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Rethink impractical projects, Jaishankar tells Bangladesh FM​

Suhasini Haidar
NEW DELHIFEBRUARY 20, 2022 18:04 IST
UPDATED: FEBRUARY 21, 2022 00:34 IST

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Foreign Minister S. Jaishankar speaks during the annual Munich Security Conference, in Munich, Germany February 19, 2022. | Photo Credit: Reuters

Abdul Momen had asked whether Quad can offer same kind of financial aid as China​


Countries seeking loans should worry about unsustainable infrastructure projects like airports and ports that are empty, said External Affairs Minister S. Jaishankar, in a sharp riposte to Bangladesh Foreign Minister AK Abdul Momen, who asked about whether the Quad countries can offer the same kind of financial assistance that China does.

In an exchange at the Munich Security Conference on Saturday, Mr. Jaishankar also said India’s ties with China are right now going through a “difficult phase” adding that the state of the relationship stems from “the state of the border”, and China’s transgressions along the Line of Actual Control since April 2020.

“We have seen now countries including in our region being saddled with large debts. We have seen projects which are commercially unsustainable: airports where an aircraft doesn’t come, harbours where a ship doesn’t come,” Mr. Jaishankar told a panel about the future of the Indo-Pacific, in comments that appeared to indicate the debt situation in Sri Lanka, where there have been concerns over the Hambantota port and the Mattala airport, both originally developed with Chinese loans, which Sri Lanka struggled to pay back, eventually having to hand over the port on a 99-year old lease to a Chinese company.

“It’s obviously in the interest of the consumer country concerned, but it’s also in the interest of the international community because unsustainable projects don’t end there. Often the next is, debt becomes equity, and that becomes something else,” he said, in a further illustration of the problem Sri Lanka faced.

Significantly, the question of infrastructure financing was raised by the Foreign Minister of Bangladesh, who was in the audience of the panel discussion where Mr. Jaishankar shared the stage with the Foreign Ministers of France, Australia and Japan, as well as senior U.S. Senator Jeanne Shaheen.

Mr. Momen said while India had offered Lines of Credit and Japan had also helped with infrastructure financing, incoming loans had been “declining”, and it was China that had “come forward with a basket of money and aggressive, affordable proposals”.

Mr. Momen said it was hard to decide what to do, given that with the development in Bangladesh, people are demanding more infrastructure.

“We need more funding from our development partners, and that unfortunately comes with lot of strings attached and that becomes very difficult. Today, our largest loans are from the World Bank and the IMF and the ADB, but also, we are trying to get some funding from others because the need for development process is very high. Is there an easy way out?” Mr. Momen asked the panel.

While the Quad grouping has made providing sustainable, alternative financing a goal, it has not yet created a concrete mechanism to do so. The U.S. has floated the “Blue Dot network” proposal to grade various development projects on sustainability and transparency in financing options, and India and Japan have committed to work jointly on projects in South Asia.

Asked about India’s relations with China, Mr. Jaishankar repeated his contention that the situation at the LAC had come up due to China’s actions in 2020.

“The state of the border will determine the state of the relationship, that’s natural,” he said adding that as a result, “obviously relations with China right now are going through a very difficult phase”.

Asked whether the Quad had come up as a result of the tensions with China, Mr. Jaishankar pointed out that the Quadrilateral grouping from 2007 had been revived in 2017, long before tensions with China broke out in 2020, nor is it a security structure like the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation.

“I would urge you not to slip into that lazy analogy of [calling the Quad] an Asian-NATO. It isn’t because there are three countries [U.S., Japan and Australia] who are treaty allies. We are not a treaty ally,” Mr. Jaishankar said.

 
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Countries seeking loans should worry about unsustainable infrastructure projects like airports and ports that are empty, said External Affairs Minister S. Jaishankar, in a sharp riposte to Bangladesh Foreign Minister AK Abdul Momen, who asked about whether the Quad countries can offer the same kind of financial assistance that China does.
I am in full agreement with the statement above made by Indian FM S. Jaishanker. The GoB is getting loans from many financial institutions and China and Japan to build many infrastructures many of which are unsustainable in the short, medium, and long terms.

An infrastructure, even if tolls are collected, may not pay back the investment money even in 50 or 100 years. I can cite Padma Bridge and Rooppur atomic power plants that will be unsustainable.

