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Backed by their govts, those eliminated in reckoning for Rs 43,000-crore fighter aircraft deal press for reasons why.The elimination of four aircraft vendors from the $9.5-billion global competition to sell 126 medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) to the Indian Air Force (IAF) has not been accepted quietly. Business Standard has learnt the ministry of defence (MoD) has already got letters from all four, inquiring why their fighters were found unfit.

The first inquiry was from Russia, asking why the IAF had found the MiG-35 unsuitable. Next was the US embassy here, asking the specific reasons that had led to the elimination of the two American fighters, the Boeing F/A-18 Super Hornet; and the Lockheed Martin F-16IN Super Viper. MoD sources also confirm that Sweden’s Gripen International has written in, seeking details of why the fancied Gripen NG fighter was ruled out.

Earlier, on April 27, the MoD had written to the four vendors, briefly outlining but not detailing the reasons for their elimination. The remaining two vendors —Eurofighter GmbH and Dassault of France — were asked to extend the validity of their price bids, given two years earlier.

Vendor protests after elimination from a tender would usually be rejected as a pro forma exercise. This time, however, an MoD procedural error could provide the vendors a lever to claw their way back into contention. The MoD’s Technical Oversight Committee (TOC), which must review the IAF’s technical evaluation and flight trials to ascertain that procurement procedures were followed in full, had not completed its work before the MoD sent out the rejection letters.

It remains unclear why the MoD sent out its rejection letters before the TOC had ensured full compliance with procedures. Now, the three-man TOC — headed by the Scientific Advisor to the Raksha Mantri (SA to RM), V K Saraswat, with Bharat Electronics Ltd chief, Ashwini Datt and the IAF’s Air Marshal Anil Chopra as members — is scrambling to complete this mandatory review. Emailed a questionnaire by Business Standard, the MoD has not responded.

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Aviation experts apprehend that this procedural lacuna could be exploited by one of the “politically influential vendors” (read Boeing and Lockheed Martin) to re-enter contention. Senior IAF officers, however, emphatically rule out selecting either American fighter. Says an IAF officer involved in the selection: “The US companies, which flaunt their technological leadership, are feigning hurt that their fighters were found technologically unsuitable. But it was their misjudgement to offer the IAF fighters like the F-16 and the F-18 that are decades old. It is arrogance to claim these have been modernised and are good enough for a country like India. If they wanted to argue technology, they should have fielded the F-35.”

The Russian vendor, RAC MiG, is also upset with the IAF’s rejection but for another reason. “The MiG-35 has been developed in Russia as a natural replacement for the 2000-odd MiG-21s that are in coming to the end of their service lives in tens of air forces around the world. With the IAF — a bastion of MiG fighters — rejecting the MiG-35, the Russian builder worries about the negative signal this will send across the world,” points out Pushpindar Singh, aerospace expert and editor-in-chief of the trade magazine, Vayu.

Meanwhile, Gripen International is fine-tuning its strategy for appealing the IAF’s rejection. According to the MoD’s letter to the company, the Gripen NG was found non-compliant with the IAF’s tender requirements on 51 counts, of which 43 relate to the critical Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar. Gripen International argues it is unfair to say the IAF has not been provided “proof of technology”, or proof that the Gripen NG’s Selex AESA radar (still under development) had surmounted the key technological obstacles needed for operationalising it in time for delivery to India. That is because Selex (in partnership with Euroradar) is also developing the Eurofighter’s AESA radar, which the IAF has accepted as technologically viable, and likely to be ready in time for delivery to India. Gripen points out that if Selex has convinced the IAF about having mastered the technology for the Eurofighter’s AESA radar, that same technology will drive the Gripen NG’s radar.

But IAF sources reveal that Gripen failed to provide proof that their AESA radar development was on track and that they could integrate it on a fighter. In contrast, Dassault had fitted two prototype AESA radars on Rafale fighters, proving they were close to completion. Eurofighter, too, test-flew a prototype AESA radar for the IAF evaluation team, convincing them it would be ready by 2014-15.

So far, all six vendors had conspicuously praised the MMRCA technical and flight evaluation procedures, declaring this was the most professionally handled competitive procurement they had ever encountered anywhere. Now, clearly, the gloves are off.

SOURCE : Ajai Shukla /Business-standard
 
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We should be transparent in our dealings. Why keep everyone guessing?

Why not just tell them where exactly there aircraft failed.
 
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We should be transparent in our dealings. Why keep everyone guessing?

Why not just tell them where exactly there aircraft failed.

thats not practiced even in small defence deals leave alone a 10 billion dollar deal.

all defence deals come with a statutory warning.

the buyer reserves the right to reject any bid without giving any reason whatsoever.
 
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“The US companies, which flaunt their technological leadership, are feigning hurt that their fighters were found technologically unsuitable. But it was their misjudgement to offer the IAF fighters like the F-16 and the F-18 that are decades old. It is arrogance to claim these have been modernised and are good enough for a country like India. If they wanted to argue technology, they should have fielded the F-35.”
 
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“The US companies, which flaunt their technological leadership, are feigning hurt that their fighters were found technologically unsuitable. But it was their misjudgement to offer the IAF fighters like the F-16 and the F-18 that are decades old. It is arrogance to claim these have been modernised and are good enough for a country like India. If they wanted to argue technology, they should have fielded the F-35.”

India definitely can get F-35. But it need to wait in the back of the line. In any case, its a small loss for Boeing and LM. No big deal.
 
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India definitely can get F-35. But it need to wait in the back of the line. In any case, its a small loss for Boeing and LM. No big deal.

Small loss....hmmm.. that's why Mr. Obama was personally pushing the deal... You know American companies know better than you so stop being advocate of them.
 
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India definitely can get F-35. But it need to wait in the back of the line. In any case, its a small loss for Boeing and LM. No big deal.

but we wont be getting tot for that... Thats why india would have rejected US proposal.
 
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India definitely can get F-35. But it need to wait in the back of the line. In any case, its a small loss for Boeing and LM. No big deal.

lol small loss a deal worth 10 billion dollars has slipped out of their hands and u r saying small loss.

no less then their prez was lobbying for the deal and u say small loss.
 
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watever tech americans have,if you ask us to sign those end user agreement and treat us like clients and don't give tot....

i'm damn sure,americans were out of the tender few years back itself
 
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ITS INDIAN BUSINESS AND INDIAN MONEY.

IF INDIA DECIDES F16 F18 OR MIG35 NOT GOOD ENUF TO MEET INDIAN NEEDS then tough luk.

India can buy what it wants an explanation is not needed
 
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but we wont be getting tot for that... Thats why india would have rejected US proposal.

What is the point of getting TOT if India are not going to do anything about the technology. India should go for the best plane. But instead, they go for the best kick backs.
 
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