis of his work. His films are full of big emotions, enthralling action set pieces, sweeping gestures, and memorably epic soundtracks. They’re the kind of movies you watch at a theater with a big audience, as people cheer and wolf-whistle. Coming off the Baahubali duology of sword-and-sorcery epics, which were some of the biggest Indian films of the past decade, RRR is a level-up. It’s a maximalist blockbuster that feels like an ode to much of what we love about the theatrical experience.

To a global audience inundated with an endless slurry of corporate superhero content, facing a landscape more and more bound to franchises, shared universes, and IP, the film is an increasingly rare gem of blockbuster filmmaking. It’s devoid of the trademark self-aware, winking irony of most American blockbusters, instead going all-in on sincerity. But most importantly? It’s new. RRR’s influences are not familiar ground for most global audiences. It emerges from a wildly different cultural landscape and filmmaking tradition. Where else can you find a three-hour musical epic with an electrifying and rip-roaring dance battle in defiance of a colonizer’s cruelty?

Where else do you get a ridiculously thrilling title-drop 40 minutes into the film, as though you were watching Drive My Car, for an action epic that feels like an event?
It’s the kind of big movie that reminds you of the sheer power of movies. It’s why so many of the responses to the film tend to be in the realm of hyperbole, as the film almost invites such a reaction. It’s a film that embodies the history and strength of Telugu cinema when it comes to myth-making.

But for all its thrills, RRR also comes with a set of issues that need scrutiny.
The film is, certainly, admirably anti-colonialist with its searing hatred for the British Empire and the white man’s burden. Its contempt for the colonizers, with action scenes showcasing tigers and leopards devouring them, is delightful and resonant.

But it is also emblematic of a larger current trend in Indian film — movies that stoke the flames of nationalism in the current India and its troubling political climate. And it is the most successful film of them all to date, reaching a far wider viewership, which is why it matters.

In RRR’s case, the problem is that it is very much a fantasy of the upper-caste Hindu gaze, and all those willing to go along with its hegemony.
Now, what do I mean by that? To unpack that, let’s dig into that which has long ruled the fate of India: the caste system.

Hindutva and the casteist monster​

The caste system has oppressed, and continues to oppress, legions across history. It’s a mechanism by which theological justifications are provided for a horrific hierarchy and inequality, raising up the upper castes and helping them shore up their power, while keeping down all they deem as “lower” than them. It has been historically used to dehumanize people, with evils such as the infamous “untouchability,” denial of access to public services, and prohibitions against inter-caste marriages. Issues such as land ownership and prosecution of crimes are key struggles informed by the realities of caste. While there has been progress over the past century, the grim prejudices persist.

At the top of the order are Brahmins (the priestly class), followed by Kshatriyas (the warrior/ruling class), then Vaishyas (the merchant class), and Shudras (the labor class). Below all of them are the Dalits, whom the system views as “the untouchables.” This hierarchical view of reality is a troubling one. And it extends to how the ruling elite view the Adivasis (the Indigenous people) who exist outside the caste system. They see them as below them and their Brahmanical supremacy.

IN THE MODERN AGE, CASTE PRIVILEGE IS NOT GONE, AND NEITHER IS CASTEIST DISCRIMINATION
During the early 20th century, this monster met another horrific monster: European fascism. Specifically, the Italian fascism of Mussolini and the Nazism of Adolf Hitler’s Germany. Forged in the flames of vile hatred, this would give birth to a political ideology that now rules over the current modern India: Hindutva, a belief system envisioned by extremist right-wing Hindu political figures and enforced by militant groups like the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS). Its goal is to see India transformed from a secular nation into a Hindu Rashtra/Hindu state. It views the Muslim as the ultimate enemy, a foreign invader and serious threat to their way of life. It conflates conspiracy with history, mythology with reality, and hopes to replace the constitution with something far more regressive and oppressive. This is especially relevant given that India is currently ruled over by the Hindutva RSS political party in the form of the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP). Led by Narendra Modi, the modern face of Hindutva, the group won big and came into power in 2014. It represents a terrifying new India.

