Return to regionalism best way to improve ASEAN efficacy

[Viet]

More ASEAN countries should embargo Chinese if they still continue such brazen attitude ! Japanese should help all other ASEAN countries that need defense aid! Undermine Chinese brazen spirit!!!!!

Banzai!!!!!!!!!!!

You are right. We must kick chinese clowns out of all Asean meetings. Yes, more from Japan is always welcome.

Banzai!

 

[TaiShang]

You are right. We must kick chinese clowns out of all Asean meetings. Yes, more from Japan is always welcome.

Banzai!

Japan has territorial disputes with almost all of their neighbors. Therefore, you should listen to them as to how to behave.

You are at the bottom of ASEAN. Hence, your opinion matters only as much as your scale.

 

[Viet]

Japan has territorial disputes with almost all of their neighbors. Therefore, you should listen to them as to how to behave.

You are at the bottom of ASEAN. Hence, your opinion matters only as much as your scale.

Japan matters. Whatever you say otherwise is almost biased. You have more enemies than Japan. That is a fact. Nothing changes it despite your lie.

Are you dumb? I want to repeat here the basic principle of Asean: equatility and respect. That is something China never learns. Obviously. Every country within Asean is equal. The biggest country indonesia has the same right like the smallest brunei.

We are at the bottom? Who cares? You?

 

[TaiShang]

Japan matters. Whatever you say otherwise is almost biased. You have more enemies than Japan. That is a fact. Nothing changes it despite your lie.

Let's count:

Japan: Korea, Russia and China-Taiwan

China: India, Philippines, Vietnam.

How many neighbors China has? Most in the world?

How many neighbors Japan has?

Do the math.

Just because Korea or Russia do not jump and make noise like you do, it does not mean they d not have territorial disputes with Japan.

And how many territorial disputes Vietnam has?

Are you dumb? I want to repeat here the basic principle of Asean: equatility and respect. That is something China never learns. Obviously. Every country within Asean is equal. The biggest country indonesia has the same right like the smallest brunei.

Do not teach me ASEAN, since it is one of my specialties and I have been to Jakarta many times, visiting ASEAN HQ there and joining workshops.

This is Asian regionalism, which is the product of the entire region. Also called exclusive or soft regionalism. ASEAN+3 or ARF work under the same principles. This, however, does not mean that ASEAN lacks a de facto leader. It is just the nature of the social groupings.

But, ASEAN, de jure, is a consensus-based and deliberative institution.

 

[NiceGuy]

Do not teach me ASEAN, since it is one of my specialties and I have been to Jakarta many times, visiting ASEAN HQ there and joining workshops.

This is Asian regionalism, which is the product of the entire region. Also called exclusive and soft regionalism. ASEAN+3 or ARF also work under the same principle. This, however, does not mean that ASEAN lacks a de facto leader. It is just the nature of the social groupings.

But, ASEAN, de jure, is a consensus-based and deliberative institution.

Wow wow, can pple here test your specialties abt ASEAN ?? u know why Indones is not invited in TPP even its a biggest ASEAN nation ??

 

[Viet]

Let's count:

Japan: Korea, Russia and China-Taiwan

China: India, Philippines, Vietnam.

How many neighbors China has? Most in the world?

How many neighbors Japan has?

Do the math.

Just because Korea or Russia do not jump and make noise like you do, it does not mean they d not have territorial disputes with Japan.

And how many territorial disputes Vietnam has?



Do not teach me ASEAN, since it is one of my specialties and I have been to Jakarta many times, visiting ASEAN HQ there and joining workshops.

This is Asian regionalism, which is the product of the entire region. Also called exclusive and soft regionalism. ASEAN+3 or ARF also work under the same principle. This, however, does not mean that ASEAN lacks a de facto leader. It is just the nature of the social groupings.

But, ASEAN, de jure, is a consensus-based and deliberative institution.

I am really curious. What is your job?

 

[pr1v4t33r]

u know why Indones is not invited in TPP even its a biggest ASEAN nation ??

Indonesia not to join Trans-Pacific Partnership

Indonesia's President Joko 'Jokowi' Widodo stated that Indonesia would join neither Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) nor Free Trade Area Asia Pacific (FTAAP) unless they give advantages to Indonesia. The Indonesia seventh president emphasized that Indonesia should become a player, not only a big market.

Indonesia not to join Trans-Pacific Partnership - Najis TPPA

 

[TaiShang]

u know why Indones is not invited in TPP even its a biggest ASEAN nation ??

Because Indonesia is a nation that treasures its sovereignty.

