Remembering Srebrenica Genocide I The life, Dutch celebration, and death.

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

The UN Security Council had declared Srebrenica a "safe area" in the spring of 1993. However, Serb troops led by General Ratko Mladic -- who now faces genocide charges at The Hague -- overran the UN zone despite the presence of around 450 Dutch soldiers tasked with protecting innocent civilians as UN peacekeepers.

The Dutch troops failed to act as Serb forces occupied the area, killing about 2,000 men and boys on July 11 alone. Some 15,000 Srebrenica people fled into the surrounding mountains but Serb troops hunted down and killed 6,000 of them in the forests.

http://aa.com.tr/en/europe/bosnia-prepares-to-mark-srebrenica-genocide/858312


The life:

The Dutch Celebration:

The Death:

 

[Jungibaaz]

When did muslim troops fight for the security of christians?

These were UN troops, the UN failed to protect these civilians, not everything has to be related to your own thoughts on christian and muslim bs.

Now stop polluting this thread with this nonsense.

 

[ValerioAurelius]

These were UN troops, the UN failed to protect these civilians, not everything has to be related to your own thoughts on christian and muslim bs.

Now stop polluting this thread with this nonsense.

The UN protects nothing anyways. Never did and never will be. Its a toothless paper tiger. So this is not nonsense.

What happened there was out of the reach of the netherlands.

 

[Jungibaaz]

The UN protects nothing anyways. Never did and never will be. Its a toothless paper tiger. So this is not nonsense.

What happened there was out of the reach of the netherlands.

I agree, it isn't the fault of the dutch, the UN failed to protect civilians, as it always failed, and as it failed only a year before Srebrenica in Rwanda in 1994. Ultimately, the animals that carry out these atrocities are the only truly guilty ones.

All that aside, I am telling you not to derail this thread with that muslim and christian sectarian stuff, stick to the subject.

 

[ValerioAurelius]

I agree, it isn't the fault of the dutch, the UN failed to protect civilians, as it always failed, and as it failed only a year before Srebrenica in Rwanda in 1994. Ultimately, the animals that carry out these atrocities are the only truly guilty ones.

All that aside, I am telling you not to derail this thread with that muslim and christian sectarian stuff, stick to the subject.

Thats what i say. The UN is absolute useless. As you said yourself Srebrenica was bad but Rwanda was much worse and the UN did nothing. In Syria the UN does nothing. In Iraq UN does nothing.

I believe its just a bla bla club.

 

[Penguin]

Dear Italian Friend,

There are numerous documented instances of troops under UN flag protecting civilians succesfully. The example you give are not situations in which there is a any room for peacekeeping. Please inform yourself about what peacekeeping is and is not before you reach and proclaim a judgement.

You can believe all you want, but that doesn't necessarily make your belief factually correct. Please take care not to insult our hosts at this forum.

Pakistan is the largest single contributor to UN peacekeeping forces globally, with more than 11,000 nationals serving. Bangladesh follows, contributing 9,500 forces, India is third with more than 8,000, and Nigeria is fourth with almost 6,000.

Pakistani troops were about 50km away from Srebrenica at the time, near Tuzla. They couldn't come to the aid of their embattled Dutch collegues, who where outgunned and outnumbered (not to mention sent on a mission ill-prepared and ill-supported by their government).

 

[Mage]

Dutch soldiers aren't the ones to be blamed. 200-400 lightly armed Dutch soldiers wouldn't have stood a chance against thousands Serbian soldiers with tanks and mortars.

 

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

Dutch soldiers aren't the ones to be blamed. 200-400 lightly armed Dutch soldiers wouldn't have stood a chance against thousands Serbian soldiers with tanks and mortars.

Would you please tell me the purpose of military and soldiers?

A little ''hint''...

 

[Penguin]

Would you please tell me the purpose of military and soldiers?

A little ''hint''...

Clearly, our military at least doesn't practise censorship. Obviously, the purpose of military and soldiers is to consume large quantities of beer at the taxpayers expense while doing pretty much nothing. Duh!