Hindutva is a project that aspires to flatten and reduce myriad diverse groups and people into a generic abstract of the Hindu. It’s useful to ask who benefits here; what is the purpose of this fascist flattening and uniting? Many of the chief architects of this ideology — founders, key influencers, or the architects and leaders of its militant enforcers — were, unsurprisingly, of the highest caste, Brahmins.
One of the central texts to Hindutva and its history, We, Or Our Nationhood Defined, makes the ideology’s ties to Nazism explicit. It suggests that India could learn from Nazi Germany and its attempts to “keep up the purity of the race and its culture.” Thus, the construction of the Muslim as the enemy, the invader, and the foreign threat, which serves to create a demonized Other against which a “unity” of the abstracted “Hindu” can be built.

When you give the people who might rise up against you a common constructed enemy who you outline as below them, you are saying, “Oppress them with us and you too can be part of our glorious hegemony.” Certainly, individuals from marginalized caste backgrounds can be granted power, but only as symbols to inspire other oppressed people into serving the system of oppression itself, which must forever be in place.
In the modern age, caste privilege is not gone, and neither is casteist discrimination. Hindutva being a hybrid of casteism and fascism means it is fundamentally an ideology of inequality. Its agents might tokenistically attempt to appeal to marginalized people, and attempt to co-opt radical icons, but the reality of it is systemic oppression, just masked a bit differently. Even in America, casteism runs wild, though communities attempt to keep the pretense of being post-caste, painting it as an ancient relic. It’s hard to escape upper-caste thinking, no matter where you are.

SINCE THE ASCENT OF MODI AND THE BJP, THE COUNTRY HAS DESCENDED INTO A NIGHTMARISH CLIMATE OF FEAR AND OPPRESSION
All of which brings us to the current moment in India. Since the ascent of Modi and the BJP, the country has descended into a nightmarish climate of fear and oppression, wherein religious minorities are under threat, Islamophobia is at an all-time high, bigotry runs free, the rich grow richer, the poor grow poorer, and Adivasi lands and rights are violated. History itself is under threat and is in the process of being rewritten, from disinformation in the media to alterations to education in schools.

And those who speak up are punished or made examples of. Even the arts have come under siege, as an endless parade of period pieces display the Muslim invader, the foreign Muslim, the evil Muslim, and other such variants that terrorize the valiant Hindu heroes. Such clear Hindu-washed historicals serving Hindutva talking points are all over Bollywood (consider this year’s biggest Bollywood film, Kashmir Files, a conspiracy-theory spin on history). All this has only fomented and fanned more hatred and calls for violence against the oppressed.

This is the context in which RRR was released. And while it might be an exciting romp, the film doesn’t offer any reprieve from the upper-caste vision that brought us here.

The way the caste system operates in the Telugu regions is crucial in this case. It’s slightly different from the conventional setup — divided into Brahmins, followed by a smattering of middle-caste non-Brahmins, and below them, Dalits. Certain non-Brahmins like the land-owning Kamma and Kapu castes, who dominate the region, are effectively upper-caste. And they’ve long held power over the arts.

The Brahmanical Hindu fantasy of reality​

RRR, in the end, is unable to escape the shackles of this troubling system. S.S. Rajamouli comes from an upper-caste background, a fact that’s evident in his films but is important to note. So does N.T. Rama Rao (NTR). Rajamouli and NTR are of the Kamma caste, while Ram Charan is of the Kapu caste, both of which hold a strong sway in the Telugu states.

