Republic of China Faces Tough Choices After US Cancels F-16 Upgrade

[Genesis]

The bold part is about manipulating the market. While tariff and custom concession can be discussed in governmental level, that alone does not remain as the sole issue on whether or not the businessmen in both UK and China would invest in each other

As a polly, they are require to balance out the situation at the best they can, but not favor on any one side, otherwise by favoring one side they would need balance out on some other part of the world.

On the other hand, businessman goes where the money goes, you could have a lot of deal sign with one single country and yet they could discover that other country could have earn more. That's why commercial sector are the major ball player of any7 government of the world. They contribute to the current government and in return, they try to sway the policy to their own liking.

Problem is, David Cameron never have any real power to manipulate the market in his liking as his government do not even have the sole majority of the government, his rise to power is struggle through deal made between party. Again, at best he could do is go to China and sign deal and hope the Chinese Businessmen invest in the UK and vice versa, however, if the pie is better elsewhere other than China, it's not the businessmen are going to change, but it's the policy that's going to change.

It is and always is, government were being manipulated by corporation, not the other way around.

That's a view held by some teenagers who wear masks to demonstrate things they don't understand.

David Cameron, just his assurance of good relations is enough for Chinese businesses to invest. He is a man of power and his presence as is Xi's presence makes any event more formal and only they can gather the best in their country and meet in one place.

Politicians need money yes, but money needs power also. One holds the money, but the other one holds the gun. Don't be fooled by some teenagers into thinking powerful people will be controlled, just think about your own experience, even the stupid pedestrian don't want to be controlled, much less the ones that has actual power.

Also remember, there may be multiple parties, there's also even more companies, Both are headed by capable men and women that will not bend.

To think a man like Xi, or Cameron will be made a puppet is not an educated view. Just like blaming the banks for the current economic down turn. A useless uneducated American should be just as poor as rest of the world, but they are not, not because they are more useful, but because of the politicians and banks, now that the East has those same people, and their fortunes isn't easy anymore, they look for a scape goat, when in fact it was them that gave them the prosperity in the first place.


On to manipulation of the market, it;s not, Chinese leaders can't and won't do that for foreign businesses. It's just a few minor details, and some sales pitch. The same pitch sounds better when delivered by a hot babe or a powerful man. Like you said, Cameron can make deals, that's what makes him the perfect man for the job, of making more deals. Maybe Chinese business would lose or break even in UK for some political favor for China, in exchange, Chinese government will do something for the businessmen back home.

Doesn't have to be direct. UK is a good market either way, when there's an invitation, you take it and laugh like a little girl.

 

[Mighty Caty]

That's a view held by some teenagers who wear masks to demonstrate things they don't understand.

David Cameron, just his assurance of good relations is enough for Chinese businesses to invest. He is a man of power and his presence as is Xi's presence makes any event more formal and only they can gather the best in their country and meet in one place.

Politicians need money yes, but money needs power also. One holds the money, but the other one holds the gun. Don't be fooled by some teenagers into thinking powerful people will be controlled, just think about your own experience, even the stupid pedestrian don't want to be controlled, much less the ones that has actual power.

Also remember, there may be multiple parties, there's also even more companies, Both are headed by capable men and women that will not bend.

To think a man like Xi, or Cameron will be made a puppet is not an educated view. Just like blaming the banks for the current economic down turn. A useless uneducated American should be just as poor as rest of the world, but they are not, not because they are more useful, but because of the politicians and banks, now that the East has those same people, and their fortunes isn't easy anymore, they look for a scape goat, when in fact it was them that gave them the prosperity in the first place.


On to manipulation of the market, it;s not, Chinese leaders can't and won't do that for foreign businesses. It's just a few minor details, and some sales pitch. The same pitch sounds better when delivered by a hot babe or a powerful man. Like you said, Cameron can make deals, that's what makes him the perfect man for the job, of making more deals. Maybe Chinese business would lose or break even in UK for some political favor for China, in exchange, Chinese government will do something for the businessmen back home.

Doesn't have to be direct. UK is a good market either way, when there's an invitation, you take it and laugh like a little girl.

I don't really know if that is the case in China, but you must be dreaming to say politician control corporation........At least you are dreaming if you live in this part of the world.

An useless uneducated American is as poor as anyone in this world, however, the term "poor" is relative but not quantitative. I mean, how do you measure poor? If a certain man earn less than a certain amount of money and then they are poor? They could have inherit a large amount of money so that they may never work.

Or if you say a man without qualification should be poor? But time and again it has been proven wrong regardless of where you are. There are way too many millionaires and billionaires have their money without a proper education or even an education at all. So by your logic, any uneducated men and women should be poor??

Then how do you define useless exactly?? A poor man come to their situation is by their own doing. You can look at the scale and say it's not the bank fault that they foreclosure a man house because they cannot pay for it. But you can also look at as to why a bank would lend money to a person who may not be able to afford to and give them a loan.

And you want to know how the bank can write cheque after cheque to people who do not deserve it? I can use this exact reason to argue if the government have anyway to manipulate the corporation, these sort of thing will never happen in the first place.

In short, you are dreaming to say any politician can control the big biz.

 

[GR!FF!N]

the thing is......

ROC couldn't obtain certain upgrades for their F-16.but that doesn't stop them to procure 5th gen F-35s.on other hand,USA is offering F-16 to Egypt.that increases further confusion.probably,Taiwan will get the upgrade,but it'll be off the record sale,like many others.

seriously,I think its time for Taiwan to rely on other International players as well.France is a good choice.same goes for Russia.there was some reports suggested that Taiwan was building a 5 th gen Aircraft using help from Russia.also,they should upgrade(which is already underway) and produce more F-ck 1.their modified version is quite impressive.

I'd suggest Su-35 or Rafale for now as stop gap while they can easily make their new jets or buy F-35.but any attempt of this surely going to be marred by political moves.

 

[terranMarine]

the thing is......

ROC couldn't obtain certain upgrades for their F-16.but that doesn't stop them to procure 5th gen F-35s.on other hand,USA is offering F-16 to Egypt.that increases further confusion.probably,Taiwan will get the upgrade,but it'll be off the record sale,like many others.

seriously,I think its time for Taiwan to rely on other International players as well.France is a good choice.same goes for Russia.there was some reports suggested that Taiwan was building a 5 th gen Aircraft using help from Russia.also,they should upgrade(which is already underway) and produce more F-ck 1.their modified version is quite impressive.

I'd suggest Su-35 or Rafale for now as stop gap while they can easily make their new jets or buy F-35.but any attempt of this surely going to be marred by political moves.

What makes you think the US is willing to sell F-35 to Taiwan?

 

[GR!FF!N]

What makes you think the US is willing to sell F-35 to Taiwan?

there was no info available what USA is thinking.but Taiwan reportedly showed their interests in this jet.but see,despite various times Taiwan showed their interest,USA never officially denied them the jet.but I think Taiwan is better off with other 5th gen jets,actually,it'll be best if they materialize their own plan of 5th gen jet.