Rice exports: Pakistan loses market to India

[nana41]

Let me speak the plain truth about Pakistani rice.

Being ‘Nan eaters’ we don’t eat rice everyday.. We eat rice may be two or three times a week when pillow or biryani is cooked. However when we have visitors rice dish is a must. Hence a 10 Kg rice pack lasts for months. I always purchased Pakistani ‘Laila’ or ‘Badshah’ rice; the quality was not great but satisfactory.

During a recent visit to Dubai my wife was staying at her niece who eats rice with every meal. The pillow there was far more aromatic and of better quality than we make in London. My wife was told by her niece that she buys the Indian ‘Trophy’ rice from the shop next door. On return we purchased the ‘Tilda’ brand rice of India. I found it to be of excellent quality and comparable to what I used to get in Pakistan during the 60’s. Since then we have been buying Indian Tilda rice and pillow & biryani from it is of better quality than made for Laila or Badshah brands. Tilda is no doubt more expensive but since we don’t consume it every day, extra expense is negligible.

I have therefore come to the conclusion that at least the Tilda brand of rice is superior to Pakistani brands normally available in the UK. It is therefore possible that Iranian decision may also have something to do with quality. It appears that like everyone else in Pakistan, Pakistan Rice exporters also want to get rich quick and are not letting the basmati rice ‘Age’ long enough. When we don’t mind selling second quality medicines, why not rice?

Should overseas Pakistanis doubt my judgement; I suggest they buy a small pack of Tilda and of Pakistan rice, cook pillow or biryani exactly the same way from both the varieties and judge for themselves.

With rulers like "businessman"nawaz shareef and "Dr"10% zardari,nothing is going to change.

 

[yolo2016]

Most the Pakistani manufacturers are addicted to protectionism introduced by Bhutto to guarantee market share..which is forcing Pakistan consumers to pay top dollar prices for 1970's designed junk...as in the case of Pak Suzuki...and market liberalization will force these crooks out of business..plain and simple...The Chinese are coming in with superior quality and management if you work with the right person...

Don't be blinded my man, this is beyond protectionism, this wilfully flooding the market, undercutting other companies. They've done so in the U.S too, so this not some lack of free market/competition issue.

The chinese decimated your rich cultural generations old, handed down generation after generation, cottage industry replaced it with quality stuff?

When chinese start a project in Pakistan, they refuse to use Pakistani companies as suppliers in "EVERY" instance, not because of quality issues but simply to help their own companies. Is that because Pakistani companies are incapable of producing quality services in every instance? OH- let's not forget that all these funded projects by chinese are at highest interest rates that pay back will burden pakistani children and grandchildren for decades to come.

They flood the market with below market prices because their government subsidies to sell them below cost. Btw, they have done so world over.

 

[Shakuni & Ravan]

India is the largest rice exporter in the world

http://www.worldstopexports.com/rice-exports-country/

Below are the 15 countries that exported the highest dollar value worth of rice during 2015:

1. India: US$6.4 billion (30.1% of total rice exports)
2. Thailand: $4.5 billion (21.4%)
3. United States: $2.1 billion (9.7%)
4. Pakistan: $1.9 billion (9.1%)
5. Vietnam: $1.6 billion (7.5%)
6. Italy: $591.8 million (2.8%)
7. Uruguay: $377.4 million (1.8%)
8. Brazil: $350.2 million (1.7%)
9. Cambodia: $335.1 million (1.6%)
10. Australia: $301.2 million (1.4%)
11. China: $267.4 million (1.3%)
12. Belgium: $242.3 million (1.1%)
13. Guyana: $212.1 million (1%)
14. Netherlands: $191.3 million (0.9%)
15. Spain: $168.5 million (0.8%)

Among the above countries, the only exporters to grow the value of their rice shipments since 2011 were Cambodia (up 215%), India (up 56.6%), Guyana (up 43.2%) and Australia (up 10.2%).

Those countries that posted declines in their exported rice sales were led by Vietnam (down -56.3%), Brazil (down -42.9%), China (down -37.4%) and Thailand (down -30.2%).

The listed 15 countries shipped 92.1% of all rice exports in 2015 (by value).

 

[yolo2016]

OMG a butt hurt vietnamese saying that. With no data to be backed up with. Well you know what USA napalmed entire vietnamese and yet here you are hiding behind american flag

Perhaps your country's press is also "butt hurt" about it's own country when they have written articles to the same, OR chances are you are ignorant about chinese flooding cheap goods and decimating industries in pakistan, because you've programmed yourself to be their fanboy.

 

[Shakuni & Ravan]

Let me speak the plain truth about Pakistani rice.

Being ‘Nan eaters’ we don’t eat rice everyday.. We eat rice may be two or three times a week when pillow or biryani is cooked. However when we have visitors rice dish is a must. Hence a 10 Kg rice pack lasts for months. I always purchased Pakistani ‘Laila’ or ‘Badshah’ rice; the quality was not great but satisfactory.