Rajamouli’s influences are very much the Hindu epics such as The Ramayana and The Mahabharata, as well as the Indian Amar Chitra Katha comics — largely retellings of classic Hindu epics or stories. The epics, and the comics drawing upon them, largely center on upper-caste heroes, whether the divine Ram in Ramayana or the mighty Pandavas in Mahabharata. These upper-caste champions inhabit Hindu worlds and mythologies that have caste built into them, and as such have very clear political implications and material impact. It is why there has been a long history of critique aimed at these epics. The interpretations, readings, and ideologies drawn from these stories have very real repercussions.

In the Ramayana, Lord Ram is the avatar of Vishnu, the divine protector who descends to the mortal realm to restore balance to the world. Ram is the ideal man, born into an upper-caste dynasty of kings in Ayodhya, and his reign is seen as the ultimate utopian period of existence. The idea of “Ram Rajya” (Ram’s reign/rule/kingdom), which emerges from the text, is the mythic idealized (Brahmanical) past that Hindutva agents view as their righteous duty to restore. It is the idea of the golden age of the past that has material consequences. It is why the Ramayana and Ram are invoked in many hate crimes committed by Hindutva assailants, with “Jai Shree Ram!” (All Hail Lord Ram!) being uttered amid many cruelties. It is why there’s been a decades-long conflict like the Ayodhya dispute, wherein Hindutva agents have sought to tear down a mosque to build a temple for Ram in its place. Given that these epics have been manipulated and shaped to serve pernicious ideas like the caste system and Hindu nationalism, invoking them requires care, consideration, and serious thought.

In that film, the Kalakeyas are dark-skinned, casteless, uncultured, and murderous savages who must be taken down by the “civilized” and fairer-skinned noble Kshatriya heroes of the caste system. Even the language of this obvious racist, colorist caricature is inspired by the southern language of Tamil. And the films are steeped in and reinforce casteist frameworks even in their imaginary fantasy visions. As Rajamouli himself posted on social media:
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It’s every bit as visible in RRR, too. It may not trade in the “demonizing” creed of casteism, but it trades that for the more “benign” and “liberal” vision of the casteist lens. It is why you have Ram uplifted as the “well-educated upper-caste savior with a vision” and Bheem reduced to “uneducated noble savage who must be taught the ‘civilized’ ways.” For all that it claims to be a tribute to two legends, it is one that is deeply unequal.

RRR MANAGES TO DEPICT ADIVASIS AS COMPATRIOTS INSTEAD OF ENEMIES, AND SEEMS TO THINK THAT’S GENEROUS ENOUGH
Rajamouli’s work merely reproduces all the worst aspects of his influences and upbringing without ever critically questioning them. It’s an upper-caste boy’s privileged roller-coaster ride, which comes easily to someone who hasn’t had to experience the oppressive realities and horrors of the system. His work’s deep casteism reinforces a Brahmanical vision of the universe.

It is why Komaram Bheem, a well-educated man who could read and write, is reduced to an illiterate simpleton, playing to historic Adivasi stereotypes. It is why you have a scene wherein he exclaims he is but a simple tribal person who did not and could not understand the greater vision of the upper-caste savior Ram. It’s also why the Gonds are framed as a “simple” people, compared to sheep, with Bheem having to ask Ram for the gift of education.

And it is also why, in the end, Bheem’s real revolutionary slogan of “Jal, Jangal, Jameen,” his iconic contribution, which is vital to Adivasi activism to this day, is altered to be written and inscribed instead by the upper-caste Kshatriya hero Ram. It is, as Gond journalist and critic Akash Poyam described in depth, deeply dehumanizing and appropriative.
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The Gonds are framed as a “simple” people — Komaram Bheem included — and are reduced to Adivasi stereotypes. DVV Entertainment/Netflix
RRR manages to depict Adivasis as compatriots instead of enemies, and seems to think that’s generous enough. But the movie still presents Adivasis as, at best, simpletons who aid the journeys of the central, all-important upper-caste heroes. They are people who must be taught, civilized, and guided along by the vision of the upper-caste Hindu hand. All that they are or ever will be is because the upper-caste hero was there to help them along. Perhaps crystallizing that best is the fact that NTR, the upper-caste Hindu (and from the same Kamma caste as Rajamouli), is cast as Bheem, rather than any actual Adivasi performer. This is a fact made all the more bitter given the history of Gond resistance to the land-owning Kamma-Kapu dominance, and Komaram Bheem’s own anti-landlord politics.

