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Report: Israel aims to transfer laser tech to Saudis​

i24NEWS
June 29, 2022 at 09:37 AMlatest revision June 29, 2022 at 12:44 PM2 min read
Israel's Prime Minister Naftali Bennett (L), gets an update on Rafael's under-development Magen Or laser defense system, Haifa, June 1, 2022.
Amos Ben Gershom / GPOIsrael's Prime Minister Naftali Bennett (L), gets an update on Rafael's under-development Magen Or laser defense system, Haifa, June 1, 2022.


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Israel wants to sell its laser defense technology to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, according to Israeli reports.
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The government will seek permission to transfer the technology to the Gulf Arab states from US President Joe Biden during his visit next month.
The US leader is expected to visit Israel, the West Bank and Saudi Arabia in mid-July.
Israel's Defense Ministry will present its laser interception system to Biden during his visit to Israel, according to ministry sources and the Israeli military.
The presentation of the system will be at Palmachim Airbase, alongside Israel's Iron Dome protection system.
The Biden administration has indicated its interest in expanding upon the normalization agreements reached between Israel and Arab countries under the previous US administration and the potential Iron Beam deal is seen as a step in that direction.
The Americans, Israelis and several Sunni Arab states are also seeking ways to counter Iranian influence in the region, including attacks by Iranian proxies.
"This sends a message to Tehran that the [Israeli-Arab] alliance is serious and growing; that the Iranians are going to have to think twice or maybe three times before they make their next move," i24NEWS senior US correspondent Mike Wagenheim said.
The laser defense technology was designed and manufactured by Israeli defense contractor Rafael Advanced Defense Systems and was unveiled at the Singapore Airshow on February 11, 2014.
According to estimates, the new system is expected to come into use within a few years
 
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If you would believe fake Israeli news, Israel would have sold its entire "country" to Saudi Arabia ages ago. I have never seen a media like the Israeli one that is this obsessed about making up news about Saudi Arabia and its supposed deals with Israel. It is absolutely "amazing".

The first actual combat of the laser cannon, the Silent Hunter successfully shot down the drone, Saudi Arabia: This time I bought it right again​

2022-07-03 00:58 HKT

n everyone's imagination, the war in the 21st century should be fought with laser weapons, and now, it has finally become a reality. On March 6, at the first Arab World Defense Exhibition opened in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia proudly announced that the "Silent Hunter" laser air defense system purchased from China has achieved the first shot down under actual combat conditions.

The first actual combat of the laser cannon, the Silent Hunter successfully shot down the drone, Saudi Arabia: This time I bought it right again



The first actual combat of the laser cannon, the Silent Hunter successfully shot down the drone, Saudi Arabia: This time I bought it right again


At present, the Saudi side has not disclosed the specific situation of the actual combat. Did it shoot down the drone or the missile? There is no way to know, but the outside world speculates that it is a drone. As for this "Silent Hunter" laser air defense system, everyone should be familiar with it. Whether it is the Zhuhai Air Show or the Abu Dhabi Defense Exhibition, it has been publicly unveiled many times. The standard output power of "Silent Hunter" is 30 kilowatts and the maximum range is 4000 meters. It is said that at a distance of 800 meters, it can burn through 5 layers of 2 mm thick steel plates, and at a distance of 1000 meters, it can burn through 5 mm thick steel plates. very big.

The first actual combat of the laser cannon, the Silent Hunter successfully shot down the drone, Saudi Arabia: This time I bought it right again


The first actual combat of the laser cannon, the Silent Hunter successfully shot down the drone, Saudi Arabia: This time I bought it right again


To be honest, everyone thought it was the United States that used laser weapons in actual combat for the first time, but it was China who won the first prize. However, the world's first deployment of laser weapons in actual combat is the USS DDG105 "Dewey" destroyer.

The first actual combat of the laser cannon, the Silent Hunter successfully shot down the drone, Saudi Arabia: This time I bought it right again


The first actual combat of the laser cannon, the Silent Hunter successfully shot down the drone, Saudi Arabia: This time I bought it right again


According to the data, the power of "Odin" is about 60 kilowatts. It has been publicly installed on the B gun position of "Dewey" for testing as early as November 2019, but its main function is still dazzling interception. And our "Silent Hunter" has an output power of only 30 kilowatts, but it can shoot down drones and burn through 5 to 10 mm of steel plate, which means that if time is enough, it can intercept cruise missiles and even " It seems that the output power is not the only indicator that determines the burn-through effect of laser weapons for guided munitions such as the Javelin.

