Religious Parties gather in Mardan to Demand Release of 33-Men Convicted in Mishaal Murder case

[Enigma_]

Oh bhai ja kar sare post parh lo pehle i am talking about those liberals who has problem with islam and pakistan. Koi moqa hath se jane nai detey pakistan ke khilaf.
What i mean is, justice should be done to both fanatic mullah and psycho liberals who want to implement thier worst imagination on other.

What a disgusting mindset you have. Extremism is born like this.

 

[graphican]

Lynch all f* mullas in public who are protesting to release criminals. Let "religious corrupts", "political corrupts" and "financial corrupts" vanish from the surface of Pakistan for good. Would these mother f* use religion to influence justice which is freaking scarce already?

 

[I.R.A]

@Kabira

Kabira bhai,

Islam is good religion if followed at home. But as political system its utter failure.

Actually you could say that about ALL religions. My suspicion for some time has been that further you take religion away from personal domain towards public domain, more it is prone to create mischief and chaos.

Regards

You and that poster seem to have no idea of Islam and Quran at all. Whatever he mentioned is his misunderstanding that all that is Islam. e.g.

• Blood money and Qisas law in Pakistan is un Islamic, no where it is reflective of clear guidance in Quran and its verses

• There is no punishment for apostasy in Quran ...... but people say its Islamic to kill people for apostasy

• There is no mention of blasphemy punishment in Quran ........ people say its Islamic to kill others on mere allegations and accusations.

However, what's mentioned in Quran clearly ........ is warning of eternal hell for anyone who has killed another innocent person .......... eternal hell, no forgiveness, no relief.

Killers and supporters of Mishal khan killing .... should be worried about their end ..... one way or another they had no authority to commit the brutal crime that they committed.

Pakistan isn't and was never a role model Islamic state, soon after Quaid and Liaquat the vision, the purpose and mission was all lost .......... now it's a state where every reasonable person who tries telling them what really is Islam ........ he gets declared infidel, hypocrite and in worst situations ....... killed, missing forever. Don't talk logic, don't talk facts, don't talk justice .......... we are zombie producing factories and we will keep producing and turning normal people into psycho killers.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@I.R.A

IRA mian,

You and that poster seem to have no idea of Islam and Quran at all.

Unfortunately, I am not a Muslim, so I dont know much about Islam or the Holy Quran, Kabira bhai can answer for himself.

Regards

 

[I.R.A]

Unfortunately, I am not a Muslim,

No problem Soul bai ............ we can if you wish ........ make you one of the fortunate ones ......... what do you say?

On a serious note ....... this problem of clergy prevails because Pakistanis surrender to them when they ask for fatwas about anything ....... without reading and understanding Quran themselves.

 

[El Sidd]

Islam is good religion if followed at home. But as political system its utter failure. It was good for backward tribal arab gangsters in 7th century but right now Pakistan need to start getting rid of its influence on political system slowly.

Alhumdulilah

The real fight is between the radicals and the moderate population in Pakistan.

And peace between India and Pakistan can only come from the moderate liberals and not from the radicals.

Fate of Pakistan lies in the outcome of this fight.

Taqreer khatam?

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@I.R.A

this problem of clergy prevails because Pakistanis surrender to them when they ask for fatwas about anything ....... without reading and understanding Quran themselves.

Yes, because we prefer shortcuts. I remember when we were in school most of us would read guides (we called them kunjis, I wonder if you had guides and if so what you called them) rather than the full text - to get marks with minimal effort. I guess same happens on spiritual matters as well- going to molvis, babas etc rather than study Quran/hadeeths/Vedas/Upanishads.

Regards

 

[I.R.A]

@I.R.A

this problem of clergy prevails because Pakistanis surrender to them when they ask for fatwas about anything ....... without reading and understanding Quran themselves.

Yes, because we prefer shortcuts. I remember when we were in school most of us would read guides (we called them kunjis, I wonder if you had guides and if so what you called them) rather than the full text - to get marks with minimal effort. I guess same happens on spiritual matters as well- going to molvis, babas etc rather than study Quran/hadeeths/Vedas/Upanishads.

Regards

Yes I have seen those guides, and I think they are called guides ........ same purpose, used with same mentality as in your part of the world.

I have no interest in spirituality ....... Islam is all about action, not about philosophy or imaginary super natural things ....... but real action, real world.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@I.R.A

Islam is all about action, ....... but real action

That's true, sir, Islam is the most action oriented religion.