Every choice made in the film is deeply steeped in and informed by a privileged upper-caste lens and framework that brutally reinforces the invisible Brahmanical hierarchy. That is precisely why its two leads, Ram and Bheem, are reduced to little more than the names and aesthetics of the real historical figures.

At every turn, Rajamouli de-specifies and decontextualizes, only to wrap everything up in his casteist status-quo-affirming lens. His work here is a casteist Hindu wash of history and the independence struggle.
This is a lens that is in line with Hindutva and very much appealing to it. It’s exactly this kind of convenient upper-caste Hindu viewpoint that helps sustain Hindutva ideology and its material harm. The film may not see Muslims as the demonic enemy to be slain, but it does see them as subservient (much like Bheem and the Adivasis are subservient) to a “Hindu unity” of heroism and fight for freedom. It’s effectively “You can exist so long as it’s within this invisible hierarchy, assimilated, wherein we’re still at the top and all-important.”

The end credits, which valorize historic heroes of the nation, put a fine, final point on this troubling upper-caste Hindu lens. Nowhere in this lineup of luminaries will you find icons of a secular India such as Mahatma Gandhi or Jawaharlal Nehru, the founders of the nation, whom Hindutva agents are not terribly fond of. And what of Muslim kings like Hyder Ali or Tipu Sultan, who also stood against the British and were part of key battles against them? And the presence of Muslim freedom fighters like Saifuddin Kitchlew? Not a chance. Do not even expect to see progressive and radical Dalit revolutionaries like B.R. Ambedkar, who stood firmly for the annihilation of caste. You will, however, find the Hindu king Chhatrapathi Shivaji in it, who never even fought the British, but has been co-opted to be a Hindutva favorite. The credits certainly feel like they’re peddling a curated vision of history and the freedom fight right in line with it.

RRR’s global success is a thrilling leap for Indian cinema. Its spectacle and stand against the British Empire is deserving of celebration. But it’s important to look at the Indian people not just in relation to their white oppressors. Instead, the complex inner dynamics must be considered and examined, for that is the way to see the Indian people in the film in all their humanity.

And by the time the credits have finished rolling, it’s hard not to see RRR as a product of careless upper-caste Hindu imagination. Its disservice and rewriting toward Bheem and the Gonds cannot go ignored. Its evident hierarchical view and minimization of Muslims in favor of a constructed Hindu “unity” must be noted. Its ideological positioning must be taken into account. And it must be considered for the troublingly casteist fantasy it is.
RRR has been described by some as revolutionary, and the title itself evokes revolutionary words. But that feels off-mark. Being revolutionary requires a willingness to tear down the oppressive hierarchies and systems that stand in the way of progress. RRR is all too content to blindly uphold them.
https://www.vox.com/23220275/rrr-netflix-tollywood-hindutva-caste-system
 
For those who find this article too long, let me break it down for you.

Its suppose to be a review of a Movie about Freedom struggle against the British. However THIS is what the articles talks about, it mentions,

Caste - 61 Times
Hindu - 39 Times
Adivasi - 12 Times
Muslim - 9 Times
India - 5 Times
Brahmin - 5 Times
Dalit - 3 Times
Shudra - 2 Times

Human - 0 Times
Freedom - 3 Times
British - 3 Times


So in short, THIS is the gist of the article,

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Sadly it makes no mention of Cow or Curry or Sati.
 
For those who find this article too long, let me break it down for you.