These two are very expensive and are not sustainable. Instead, ferries should have been used to transport people and vehicles, and normal coal-fired or diesel power plants should have been built instead of the very expensive two atomic power plants in Rooppur.

BD will suffer in the long run to repay the money.

Even though the govt claims the Padma bridge is being built with local money, it is a meaningless assertion. When the govt builds this unnecessary project with big money, it has to borrow more money for other projects.

Dhaka Metropolitan railway project is certainly a sustainable project. The passengers will buy tickets with money. Therefore, the investment money will be recovered. Moreover, Metrorail is needed. But the Padma Bridge money will not be recovered because very few transports will use it.
 
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I am in full agreement with the statement above made by Indian FM S. Jaishanker. The GoB is getting loans from many financial institutes and China and Japan to build many infrastructures many of which are unsustainable in the short, medium, and long terms.

An infrastructure, even if tolls are collected, may not pay back the investment money even in 50 or 100 years. I can cite Padma Bridge and Rooppur atomic power plants that will be unsustainable.

These two are very expensive and are not sustainable. Instead, ferries should have been used to transport people and vehicles, and normal coal-fired or diesel power plants should have been built instead of the very expensive two atomic power plants in Rooppur.

BD will suffer in the long run to repay the money.

Even though the govt claims the Padma bridge is being built with local money, it is a meaningless assertion. When the govt builds this unnecessary project with big money, it has to borrow more money for other projects.

Dhaka Metropolitan railway project is certainly a sustainable project. The passengers will buy tickets with money. Therefore, the investment money will be recovered. Moreover, Metrorail is needed. But the Padma Bridge money will not be recovered because very few transports will use it.
Lmao, when bangladesh builds infrastructure your pissed, when bangladesh does not build infrastructure your pissed.

Are you a flag flagger indian?
 
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Lmao, when bangladesh builds infrastructure your pissed, when bangladesh does not build infrastructure your pissed.

Are you a flag flagger indian?
Hi stupid, why do you always make personal attacks? Is it because your upper chamber is empty like a cow or goat?

If not empty, you should answer what I wrote with logic, idiot!!! Just why the Hell should an ignorant guy like you should waste time in a discussion forum?

Are you a Rohingya?
 
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I agree, we should start with indian proposal all of which are to indias benefit. This is natural offcourse... we should get rid of them and allign with those countries we have an interest with.

Its hilarious that india keeps going on about chinese debt trap.... its too poor and stupid to compete and want others to forego development because it can not move away from being a shithole.
 
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... Countries seeking loans should worry about unsustainable infrastructure projects like airports and ports that are empty, said External Affairs Minister S. Jaishankar, in a sharp riposte to Bangladesh Foreign Minister AK Abdul Momen, who asked about whether the Quad countries can offer the same kind of financial assistance that China does. ...
India is basically saying that Asian countries should stop developing, sit there and twiddle their thumbs because debt is bad.

However, India's own $593 billion external debt which also includes $23 billion of IMF debt, is all good.

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The GoB is getting loans from many financial institutes and China and Japan to build many infrastructures many of which are unsustainable in the short, medium, and long terms.
Name some of our White Elephant projects bhai. Padma Bridge and Ruppur NPP aren't White Elephant projects. They cost more because of ruling partys shameless corruption.
An infrastructure, even if tolls are collected, may not pay back the investment money even in 50 or 100 years.
Then everyone linked to that projects feasibility study should be publicly executed...
I can cite Padma Bridge and Rooppur atomic power plants that will be unsustainable.
They will not bhai. They will not...
These two are very expensive and are not sustainable. Instead, ferries should have been used to transport people and vehicles, and normal coal-fired or diesel power plants should have been built instead of the very expensive two atomic power plants in Rooppur.
The workarounds you have suggested are very inefficient in every possible way.
BD will suffer in the long run to repay the money.
I agree with that. Bangladesh will suffer because in every infra projects there are massive corruption because of our ruling party.
But the Padma Bridge money will not be recovered because very few transports will use it.
We will see within couple of years bhai. Lets wait and watch...
 