Regards

 

[MBT 3000]

So which Liberal lynched someone because of their faith you utter moron.

well they have beeen sellouts, barking against Pakistan and some fake journos have been working for endia

Both maybe scum.

But atleast those pseudo liberals dont go on killin people.

but are a threat to national security

 

[Imad.Khan]

What works in Turkey will not work Pakistan. Pakistani Mullahs will not be dictated by authoritarian laws and they are not scared to die either for their freedom. Pakistani liberals ( if they exist) are not willing to die for what they believe obviously.

We have to start thinking that some of Islamic sharia laws are the problem, these mullahs are not misinterpreting Islam. Punishment for blasphemy is death in Islam. Just like rich is allowed to get away with murder in Pakistan after paying money to victim family. I bet many of so called liberal elite use these Islamic laws to full extent when it favor them. Islam is definitely problem here, stop living in denial.

Actually in Islam for any crime the punishment needs to be handed down by the huqumat ul waqt and the case has to be brought forward to a Qazi and the accused is given a chance to defend himself. No individual can take the law in his own hand and no punishment can be handed down without the accuser providing proof and the accused having a chance to defend himself.

Islam is not the problem, people are the problem that twist Islam to their agenda.

 

[MBT 3000]

those religious parties should stop. if Court convicted them With evidence then Accept it. but libtards, mentallectuals, sickularists, traitors, sellouts, fake journos and "human right actvists" need to be dealt With as many of them are paid to bark against Pakistan and a threat to national security

What is worse lost in one's own imagination or a mob beating up an innocent guy? atleast with liberals they will not propogate to kill you at the drop of a hat.

they bark against the state and are paid by Foreign embassies

just a simple question from you.what's the worse thing that a psycho pakistani liberal has done yet in the name of his/her ideology?now compare it with the worst thing done by fanatic mullahs for their ideology and then tell us what do you think which one is the worst and do the actions of one group even merited to be called equal to that of the other?

liberals that are paid by Foreign embassies to bark against the country and army arent innocent

 

[litman]

Both maybe scum.

But atleast those pseudo liberals dont go on killin people.

they kill in a different way. these pseudo liberals blindly follow west. they are in command in pakistan and their decisions have cost us thousands of lives over the past 15 yrs.they can sell their country for some selfish interests. secondly they also launch attacks on the ideology of the state.

 

[Zibago]

Cancer + Ebola + Aids one might survive but with Mullah in any Country, is more dangerous .

Yahodi sazish intensifies

There are far more Pseudo-Liberals in Pakistan than Pseudo-Mullahs or Pseudo-Islamists

Not really Compare sizes of mombati mafia to supporters of AshiqsTM

Law should be equally applicable, a fair inquiry is needed about the allegations of blasphemy on mashal khan. Moreover, the pending blasphemy cases should be prosecuted in order to restore the faith on law because we have several examples from past where people commit blasphemy and get a solid visa with handsome incentives. Every sane mind knows this fact that the mentality against Islam from last 1400 years is promoting blasphemy directly or indirectly.

This is not a talkshow debate but a serious matter, state is responsible. Seculars only accept those decisions where mullahs get punished, any decision against blasphemers is mocked on TV channels and throughout the world. Muslims can compromise on anything except the honor of Holy Prophet صلی اللہ علیہ والہ وسلم

State should hang atleast half of the convicted blasphemers to restore faith in law. Then hang anyone who will take law in hand on alleged blasphemy charges.

Yes people get killed apparently alleged blasphemy charges are more serious than terror mobs good let people die

Islam is good religion if followed at home. But as political system its utter failure. It was good for backward tribal arab gangsters in 7th century but right now Pakistan need to start getting rid of its influence on political system slowly.

What in the world happened to you
@Hell hound

 

[AbuzarIlyas]

Unfortunately the lavish lifestyle of our elite class is preventing them to understand this issue of Namoos e Risalat صلی اللہ علیہ والہ وسلم

You guys have to understand this basic concept on which whole building infrastructure of Islam is based upon. A Muslim can never compromise on this issue. All suggestions from members on this forum are just naive or childish talks. Islam clearly described the punishment of a blasphemer.

If you want to create your own shariat then you can easily join Daesh, TTP or Rabwah version which have no connection to Islam.

Islam is a perfect religion and its parameters are defined. You cannot allow anyone to change it according to their needs.