Its suppose to be a review of a Movie about Freedom struggle against the British. However THIS is what the articles talks about, it mentions,

Caste - 61 Times
Hindu - 39 Times
Adivasi - 12 Times
Muslim - 9 Times
India - 5 Times
Brahmin - 5 Times
Dalit - 3 Times
Shudra - 2 Times

Human - 0 Times
Freedom - 3 Times
British - 3 Times


So in short, THIS is the gist of the article,

Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Adivasi Adivasi Adivasi Adivasi Adivasi Adivasi Adivasi Adivasi Adivasi Adivasi Adivasi Adivasi Muslim Muslim Muslim Muslim Muslim Muslim Muslim Muslim Muslim India India India India India Brahmin Brahmin Brahmin Brahmin Brahmin Dalit Dalit Dalit Shudra Shudra Freedom Freedom Freedom British British British

Sadly it makes no mention of Cow or Curry or Sati.
Hinduis/Upper caste like you will find it inpalatable, :whistle:
And how many times do RSS/BJP say Muslim or religious conversion ? Or Aurangzeb did this Tipu sultan did that ? You don't remember humanity then, because its convenient.
 
Hinduis/Upper caste like you will find it inpalatable, :whistle:
And how many times do RSS/BJP say Muslim or religious conversion ? Or Aurangzeb did this Tipu sultan did that ? You don't remember humanity then, because its convenient.
it's the classic NRA approach. if a mass shooting culprit is a white person, they say 'It's too soon. We shouldn't do politics on this out of respect for the dearly departed.'
If the shooter is a lowly brown person or worse, a Muslim, they say 'We've tolerated this bloodshed for far too long. We should do something about this before it's too late.'
 
I had heard about this film, had no clue it was a big hit. Not much into Indian movies, mostly find them tasteless and pathetic.
 
For those who find this article too long, let me break it down for you.

Its suppose to be a review of a Movie about Freedom struggle against the British. However THIS is what the articles talks about, it mentions,

Caste - 61 Times
Hindu - 39 Times
Adivasi - 12 Times
Muslim - 9 Times
India - 5 Times
Brahmin - 5 Times
Dalit - 3 Times
Shudra - 2 Times

Human - 0 Times
Freedom - 3 Times
British - 3 Times


So in short, THIS is the gist of the article,

Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Caste Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Hindu Adivasi Adivasi Adivasi Adivasi Adivasi Adivasi Adivasi Adivasi Adivasi Adivasi Adivasi Adivasi Muslim Muslim Muslim Muslim Muslim Muslim Muslim Muslim Muslim India India India India India Brahmin Brahmin Brahmin Brahmin Brahmin Dalit Dalit Dalit Shudra Shudra Freedom Freedom Freedom British British British

Sadly it makes no mention of Cow or Curry or Sati.
Looks like the author has nothing but deeply myopic observations. If you watch the movie you are not going there for what caste each actor belongs to. You want to be entertained. RRR does that with background setting of coloniel rule in india. It is classic good triumph over evil story. Enjoy and forget you read this nonsense.
 
Looks like the author has nothing but deeply myopic observations. If you watch the movie you are not going there for what caste each actor belongs to. You want to be entertained. RRR does that with background setting of coloniel rule in india. It is classic good triumph over evil story. Enjoy and forget you read this nonsense.
Gone are the days when you could get away with these sly tricks to manipulate OBC SC ST.
Bahubali movie also is just propaganda showing its right if Lower caste should remain in caste system as subservient, and not chose freedom and better opportunity in other religions.
I had the doubts but tweets by the director and subsequent movies just confirmed it.
Richest OBC happens to be muslim, who made his fortune in Gulf https://www.forbes.com/profile/ma-yusuff-ali/?sh=71f043804b26
@jamahir
 
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Gone are the days when you could get away with these sly tricks to manipulate OBC SC ST.
Bahubali movie also is just propaganda showing its right if Lower caste should remain in caste system as subservient, and not chose freedom and better opportunity in other religions.
I had the doubts but tweets by the director and subsequent movies just confirmed it.
Richest OBC happens to be muslim, who made his fortune in Gulf https://www.forbes.com/profile/ma-yusuff-ali/?sh=71f043804b26
@jamahir
What are you suggesting? That they intended to portray adivasi in bad light as helpless, uneducated people.