 

[NiceGuy]

Indonesia not to join Trans-Pacific Partnership

Indonesia not to join Trans-Pacific Partnership - Najis TPPA

As I said: TPP only benefit to US-VN, other TPP nation r just victim. But why other TPP invited nations must join ?? Bcz TPP is just like Noah Ark for an incoming Great floor (economic war-currency war ), who on board will survive, who r not will collapse.

As I know, Indones economy is getting worse, right ??

Because Indonesia is a nation that treasures its sovereignty.

Failed answer

 

[pr1v4t33r]

As I said: TPP only benefit to US-VN, other TPP nation r just victim. But why other TPP invited nations must join ?? Bcz TPP is just like Noah Ark for an incoming Great floor (economic war-currency war ), who on board will survive, who r not will collapse.

Your reasoning and justification to join TPP is not in our interest and have no weight nor value for Indonesian government. We will deal with our economic situation, our way, and for the best interest of Indonesian people.

 

[NiceGuy]

Your reasoning and justification to join TPP is not in our interest and have no weight nor value for Indonesian government. We will deal with our economic situation, our way, and for the best interest of Indonesian people.

Nope, u r incapable to solve ur economic situation in ur own way. Ur Govt. just requested to join TPP after bad economic report. Ur Govt. can feel the Great Floor is coming closer and they want to survive

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Indonesia open to Pacific trade pact after Obama Congress victory
JAKARTA | BY GAYATRI SUROYO AND JOHN CHALMERS
Fri Aug 7, 2015


Indonesia is now open to joining the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade agreement following U.S. President Barack Obama's victory in a congressional battle over the pact, the country's chief economic minister said on Friday.

The TPP would cut trade barriers and harmonize standards across 12 Pacific rim economies, including Australia and Japan, that have a combined gross domestic product of $28 trillion.

The government of Southeast Asia's largest economy was initially opposed to joining the TPP but has had a change of heart since legislation vital to securing the deal was passed by the U.S. Senate in June, Coordinating Minister for Economics Sofyan Djalil said.

"Many policymakers in Asia didn't believe that President Obama will get the mandate," Djalil told Reuters in an interview late on Friday. "TPP is now getting closer and closer to reality, and now the option is to join it or you're left out."

"Of course we have to look at it, we have to study it comprehensively ... But in principal, we don't have any problem."

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry expressed confidence on Friday that the pact could be completed this year even though countries involved failed to overcome feuds over auto trade, dairy goods and next-generation drugs in their latest negotiations.

Indonesia, whose exports have contracted every month since last October due to a drop in commodities, is now studying the potential impact of TPP on its foreign trade, Djalil said.

The country will also start another round of talks on a free trade agreement with the European Union next month, he added.

Indonesia's exports plunged 12.8 percent in June, while imports tumbled 17.42 percent. The economy grew by 4.67 percent in the second quarter, its slowest pace since 2009.

Indonesia open to Pacific trade pact after Obama Congress victory| Reuters

 

[pr1v4t33r]

Nope, u r incapable to solve ur economic situation in ur own way. Ur Govt. just requested to join TPP after bad economic report. Ur Govt. can feel the Great Floor is coming closer and they want to survive

Suit yourself with that idea, we don't bother.

Indonesia is now open to joining the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade agreement following U.S. President Barack Obama's victory in a congressional battle over the pact, the country's chief economic minister said on Friday.

The government of Southeast Asia's largest economy was initially opposed to joining the TPP but has had a change of heart since legislation vital to securing the deal was passed by the U.S. Senate in June, Coordinating Minister for Economics Sofyan Djalil said.

Yet, he is no longer the Coordinating Minister for Economics today, he has just been replaced.

 

[NiceGuy]

Suit yourself with that idea, we don't bother.




Yet, he is no longer the Coordinating Minister for Economics today, he has just been replaced.

I dont come here to lie, I just come here and simply post my prediction (till now I still dont make any wrong prediction ), its up to u to believe or not, time will tell. I just want to know if TaiShang truly understand ASEAN as he said ot not

 

[pr1v4t33r]

I dont come here to lie, I just come here and simply post my prediction (till now I still dont make any wrong prediction ), its up to u to believe or not, time will tell.

Indeed, time will tell. I won't put my trust on someone's random predictions. It is my decision not to agree, moreover to believe.

 

[NiceGuy]

Indeed, time will tell. I won't put my trust on someone's random predictions. It is my decision not to agree, moreover to believe.

Okay, it (economic war or currency war maybe even hot war) will happen soon in abt 5 years, just a short time, so we dont have to wait long.

And VN already fully prepared for that situation