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Rethink impractical projects, Jaishankar tells Bangladesh FM​

Suhasini Haidar
NEW DELHIFEBRUARY 20, 2022 18:04 IST
UPDATED: FEBRUARY 21, 2022 00:34 IST

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Foreign Minister S. Jaishankar speaks during the annual Munich Security Conference, in Munich, Germany February 19, 2022. | Photo Credit: Reuters

Abdul Momen had asked whether Quad can offer same kind of financial aid as China​


Countries seeking loans should worry about unsustainable infrastructure projects like airports and ports that are empty, said External Affairs Minister S. Jaishankar, in a sharp riposte to Bangladesh Foreign Minister AK Abdul Momen, who asked about whether the Quad countries can offer the same kind of financial assistance that China does.

In an exchange at the Munich Security Conference on Saturday, Mr. Jaishankar also said India’s ties with China are right now going through a “difficult phase” adding that the state of the relationship stems from “the state of the border”, and China’s transgressions along the Line of Actual Control since April 2020.

“We have seen now countries including in our region being saddled with large debts. We have seen projects which are commercially unsustainable: airports where an aircraft doesn’t come, harbours where a ship doesn’t come,” Mr. Jaishankar told a panel about the future of the Indo-Pacific, in comments that appeared to indicate the debt situation in Sri Lanka, where there have been concerns over the Hambantota port and the Mattala airport, both originally developed with Chinese loans, which Sri Lanka struggled to pay back, eventually having to hand over the port on a 99-year old lease to a Chinese company.

“It’s obviously in the interest of the consumer country concerned, but it’s also in the interest of the international community because unsustainable projects don’t end there. Often the next is, debt becomes equity, and that becomes something else,” he said, in a further illustration of the problem Sri Lanka faced.

Significantly, the question of infrastructure financing was raised by the Foreign Minister of Bangladesh, who was in the audience of the panel discussion where Mr. Jaishankar shared the stage with the Foreign Ministers of France, Australia and Japan, as well as senior U.S. Senator Jeanne Shaheen.

Mr. Momen said while India had offered Lines of Credit and Japan had also helped with infrastructure financing, incoming loans had been “declining”, and it was China that had “come forward with a basket of money and aggressive, affordable proposals”.

Mr. Momen said it was hard to decide what to do, given that with the development in Bangladesh, people are demanding more infrastructure.

“We need more funding from our development partners, and that unfortunately comes with lot of strings attached and that becomes very difficult. Today, our largest loans are from the World Bank and the IMF and the ADB, but also, we are trying to get some funding from others because the need for development process is very high. Is there an easy way out?” Mr. Momen asked the panel.

While the Quad grouping has made providing sustainable, alternative financing a goal, it has not yet created a concrete mechanism to do so. The U.S. has floated the “Blue Dot network” proposal to grade various development projects on sustainability and transparency in financing options, and India and Japan have committed to work jointly on projects in South Asia.

Asked about India’s relations with China, Mr. Jaishankar repeated his contention that the situation at the LAC had come up due to China’s actions in 2020.

“The state of the border will determine the state of the relationship, that’s natural,” he said adding that as a result, “obviously relations with China right now are going through a very difficult phase”.

Asked whether the Quad had come up as a result of the tensions with China, Mr. Jaishankar pointed out that the Quadrilateral grouping from 2007 had been revived in 2017, long before tensions with China broke out in 2020, nor is it a security structure like the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation.

“I would urge you not to slip into that lazy analogy of [calling the Quad] an Asian-NATO. It isn’t because there are three countries [U.S., Japan and Australia] who are treaty allies. We are not a treaty ally,” Mr. Jaishankar said.

Either match what china provides, else STFU. India wants Bangladesh to stop infrastructure projects with China because it has a "problem with China", Mr, Jaishankar knows where he can stick that advice.
 
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It was asked knowing India under Modi is an insolvent failed entity. We don't expect money from countries like India under Modi - Modi has enough problems of his own to solve.

The reason Jail-shankar got a little hot under the collar is that he got the insult. :lol:

And who the flake is he - to decide whether we actually need the projects we plan - he should limit his comments to things he knows about.

Ports, airports, roads and bridges are a necessity in Bangladesh. How will our exports get to the ports and get loaded on ships otherwise?

India's own AAI designed airports have been future-proofed for another thirty years, should we question those?

One example In India, is Cochin in Kerala (a regional 3rd Tier airport) - which has the same facilities (single 11,000 foot runway and about the same number of boarding bridges) as Dhaka airport does. Dhaka handled twice the number of passengers last year as Kochi did (about six million plus). Now you tell me if Indians should question our new projects which we direly need?


 
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