My take is that the story demanded that so has to generate enough sympathy and root for underdogs- in this case the obc or adivasi people. Now a British person watching the movie would say we never were that evil 😈. You can't be politically correct in a fictional story.
 
Looks like the author has nothing but deeply myopic observations. If you watch the movie you are not going there for what caste each actor belongs to. You want to be entertained. RRR does that with background setting of coloniel rule in india. It is classic good triumph over evil story. Enjoy and forget you read this nonsense.

The Dalit student Rohith Vemula didn't quite "enjoy" and wasn't "entertained" by the upper caste oppression against him and he suicided in 2016.

A film is not just listening to words and watching the scenes but understanding the intent behind those words and scenes. Hindutvadis got outraged at Alia Bhatt's ad for Manyavar suitings last year. The ad was set in a Hindu wedding ceremony and had Alia being a bride and asking for "Kanyamaan" ( respect for the new wife at her husband's house ) instead of "Kanyadaan" ( the traditional abandoning of the bride by her parents into the house of the new husband where she is left at the whims, fancies and mercy of her in-laws and husband ). Was Alia asking for anything irrational ? No, she and the ad asked for justice and rationality yet the Hindutvadis were outraged at the ad. Don't the Hindutvadis like being just and rational ?

But this film, Baahubali, that you don't protest, is full of misogyny and oppression against those not Brahmans, Kshatriyas and Vaishyas. Why don't you protest ? Do you not understand how easily the idiot public in India accepted this oppression-propagating film, made it a superhit and how easily the same idiot public accepts the many daily political, social and socio-economic oppressions, injustices and disparities outside the cinema hall in India ?

The Hindutvadis are being contradictory. Or just themselves really. Protesting against the Alia ad because it propagated justice and rationality, and not protesting against the film Baahubali precisely because it propagates oppression against the females and the lower castes and being irrational.

And it is strange to see @Skull and Bones Like your post despite he saying that he was deeply imposed upon by his family because he didn't want the choice of academics that his family was imposing on him.

What are you suggesting? That they intended to portray adivasi in bad light as helpless, uneducated people.

My take is that the story demanded that so has to generate enough sympathy and root for underdogs- in this case the obc or adivasi people. Now a British person watching the movie would say we never were that evil 😈. You can't be politically correct in a fictional story.

Didn't you see the tweet copied in the OP that Rajamouli, the director of Baahubali, posted years ago ? He called Dalits as parasites and that idea is what he presents in the film.

Gone are the days when you could get away with these sly tricks to manipulate OBC SC ST.
Bahubali movie also is just propaganda showing its right if Lower caste should remain in caste system as subservient, and not chose freedom and better opportunity in other religions.
I had the doubts but tweets by the director and subsequent movies just confirmed it.
Richest OBC happens to be muslim, who made his fortune in Gulf https://www.forbes.com/profile/ma-yusuff-ali/?sh=71f043804b26
@jamahir

1. I didn't get alert for your tagging me. This happens a lot with me. I came to this thread and say your tag. So next time if I don't reply to your tagging me in a couple of days please check if I am banned or if not then please select any post I have made and reply to it. I think quoted replies to posts always work.

2. I have seen Rajamouli's tweet on velivada.com ( for others, it is a site where mostly are writings about oppression on the lower castes ). The article about it and Baahubali in turn called the priests as the parasites and rightly so.

3. I don't really like this "Muslim" owner of the Lulu group. He has installed a huge mall in UP which would of course have been constructed in collaboration with Yogi. Secondly, he has a mall in Saudia that is managed by an all-female worker set but modern Indian Muslim style - all full burqas - despite Saudia itself changing and enabling natural participation of females in public.
 