Anyway, if your government had sent a small underarmed contingent and UN command didn't let your country's F16 provide air support to its own troops, I would like to hear from you again. I would also like to see you stop a these:

with this:

of course while trying to not get your fellow soldiers that have been taken hostage killed....

We have a saying here in our little seafaring country: The best helmsmen are ashore.

Go figure

 

[Jacob Martin]

I don't understand what the fuss is all about really. The Dutch government resigned over the failure. What more can be expected of them? How many governments in the developing world would do that?

Why is it that Europe and the West in general have to be held accountable to a much higher moral and ethical standard than the rest of the world?

 

[-SINAN-]

Anyway, if your government had sent a small underarmed contingent and UN command didn't let your country's F16 provide air support to its own troops, I would like to hear from you again. I would also like to see you stop a these:

with this:

of course while trying to not get your fellow soldiers that have been taken hostage killed....

This response made me curious about the Dutch history...do you surrender when you face a superior adversary ?

 

[Penguin]

This response made me curious about the Dutch history...do you surrender when you face a superior adversary ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutchbat
You seem to fail to comprehend what UN peacekeepers are expected to do and were equipped to do [at least in those days].

We're, the Dutch, are not Imperial Japanese soldiers that would rather commit suicide in a Banzaii attack. Neither are the Turks. Besides, that would have been irresponsible, given the threats made against a far larger civilian population and captured friendly personnel.

FYI:

In 1994, the Canadian peacekeeping battalion (CANBAT) in Srebrenica was replaced by a battalion of Dutch peacekeepers (DUTCHBAT). With the VRS outnumbered and overextended countrywide in the winter of 1994, Mladić reasoned that it would be necessary to consolidate Bosnian Serb forces by eliminating one or more of the UN "safe areas" and the ARBiH garrisons located within them. Although attacking them would violate UN resolutions, Mladić believed that international forces would not confront the VRS as long as UNPROFOR units were vulnerable to suffering heavy casualties and hostage takings. A subsequent hostage crisis in which UN personnel were seized and used as human shields to prevent NATO airstrikes destroyed the credibility of UN deterrence in Bihać and Sarajevo. Mladić then turned his attention to Srebrenica, Goražde and Žepa, whose seizure would release considerable VRS forces for redeployment against an expected Croatian Army–ARBiH offensive in western Bosnia, while strengthening the Bosnian Serb claim to the entire Drina valley in case of a future peace settlement. Due their location, Srebrenica and Žepa were the most vulnerable of the UN "safe areas" in Bosnia, in stark contrast to Goražde, where UN forces had resisted the VRS before being enforced by the ARBiH
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Srebrenica

DUTCHBAT was a Dutch army battalion, Its mission consisted of deploying four successive rotations, each of around 450 persons, named "Dutchbat I, -II, -III and -IV". The Dutch troops were armed with personal weapons, machine guns and two anti-tank RPGs, in accordance with the UN mandate of UNPROFOR. The headquarters were installed in an old battery factory in Potočari, 5 km from Srebrenica. DUTCHBAT used 30 observation posts (OPs) throughout the perimeter of the enclave, mostly consisting of a sandbagged armored car and associated personnel and equipment.
UNPROFOR's mission was the protection of the civilian population of this Bosniak enclave (dubbed a "secure area" or "safe haven" by the UN). The Rules of Engagement (ROE) stated that the peacekeepers could use force for self-defence only. They relied on air support from NATO. Intervening in the fighting was forbidden to all NATO troops, however Minister Voorhoeve of the Netherlands had ordered that “under no circumstances was Dutchbat allowed to cooperate in the separate treatment of men.” DUTCHBAT's zone fell under siege by the VRS, when NATO air forces began bombing the Bosnian Serbs besieging Sarajevo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutchbat

May 1995 The spectacle of 350 Dutch Peacekeepers, held hostage by the Serbs around Sarajevo in response to NATO air strikes, stuns the UN.
May 22, 1995 General Bertrand Janvier, the United Nations Commander in Bosnia, confronts the UN in New York, urging the Security Council either to protect the Safe Area with massive troop increases or to withdraw the vulnerable peacekeepers in order to allow decisive air strikes. He is told to carry on as usual.
July 9, 1995 Shelling is constant as refugees flee from the advancing Serbs in the south. The Muslim defenders abandon their final position., while the Serbs advance to half mile from town. The road to Srebrenica is now open. Thirty Dutch peacekeepers are taken hostage by the Serbs
July 10, 1995 Colonel Karremans files his third request for air support with the United Nations. The Serbs shell Dutch positions. UN Commander General Janvier rejects the request for Air Support. Serbs are on the hillside over the town center. Karremans again makes a request for Air Support. General Janvier finally agrees to Air Support. The Serb attacks stop. Colonel Janvier postpones the air strikes until morning. Karremans tells the town leaders that 50 NATO planes will bomb Serbs at 6 a.m. the next morning.
July 11, 1995
9:00 a.m. Colonel Karremans is told that his request for close air support was submitted on the wrong form. He must re-submit the request.

10:30 a.m. The air support request reaches General Janvier. Airborne since 6 a.m., the NATO planes are out of fuel and must return to base in Italy.

11:00 a.m. General Janvier is unsure of Serb intentions and again hesitates over approving air support. More than 20,000 refugees - women, children, sick and elderly - flee for the main Dutch base at Potocari, three miles away.

12:05 p.m. General Janvier authorizes air support, four hours after the request is submitted.

2:40 p.m. Two Dutch F-16 Fighters drop two bombs on Serb positions. The Serbs threaten to kill Dutch hostages and shell refugees. Further strikes are abandoned.

4:15 p.m. General Ratko Mladic enters Srebrenica to claim the town for the Bosnian Serbs. He is accompanied by Serb camera crews. 5,000 refugees shelter inside the Dutch base. More than 20,000 people seek refuge in nearby factories and fields.

4:45 p.m. Serb soldiers arrive at Potocari.

8:30 p.m. Mladic summons Colonel Karremans to a meeting. Colonel Karremans asks for food and medicine. General Mladic delivers an ultimatum: the Muslims must hand over their weapons to guarantee their lives.

Midnight The remaining weapons are carried away by Muslim defenders, who lead 15,000 men on a perilous 40 mile journey through mountains and minefields toward Muslim territory. Mladic and General Krstic meet a delegation of Srebrenicans. Mladic again demands that weapons must be surrendered. He says: "Allah can't help you but Mladic can."
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/cryfromthegrave/massacre/time_line.html
https://www.srebrenica.org.uk/what-happened/srebrenica-genocide/happened-srebrenica/
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-srebrenica-massacre-timeline-20150711-story.html

NATO air attacks were cancelled after VRS threats to bomb the UN's Potočari compound, to kill Dutch and French military hostages and to attack surrounding locations where 20,000 to 30,000 civilian refugees were situated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre

On (the lack of UN) air support: http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archiv...l-dutch-troops-there-would-be-no-air-support/

Besides the risk of being taken hostage and used as human shield, you could also get shot in the back...:

Described by some analysts as "a mousehole" because of its geographic location in a valley enclosed by hills and mountains, the Srebrenica enclave was easily blockaded by the Bosnian Serb forces of Colonel General Ratko Mladić, isolating the Dutch battalion, causing serious deficiencies in provisions. When VRS artillery squashed the resistance of the ARBiH 28ª Mountain Infantry Division that was defending the town, Lieutenant-Colonel Karremans made an urgent request for air support from the United Nations for two Dutch F-16s to attack the heavy armour of the VRS. The attack never took place. It had to be cancelled when Serb forces threatened to execute 50 members of Dutchbat III who had been seized as hostages. On 8 July, a [machine gun armed] Dutch YPR-765 armored vehicle [= armored vehicle on which Turkish ACV series of vehicles is based] took fire from the Serbs and withdrew. A group of Bosniaks demanded that the armored vehicle stay to defend them, and established a makeshift brigade to prevent its retreat. As the armored vehicle continued to withdraw, a Bosniak farmer who was manning the barricade threw a hand grenade onto it and subsequently killed Dutch soldier Raviv van Renssen.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutchbat

Turkish UNPROFOR contribution:

UNPROFOR was composed of nearly 39,000 personnel. It was composed of troops from Argentina, Australia, Bangladesh, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Colombia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Egypt, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Ghana, India, Indonesia, Ireland, Italy, Jordan, Kenya, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Nepal, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nigeria, Norway, Pakistan, Poland, Portugal, the Russian Federation, Slovak Republic, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Tunisia, Turkey, Ukraine, the United Kingdom and the United States.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Protection_Force

The UN Secretary-General requested from Turkey a 2,700 man-sized contingent including a 1,000 man-sized logistical battalion, a 500 man-sized engineering battalion and 1,200 man-sized mechanized infantry battalion.
Turkey declared its readiness to comply with the request, negotiated details of deployment and sent a committee to coordinate with UNPROFOR officials Later on 31 March 1994, UNSC Resolution 908 provided that the number of Turkish troops would be “1,000 plus.”
However on 27 April 1994 , the SC adopted Resolution 914 referring to reinforcement of UNPROFOR with another 6,550 troops in addition to 3,500 troops already committed. On 27 May 1994, the first part of the Turkish contingent which consists of a mechanized infantry battalion reinforced with engineering and logistical units arrived in Split, Croatia, and On 27 June 1994 the greater part of the Turkish unit arrived in Split.
In deference to Serbian sensibilities, the Turks are to be deployed for now in Zenica and Kakanj in central Bosnia, as far as possible from Serbian front lines.
The Turkish unit situated itself in Zenica and on 4 August 1994, it took over its responsibility in the section of a US division as a 117 subunit of Multinational Division North (MND,N).
Turkey contributed a regiment size Mechanized Task Force comprising of 1,450 personnel supported with sufficient combat service support and combat support units for UNPROFOR from 4 August 1994 to 31 December 1995
http://www.academia.edu/20062082/TURKISH_BATTALION_TASK_FORCE_IN_1992-1995_BOSNIA_WAR

 

[-SINAN-]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutchbat
You seem to fail to comprehend what UN peacekeepers are expected to do and were equipped to do [at least in those days].

We're, the Dutch, are not Imperial Japanese soldiers that would rather commit suicide in a Banzaii attack. Neither are the Turks. Besides, that would have been irresponsible, given the threats made against a far larger civilian population and captured friendly personnel.

FYI:

In 1994, the Canadian peacekeeping battalion (CANBAT) in Srebrenica was replaced by a battalion of Dutch peacekeepers (DUTCHBAT). With the VRS outnumbered and overextended countrywide in the winter of 1994, Mladić reasoned that it would be necessary to consolidate Bosnian Serb forces by eliminating one or more of the UN "safe areas" and the ARBiH garrisons located within them. Although attacking them would violate UN resolutions, Mladić believed that international forces would not confront the VRS as long as UNPROFOR units were vulnerable to suffering heavy casualties and hostage takings. A subsequent hostage crisis in which UN personnel were seized and used as human shields to prevent NATO airstrikes destroyed the credibility of UN deterrence in Bihać and Sarajevo. Mladić then turned his attention to Srebrenica, Goražde and Žepa, whose seizure would release considerable VRS forces for redeployment against an expected Croatian Army–ARBiH offensive in western Bosnia, while strengthening the Bosnian Serb claim to the entire Drina valley in case of a future peace settlement. Due their location, Srebrenica and Žepa were the most vulnerable of the UN "safe areas" in Bosnia, in stark contrast to Goražde, where UN forces had resisted the VRS before being enforced by the ARBiH
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Srebrenica

DUTCHBAT was a Dutch army battalion, Its mission consisted of deploying four successive rotations, each of around 450 persons, named "Dutchbat I, -II, -III and -IV". The Dutch troops were armed with personal weapons, machine guns and two anti-tank RPGs, in accordance with the UN mandate of UNPROFOR. The headquarters were installed in an old battery factory in Potočari, 5 km from Srebrenica. DUTCHBAT used 30 observation posts (OPs) throughout the perimeter of the enclave, mostly consisting of a sandbagged armored car and associated personnel and equipment.
UNPROFOR's mission was the protection of the civilian population of this Bosniak enclave (dubbed a "secure area" or "safe haven" by the UN). The Rules of Engagement (ROE) stated that the peacekeepers could use force for self-defence only. They relied on air support from NATO. Intervening in the fighting was forbidden to all NATO troops, however Minister Voorhoeve of the Netherlands had ordered that “under no circumstances was Dutchbat allowed to cooperate in the separate treatment of men.” DUTCHBAT's zone fell under siege by the VRS, when NATO air forces began bombing the Bosnian Serbs besieging Sarajevo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutchbat

May 1995 The spectacle of 350 Dutch Peacekeepers, held hostage by the Serbs around Sarajevo in response to NATO air strikes, stuns the UN.
May 22, 1995 General Bertrand Janvier, the United Nations Commander in Bosnia, confronts the UN in New York, urging the Security Council either to protect the Safe Area with massive troop increases or to withdraw the vulnerable peacekeepers in order to allow decisive air strikes. He is told to carry on as usual.
July 9, 1995 Shelling is constant as refugees flee from the advancing Serbs in the south. The Muslim defenders abandon their final position., while the Serbs advance to half mile from town. The road to Srebrenica is now open. Thirty Dutch peacekeepers are taken hostage by the Serbs
July 10, 1995 Colonel Karremans files his third request for air support with the United Nations. The Serbs shell Dutch positions. UN Commander General Janvier rejects the request for Air Support. Serbs are on the hillside over the town center. Karremans again makes a request for Air Support. General Janvier finally agrees to Air Support. The Serb attacks stop. Colonel Janvier postpones the air strikes until morning. Karremans tells the town leaders that 50 NATO planes will bomb Serbs at 6 a.m. the next morning.
July 11, 1995
9:00 a.m. Colonel Karremans is told that his request for close air support was submitted on the wrong form. He must re-submit the request.

10:30 a.m. The air support request reaches General Janvier. Airborne since 6 a.m., the NATO planes are out of fuel and must return to base in Italy.

11:00 a.m. General Janvier is unsure of Serb intentions and again hesitates over approving air support. More than 20,000 refugees - women, children, sick and elderly - flee for the main Dutch base at Potocari, three miles away.

12:05 p.m. General Janvier authorizes air support, four hours after the request is submitted.

2:40 p.m. Two Dutch F-16 Fighters drop two bombs on Serb positions. The Serbs threaten to kill Dutch hostages and shell refugees. Further strikes are abandoned.

4:15 p.m. General Ratko Mladic enters Srebrenica to claim the town for the Bosnian Serbs. He is accompanied by Serb camera crews. 5,000 refugees shelter inside the Dutch base. More than 20,000 people seek refuge in nearby factories and fields.

4:45 p.m. Serb soldiers arrive at Potocari.

8:30 p.m. Mladic summons Colonel Karremans to a meeting. Colonel Karremans asks for food and medicine. General Mladic delivers an ultimatum: the Muslims must hand over their weapons to guarantee their lives.

Midnight The remaining weapons are carried away by Muslim defenders, who lead 15,000 men on a perilous 40 mile journey through mountains and minefields toward Muslim territory. Mladic and General Krstic meet a delegation of Srebrenicans. Mladic again demands that weapons must be surrendered. He says: "Allah can't help you but Mladic can."
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/cryfromthegrave/massacre/time_line.html
https://www.srebrenica.org.uk/what-happened/srebrenica-genocide/happened-srebrenica/
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-srebrenica-massacre-timeline-20150711-story.html

NATO air attacks were cancelled after VRS threats to bomb the UN's Potočari compound, to kill Dutch and French military hostages and to attack surrounding locations where 20,000 to 30,000 civilian refugees were situated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre

On (the lack of UN) air support: http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archiv...l-dutch-troops-there-would-be-no-air-support/

Besides the risk of being taken hostage and used as human shield, you could also get shot in the back...:

Described by some analysts as "a mousehole" because of its geographic location in a valley enclosed by hills and mountains, the Srebrenica enclave was easily blockaded by the Bosnian Serb forces of Colonel General Ratko Mladić, isolating the Dutch battalion, causing serious deficiencies in provisions. When VRS artillery squashed the resistance of the ARBiH 28ª Mountain Infantry Division that was defending the town, Lieutenant-Colonel Karremans made an urgent request for air support from the United Nations for two Dutch F-16s to attack the heavy armour of the VRS. The attack never took place. It had to be cancelled when Serb forces threatened to execute 50 members of Dutchbat III who had been seized as hostages. On 8 July, a [machine gun armed] Dutch YPR-765 armored vehicle [= armored vehicle on which Turkish ACV series of vehicles is based] took fire from the Serbs and withdrew. A group of Bosniaks demanded that the armored vehicle stay to defend them, and established a makeshift brigade to prevent its retreat. As the armored vehicle continued to withdraw, a Bosniak farmer who was manning the barricade threw a hand grenade onto it and subsequently killed Dutch soldier Raviv van Renssen.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutchbat

Turkish UNPROFOR contribution:

UNPROFOR was composed of nearly 39,000 personnel. It was composed of troops from Argentina, Australia, Bangladesh, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Colombia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Egypt, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Ghana, India, Indonesia, Ireland, Italy, Jordan, Kenya, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Nepal, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nigeria, Norway, Pakistan, Poland, Portugal, the Russian Federation, Slovak Republic, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Tunisia, Turkey, Ukraine, the United Kingdom and the United States.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Protection_Force

The UN Secretary-General requested from Turkey a 2,700 man-sized contingent including a 1,000 man-sized logistical battalion, a 500 man-sized engineering battalion and 1,200 man-sized mechanized infantry battalion.
Turkey declared its readiness to comply with the request, negotiated details of deployment and sent a committee to coordinate with UNPROFOR officials Later on 31 March 1994, UNSC Resolution 908 provided that the number of Turkish troops would be “1,000 plus.”
However on 27 April 1994 , the SC adopted Resolution 914 referring to reinforcement of UNPROFOR with another 6,550 troops in addition to 3,500 troops already committed. On 27 May 1994, the first part of the Turkish contingent which consists of a mechanized infantry battalion reinforced with engineering and logistical units arrived in Split, Croatia, and On 27 June 1994 the greater part of the Turkish unit arrived in Split.
In deference to Serbian sensibilities, the Turks are to be deployed for now in Zenica and Kakanj in central Bosnia, as far as possible from Serbian front lines.
The Turkish unit situated itself in Zenica and on 4 August 1994, it took over its responsibility in the section of a US division as a 117 subunit of Multinational Division North (MND,N).
Turkey contributed a regiment size Mechanized Task Force comprising of 1,450 personnel supported with sufficient combat service support and combat support units for UNPROFOR from 4 August 1994 to 31 December 1995
http://www.academia.edu/20062082/TURKISH_BATTALION_TASK_FORCE_IN_1992-1995_BOSNIA_WAR

Yeah, i know....i think it was a wrong decision to deploy Dutch troops.... I think, if Turkish troops had been deployed there, they would protect the civilians even if it meant their deaths.

 

[UKBengali]

The Dutch should not be blamed for this.
They did not have enough strength to resist the Serbs and the UN did not use it's airpower to hit the Serbs.

 

[Penguin]

Yeah, i know....i think it was a wrong decision to deploy Dutch troops.... I think, if Turkish troops had been deployed there, they would protect the civilians even if it meant their deaths.

Blah blah blah.

If the Turks had been deployed there, it would have been in the same number and armaments. THey could have done just as little. Their men would also have been taken hostage and shot in the back. And they also wouldn't have gotten air support. If effect, for all their potential suicidal tendencies, they could have done just as little, without endangering a far greater civilian population, which Mladic was threatening to bomb and shell.

The UN wouldn't let Dutch F16 bomb in assistance to Dutch troops they had already been supporting. What makes you think it would be any different for the Turks, had Turkish aircraft been available?

In reality, UN stationed troop from muslim countries as far away from the fighting as it could, since it was considered that their involvement in action would spark even further conflict, not in the last place because forces opposing Serbs included units made up of volunteers from these muslim countries and the UN wanted to be sure of impartiality. (see link previous post)

IF you want to sit an feel superior, fine with me. But if you post here, you have to come up with a well founded and argumented statement, not just a cheap (yes, CHEAP) and meaningles (yes, MEANINGLESS) remark.