The first actual combat of the laser cannon, the Silent Hunter successfully shot down the drone, Saudi Arabia: This time I bought it right again


The first actual combat of the laser cannon, the Silent Hunter successfully shot down the drone, Saudi Arabia: This time I bought it right again


The U.S. Navy can achieve a similar interception effect as the "Silent Hunter" is the LWSD MK 2 MOD 0 solid-state laser weapon system, which was installed on the LPD-15 "Ponce" as early as 2012. , when it had only 30 kW of power. On May 16, 2020, the LPD-27 "Poland" dock landing ship used its LWSD MK 2 MOD 0 solid-state laser weapon system to successfully shoot down a drone with an output power of about 60 kilowatts at that time; On December 14, 2021, the "Portland" once again used it to destroy a small boat within sight range, and it is said that the theoretical maximum output power has reached 150 kilowatts.

The first actual combat of the laser cannon, the Silent Hunter successfully shot down the drone, Saudi Arabia: This time I bought it right again


The first actual combat of the laser cannon, the Silent Hunter successfully shot down the drone, Saudi Arabia: This time I bought it right again


In addition to this, the U.S. Navy has a 30-kilowatt LaWS (AN/SEQ-3) and a more powerful "high-energy laser against anti-ship cruise missiles" HELCAP program, which is mainly used to track and destroy cruise missiles, but a too Weak, the other is not going well. Only Lockheed Martin's HELIOS "High Energy Laser and Integrated Optical Dazzling Surveillance" system, worth a look, has an output of around 60 kilowatts.

The first actual combat of the laser cannon, the Silent Hunter successfully shot down the drone, Saudi Arabia: This time I bought it right again


Seeing this, some people may ask, the output power of "Silent Hunter" is only 30 kilowatts, while the United States generally has 60 kilowatts, or even 150 kilowatts. Are we falling behind? In fact, the 30 kW of "Silent Hunter" is just a standard output power, which can continuously burn through 5 layers of 2 mm thick steel plates at a distance of 800 meters, or a laser interceptor that burns through 5 mm thick steel plates at a distance of 1000 meters. Guess what its max power is?

The first actual combat of the laser cannon, the Silent Hunter successfully shot down the drone, Saudi Arabia: This time I bought it right again


In the field of laser weapons, not to say that we are ahead of the United States, at least it is on the same level. For example, the world's most powerful carbon dioxide laser is ours, but we will not shout like the United States. In addition, the name "Silent Hunter" is also quite good, and China's domestic weapons are more and more named. Of course, you can also translate it as "silent hunter".

The first actual combat of the laser cannon, the Silent Hunter successfully shot down the drone, Saudi Arabia: This time I bought it right again


The first actual combat of the laser cannon, the Silent Hunter successfully shot down the drone, Saudi Arabia: This time I bought it right again


https://inf.news/en/military/3948b7356b54d78465e876073f9c9cfd.html

Not long ago, the domestic "Silent Hunter" launched the first actual combat of a laser interceptor in Saudi Arabia and achieved the news of shooting down a drone. It is estimated that many people already know that the sci-fi era in the movie has really come into reality. What is even more surprising is that, according to the Russian Satellite News Agency, it shot down not one drone, but 13.

The actual combat performance of laser weapons has been refreshed again. Silent Hunter shot down 13 drones, not 1


At present, it is not known whether the "Silent Hunter" shot down 13 UAVs at one time, or shot down multiple times. If multiple UAVs are shot down in a single interception, it indicates the most critical problem that restricted the laser interceptor before. has been resolved. Previously, the biggest bottleneck of the laser interceptor, in addition to power, was to shoot multiple times in a short period of time, because the energy and heat dissipation issues involved, as well as the sensitivity and accuracy of the tracking equipment, were difficult to handle. And only when the problem of multiple shots in a short time is solved, the laser has real combat value.

And more from inf.news article.