I had heard about this film, had no clue it was a big hit. Not much into Indian movies, mostly find them tasteless and pathetic.


Bollywood movies have stupid plots and practically are all musicals. But ive heard there is a alternative scene and more artsy movies out there too but they lack the big budget and have limited mass appeal.
 
Racism, casteism is part and parcel of Indian society, no denying that.
But as time is passing we are moving away from these archaic evils.
Hopefully someday it will vanish and everyone will remember it as a part of disgusting past.

But, the OP trying to insinuate caste tension via a masala movie is kind of an pathetic attempt.
I would say grow up, watch movies as they are, try to enjoy them or simply ignore/ don't watch.
These petty attempts at drawing attention to a serious issue through unrelated trivial means such as movies,tweets etc may transform the core issue and the resulting discussion superficial.
But it most definitely makes the OP a certified dimwit craving for attention.
Grow up and try to do better.
 
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Racism, casteism is part and parcel of Indian society, no denying that.
But as time is passing we are moving away from these archaic evils.
Hopefully someday it will vanish and everyone will remember it as a part of disgusting past.

But, the OP trying to insinuate caste tension via a masala movie is kind of an pathetic attempt.
I would say grow up, watch movies as they are, try to enjoy them or simply ignore/ don't watch.
These petty attempts at drawing attention to a serious issue through unrelated trivial means such as movies,tweets etc may transform the core issue and the resulting discussion superficial.
But it most definitely makes the OP a certified dimwit craving for attention.
Grow up and try to do better.

The second part of your post contradicts the first. You being irrational and going by your post you didn't not even read my post# 10 despite this thread being only in page 1. It is you being the infant here, an infant of the ordinary kind.
 
The second part of your post contradicts the first. You being irrational and going by your post you didn't not even read my post# 10 despite this thread being only in page 1. It is you being the infant here, an infant of the ordinary kind.
Sorry I didn't read your post.
I posted and just went out, still haven't, but i will later.
Btw, how does my post contradicts itself.
I agree that there are such social evils still exist in Indian society.
In the second part of my post, I expressed my irritation on the topic starter, who has tied an important social issue with an irrelevant masala movie. What relevance does this movie RRR has with casteism, racism.

Was the movie condoning casteism. Did it appreciate or approved of casteist behavior?
What else ? Nothing but a childish attempt to grab eyeballs by putting the movie name RRR.

I think you just didn't understand my post.
 
Sorry I didn't read your post.
I posted and just went out, still haven't, but i will later.
Btw, how does my post contradicts itself.
I agree that there are such social evils still exist in Indian society.
In the second part of my post, I expressed my irritation on the topic starter, who has tied an important social issue with an irrelevant masala movie. What relevance does this movie RRR has with casteism, racism.

Was the movie condoning casteism. Did it appreciate or approved of casteist behavior?
What else ? Nothing but a childish attempt to grab eyeballs by putting the movie name RRR.

I think you just didn't understand my post.

I haven't watched RRR and base my comments on the review in the OP. Yes, it is a masala film which seems to have brought together two freedom fighters who in reality probably didn't ever meet. Rajamouli did this trick like how in the Hindi film Devdas the director in the most silly way brought together the two heroines of the story who probably never meet in the story. Yes, RRR is a masala film, what from me seeing a promo on TV, one of the two heroes challenging a tiger whose face comes a few centimeters from his face. And presentation of the two heroes in a Hindutvatized way and this is in keeping with Rajamouli's beliefs in the caste system as his tweet in the OP so clearly presents. But the film speaks of two real people so it should have been a reality-presenting film. If The Kashmir Files supposedly presented reality then why didn't RRR present the state of the tribal leader's community which the OP writes as marginalized ? Rajamouli should be called out for this.
 

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