During a recent visit to Dubai my wife was staying at her niece who eats rice with every meal. The pillow there was far more aromatic and of better quality than we make in London. My wife was told by her niece that she buys the Indian ‘Trophy’ rice from the shop next door. On return we purchased the ‘Tilda’ brand rice of India. I found it to be of excellent quality and comparable to what I used to get in Pakistan during the 60’s. Since then we have been buying Indian Tilda rice and pillow & biryani from it is of better quality than made for Laila or Badshah brands. Tilda is no doubt more expensive but since we don’t consume it every day, extra expense is negligible.

I have therefore come to the conclusion that at least the Tilda brand of rice is superior to Pakistani brands normally available in the UK. It is therefore possible that Iranian decision may also have something to do with quality. It appears that like everyone else in Pakistan, Pakistan Rice exporters also want to get rich quick and are not letting the basmati rice ‘Age’ long enough. When we don’t mind selling second quality medicines, why not rice?

Should overseas Pakistanis doubt my judgement; I suggest they buy a small pack of Tilda and of Pakistan rice, cook pillow or biryani exactly the same way from both the varieties and judge for themselves.

Thanks for honest opinion.In fact India are among few countries in this list where export of rice increased and also due to better quality and large NRI presence abroad.

"The following countries posted the highest positive net exports for rice during 2015. Investopedia defines net exports as the value of a country’s total exports minus the value of its total imports. Thus, the statistics below present the surplus between the value of each country’s rice exports and its import purchases for that same commodity.

1. India: US$6.4 billion (net export surplus up 56.6% since 2011)
2. Thailand: $4.5 billion (down -30.3%)
3. Pakistan: $1.9 billion (down -5.7%)
4. Vietnam: $1.6 billion (down -56.4%)
5. United States: $1.3 billion (down -10.7%)
6. Italy: $454.5 million (down -23.4%)
7. Uruguay: $376.9 million (down -19.8%)
8. Cambodia: $330.5 million (up 221.9%)
9. Guyana: $212 million (up 43.3%)
10. Brazil: $192.5 million (down -43.3%)
11. Australia: $153.3 million (up 40.8%)
12. Argentina: $151.8 million (down -57.4%)
13. Paraguay: $128.7 million (up 52.9%)
14. Myanmar (Burma): $107.4 million (down -58.4%)
15. Spain: $87.3 million (down -7.5%)

India has the highest surplus in the international trade of rice. In turn, this positive cashflow confirms India’s strong competitive advantage for this specific product category.

Welcome opinion from other non-residents if they use indian or pakistani rice

@Moonlight @Imran Khan @django @WaLeEdK2 @hussain0216 @Genghis khan1 @pakistani342 @Jaanbaz @dsr478 @Kaptaan @Taygibay @ghazi52 @Quwa

 

[maximuswarrior]

Pakistan is doing perfectly fine with its rice export. Comparing it with India is pathetic because this country is a big rice consuming nation. I don't have to say anything about its population numbers versus ours. It is natural for India to have a bigger export number compared to ours and that is nothing out of the extraordinary.

It is however a BS claim that quality wise Indian rice is better than Pakistani rice. Pakistani rice is awesome. In fact, quality wise Pakistani rice hands-down beats Indian rice. Not so long ago India was packaging Pakistani rice with its own label by buying it up through various means. I don't know whether this is still happening, but that should say something about the quality of our product.

He is vietnamese? Really?

He isn't a Vietnamese, but he is certainly a false flagging Indian. His lack of English spelling is a dead giveaway.

The chinese have decimated Pakistan's local industries, wiped them out. The chinese are flooding Indian markets with crap and trying to do the same.

AND YOU TWO countries are F___arguing about rice exports.

How did you come to that conclusion? If anything, China didn't bribe us with blood money like you have done. They are investing money in infrastructure projects. Tens of billions. Apply some Burnol, "American". I know it is difficult to accept the changing reality.

 

[livingdead]

In UK, indian branded rice are usually more expensive than pakistani one(kohinoor, akash)... tilda's owner was a gujju from uganda and sourced rice from india...
I cant tell the difference so I always buy pakistani ones... there are some discount or other with laila and badshah brand most of the year...

 

[yuba]

I cant tell the differance but i am not a big rice eater maybe once or twice month.Even then little on the side it does not feel like a meal unless i have roti or nan

 

[yolo2016]

He isn't a Vietnamese, but he is certainly a false flagging Indian. His lack of English spelling is a dead giveaway.

Before commenting on someone's typos or spelling, make sure to use proper grammar. You call me Indian and then a few sentences later call me American. ADHD must be to blame...

How did you come to that conclusion? If anything, China didn't bribe us with blood money like you have done. They are investing money in infrastructure projects. Tens of billions. Apply some Burnol, "American". I know it is difficult to accept the changing reality.

Is that how you thought to refute me_ with that one liner? I'm not surprised. Poor Netherlands; you are an embarrassment to Europe.

 

[livingdead]

Let me speak the plain truth about Pakistani rice.