The first actual combat of the laser cannon, the Silent Hunter successfully shot down the drone, Saudi Arabia: This time I bought it right again​

2022-05-12 22:48 HKT

In everyone's imagination, the war in the 21st century should be fought with laser weapons, and now, it has finally become a reality. On March 6, at the first Arab World Defense Exhibition opened in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia proudly announced that the "Silent Hunter" laser air defense system purchased from China has achieved the first shot down under actual combat conditions.
The first actual combat of the laser cannon, the Silent Hunter successfully shot down the drone, Saudi Arabia: This time I bought it right again


The first actual combat of the laser cannon, the Silent Hunter successfully shot down the drone, Saudi Arabia: This time I bought it right again


At present, the Saudi side has not disclosed the specific situation of the actual combat. Did it shoot down the drone or the missile? There is no way to know, but the outside world speculates that it is a drone. As for this "Silent Hunter" laser air defense system, everyone should be familiar with it. Whether it is the Zhuhai Air Show or the Abu Dhabi Defense Exhibition, it has been publicly unveiled many times. The standard output power of "Silent Hunter" is 30 kilowatts and the maximum range is 4000 meters. It is said that at a distance of 800 meters, it can burn through 5 layers of 2 mm thick steel plates, and at a distance of 1000 meters, it can burn through 5 mm thick steel plates. very big.

The first actual combat of the laser cannon, the Silent Hunter successfully shot down the drone, Saudi Arabia: This time I bought it right again


To be honest, everyone thought it was the United States that used laser weapons in actual combat for the first time, but it was China who won the first prize. However, the world's first deployment of laser weapons in actual combat is the USS DDG105 "Dewey" destroyer.



According to the data, the power of "Odin" is about 60 kilowatts. It has been publicly installed on the B gun position of "Dewey" for testing as early as November 2019, but its main function is still dazzling interception. And our "Silent Hunter" has an output power of only 30 kilowatts, but it can shoot down drones and burn through 5 to 10 mm of steel plate, which means that if time is enough, it can intercept cruise missiles and even " It seems that the output power is not the only indicator that determines the burn-through effect of laser weapons for guided munitions such as the Javelin.



The U.S. Navy can achieve a similar interception effect as the "Silent Hunter" is the LWSD MK 2 MOD 0 solid-state laser weapon system, which was installed on the LPD-15 "Ponce" as early as 2012. , when it had only 30 kW of power. On May 16, 2020, the LPD-27 "Poland" dock landing ship used its LWSD MK 2 MOD 0 solid-state laser weapon system to successfully shoot down a drone with an output power of about 60 kilowatts at that time; On December 14, 2021, the "Portland" once again used it to destroy a small boat within sight range, and it is said that the theoretical maximum output power has reached 150 kilowatts.


In addition to this, the U.S. Navy has a 30-kilowatt LaWS (AN/SEQ-3) and a more powerful "high-energy laser against anti-ship cruise missiles" HELCAP program, which is mainly used to track and destroy cruise missiles, but a too Weak, the other is not going well. Only Lockheed Martin's HELIOS "High Energy Laser and Integrated Optical Dazzling Surveillance" system, worth a look, has an output of around 60 kilowatts.


Seeing this, some people may ask, the output power of "Silent Hunter" is only 30 kilowatts, while the United States generally has 60 kilowatts, or even 150 kilowatts. Are we falling behind? In fact, the 30 kW of "Silent Hunter" is just a standard output power, which can continuously burn through 5 layers of 2 mm thick steel plates at a distance of 800 meters, or a laser interceptor that burns through 5 mm thick steel plates at a distance of 1000 meters. Guess what its max power is?
The first actual combat of the laser cannon, the Silent Hunter successfully shot down the drone, Saudi Arabia: This time I bought it right again

 
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The standard output power of "Silent Hunter" is 30 kilowatts and the maximum range is 4000 meters. It is said that at a distance of 800 meters, it can burn through 5 layers of 2 mm thick steel plates, and at a distance of 1000 meters, it can burn through 5 mm thick steel plates. very big.
4000 meters is well within the range of drone missiles and leaves very little reaction time. Drones could engage it and never be in harms way.

A rocket flying at mach 2 will get through that distance within 7 seconds.
3 rockets would definitely go through.

Basically, the Chinese system is too weak and doesn't have enough reach.
Israeli system is 100+KW solid state laser with 10+km range.

The most important part of lasers is how concentrated and stabilized the beam is.
The more concentrated and stabilized the beam is the faster the target is shot down.
We don't have information on that.
 
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