Being ‘Nan eaters’ we don’t eat rice everyday.. We eat rice may be two or three times a week when pillow or biryani is cooked. However when we have visitors rice dish is a must. Hence a 10 Kg rice pack lasts for months. I always purchased Pakistani ‘Laila’ or ‘Badshah’ rice; the quality was not great but satisfactory.

During a recent visit to Dubai my wife was staying at her niece who eats rice with every meal. The pillow there was far more aromatic and of better quality than we make in London. My wife was told by her niece that she buys the Indian ‘Trophy’ rice from the shop next door. On return we purchased the ‘Tilda’ brand rice of India. I found it to be of excellent quality and comparable to what I used to get in Pakistan during the 60’s. Since then we have been buying Indian Tilda rice and pillow & biryani from it is of better quality than made for Laila or Badshah brands. Tilda is no doubt more expensive but since we don’t consume it every day, extra expense is negligible.

I have therefore come to the conclusion that at least the Tilda brand of rice is superior to Pakistani brands normally available in the UK. It is therefore possible that Iranian decision may also have something to do with quality. It appears that like everyone else in Pakistan, Pakistan Rice exporters also want to get rich quick and are not letting the basmati rice ‘Age’ long enough. When we don’t mind selling second quality medicines, why not rice?

Should overseas Pakistanis doubt my judgement; I suggest they buy a small pack of Tilda and of Pakistan rice, cook pillow or biryani exactly the same way from both the varieties and judge for themselves.

i doubt it has anything to do with quality.. its just that we got more surplus rice and we dont have good way to pay them for their oil... there is a trade deficit from indian side and we dont have many other products to sell to them..

 

[raj76]

It doesn't indicate any such thing, the story is also old and a patent agreement is still being etched out. It's been on hold due to the battle Indian growers had with the US company RiceTec.

its same rice except for the rice grown in the uttrakhand (its better) as well as india has developed better seeds (my city has one of the best agri universities in india) and finally better finishing (polishing) and packaging also sells well

 

[salarsikander]

In UK, indian branded rice are usually more expensive than pakistani one(kohinoor, akash)... tilda's owner was a gujju from uganda and sourced rice from india...
I cant tell the difference so I always buy pakistani ones... there are some discount or other with laila and badshah brand most of the year...

Khoinoor Ufff what did you remind me of. Yes, you can buy a good lot from Morrisons and Tesco

 

[niaz]

Pakistan is doing perfectly fine with its rice export. Comparing it with India is pathetic because this country is a big rice consuming nation. I don't have to say anything about its population numbers versus ours. It is natural for India to have a bigger export number compared to ours and that is nothing out of the extraordinary.

It is however a BS claim that quality wise Indian rice is better than Pakistani rice. Pakistani rice is awesome. In fact, quality wise Pakistani rice hands-down beats Indian rice. Not so long ago India was packaging Pakistani rice with its own label by buying it up through various means. I don't know whether this is still happening, but that should say something about the quality of our product.



He isn't a Vietnamese, but he is certainly a false flagging Indian. His lack of English spelling is a dead giveaway.



How did you come to that conclusion? If anything, China didn't bribe us with blood money like you have done. They are investing money in infrastructure projects. Tens of billions. Apply some Burnol, "American". I know it is difficult to accept the changing reality.

Honourable Sir,

If you read my post carefuly, I have stated that I found pillow from Tilda rice similar to one I used to eat in Pakistan during the 60's. Basmati rice qaulity improves with age. It is more than likely that Pakistani exporters don't let the rice age as much as some of the Indian brands.

I am now retired and my income including the odd consultancy work, is still rather limited. I am fussy about the quality of food items that I buy and I like good food and I regret my inability to travel to Pakistan to buy rice.

Switching to Indian produce was not easy because Tilda is more expensive. I however maintain that some brands of Indian basmati rice available in the UK super markets are superior to the two Pakistani brands (Laila & Badshah) that I used to buy from from the local Sainsbury.

 

[pakdefender]

Indian rice is inferior in quality to that which is grown in Pakistan in the indus basin

No matter what chut chaliki india do , they will not be able to grown the same quality rice as in Pakistan

What is a shame is that despite being blessed with the fertile lands of the indus , we have not fully capitalized on it

 

[Nilgiri]

There is a far greater number of Indian Brands then Pakistani counterparts ... while Indian rice has an attractive packing and comes in various price ranges, Pakistani rice is packed in an ugly gunny or plastic bag with almost uniform price range among all its brands ...

This packaging issue must expand to other products from Pakistan as well I feel.

I am tempted to try "national" brand pickle (achaar)....but the only format it arrives in Canada is in a plastic container instead of glass bottle. Thus I spend more money to get the indian brands.....if Pakistan can change to glass bottles, I would definitely give them a try....I just dont trust pickles in plastic....who knows what has leached into the pickle from the plastic through storage and all the acids/oils at work.

If anyone knows someone that works in the National pickle company, it would be great if they can tell them this....because this issue is not just limited to me.