Regime Change: Analysts could predict consequences, architects couldn't??

[Zowais]

1- Habib Akram, in this video, published prior to April 9th, has predicted the possibile consequences of regime change quite accurately. Were the architects of this process so incompetent they couldn't foresee things?? Or they were expecting some other outcomes? If so, what was their basis for those expectations? Or they simply ignored the consequences?

2- one of relatively serious analysts on main stream media, Imtiaz Gul, presenting dark picture of regime change, extremely critical economic consequences and how, in his opinion, its part of hybrid warfare against Pakistan.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1525847872947765249

 

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1- Habib Akram, in this video, published prior to April 9th, has predicted the possibile consequences of regime change quite accurately. Were the architects of this process so incompetent they couldn't foresee things?? Or they were expecting some other outcomes? If so, what was their basis for those expectations? Or they simply ignored the consequences?

2- one of relatively serious analysts on main stream media, Imtiaz Gul, presenting dark picture of regime change, extremely critical economic consequences and how, in his opinion, its part of hybrid warfare against Pakistan.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1525847872947765249

This was establishment conspiracy to destroy pdm under the garb of neutrality. They knew shahbaz will go london for instructions from their nemesis .

 

[Zowais]

This was establishment conspiracy to destroy pdm under the garb of neutrality. They knew shahbaz will go london for instructions from their nemesis .

If there's one party which has lost reputation in regime change operation, its establishment. Never in my life i could imagine this lowest level of support for institutions in common people.
What can make establishment so desparate to commit this suicide attack on PDM, after exporting convicted criminal, nawaz shareef, to london?

Lifafa journalists.

You meqn people should listen to Fahad hussain and mushtaq minhas for independent analysis?

Lifafa journalists.

You meqn people should listen to Fahad hussain and mushtaq minhas for independent analysis?

 

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If there's one party which has lost reputation in regime change operation, its establishment. Never in my life i could imagine this lowest level of support for institutions in common people.
What can make establishment so desparate to commit this suicide attack on PDM, after exporting convicted criminal, nawaz shareef, to london?


You meqn people should listen to Fahad hussain and mushtaq minhas for independent analysis?


You meqn people should listen to Fahad hussain and mushtaq minhas for independent analysis?

Unfortunately our public develops sympathy for a person in jail.. so sending him abroad worked well towards destroying his support base further and making the shahbaz clan gain advantage which they would never had in case he was home. Also there was chinese involvement in this to help a guy who signed less open deals escape and not become a bad omen for their bri projects elsewhere .. regardless I agree we should be strong enough to keep this scum home and public should be indifferent..Nawaz stayed mum on Musharraf escape and maybe that helped him in the end.

 

[Zowais]

Unfortunately our public develops sympathy for a person in jail.. so sending him abroad worked well towards destroying his support base further and making the shahbaz clan gain advantage which they would never had in case he was home. Also there was chinese involvement in this to help a guy who signed less open deals escape and not become a bad omen for their bri projects elsewhere .. regardless I agree we should be strong enough to keep this scum home and public should be indifferent..Nawaz stayed mum on Musharraf escape and maybe that helped him in the end.

Isn't it a bit unjustified, you don't blame NS and SS for making their choices but blame others for that?
Secondly, you are not talking about american influence forcing regime, sending govt of a party having maximum NA seats home, but you are more concerned with Chinese influence? I don't see a sense proportion in your writing

 

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Isn't it a bit unjustified, you don't blame NS and SS for making their choices but blame others for that?
Secondly, you are not talking about american influence forcing regime, sending govt of a party having maximum NA seats home, but you are more concerned with Chinese influence? I don't see a sense proportion in your writing

I'm against foreign influence in our politics in any form whether it's from US, China or saudia.
I'm blaming the general mindset...what happened after bhutto was hanged.. sindh card was used to create an anti army party. And it won next elections... you dont understand our people well ..the victim card is very powerful in Pakistani politics.

 

[Zowais]

I'm against foreign influence in our politics in any form whether it's from US, China or saudia.
I'm blaming the general mindset...what happened after bhutto was hanged.. sindh card was used to create an anti army party. And it won next elections... you dont understand our people well ..the victim card is very powerful in Pakistani politics.

I am sorry but i would again disagree you sir.
PPP did not only came to power at BB's assassinations because of sympathy card.
It was an NRO. PPP and N league came back to Pakistan with an understanding with local and international establishment, after all their previous crimes were forgiven. Old faces were replaced by (not so) newer ones, foreign agenda perusal continued, without discontinuity.

PS. Sympathy card may have some significance in influencing public inclinationations, but how much relevance/significance public opinion has been given throughout history, that's the question.

 

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I am sorry but i would again disagree you sir.
PPP did not only came to power at BB's assassinations because of sympathy card.
It was an NRO. PPP and N league came back to Pakistan with an understanding with local and international establishment, after all their previous crimes were forgiven. Old faces were replaced by (not so) newer ones, foreign agenda perusal continued, without discontinuity.

I was talking about 80s.
Sindh card was played back then as well. So was the victim card in rest of Pakistan.

The only way we can truly start punishing these politicians is high level clamp down on people who sympathize with them and make them disappear. . the other way is education which is long term.

 

[Crimson Blue]

 

[Catalystic]

Either incompetency or plain disregard for consequences
Or a plan to destabilise and eventually force Pak to give up the nuclear programs/missiles

 

[Zowais]

Either incompetency or plain disregard for consequences
Or a plan to destabilise and eventually force Pak to give up the nuclear programs/missiles

Point is that no reasonable analyst, participating in such high risk assessments, can be this incompetent. Habib Akram's analysis, just an example, published prior to the events, is quite accurate.
Circumstances indicate that this was orchestrated by Americans.
How this will shape in future; that's the question. Americans droned any effort made for peace in Afghanistan during their occupation. They even did not spare our tribal areas. Now, any potential resolution of this situation, not serving their agenda, may also meet the same fate. I don't see many people considering that, as all are focused on local factors e.g. elections, economy, etc.

 

[WotTen]

The operation is going according to plan.

The agenda of Big Boss is to break Pakistan into four independent countries.
The only question is why Little Boss played along. Maybe a ranch in Texas?

 

[SIPRA]

The operation is going according to plan.

The agenda of Big Boss is to break Pakistan into four independent countries.
The only question is why Little Boss played along. Maybe a ranch in Texas?

Seems to be.

 

[TNT]

1- Habib Akram, in this video, published prior to April 9th, has predicted the possibile consequences of regime change quite accurately. Were the architects of this process so incompetent they couldn't foresee things?? Or they were expecting some other outcomes? If so, what was their basis for those expectations? Or they simply ignored the consequences?

2- one of relatively serious analysts on main stream media, Imtiaz Gul, presenting dark picture of regime change, extremely critical economic consequences and how, in his opinion, its part of hybrid warfare against Pakistan.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1525847872947765249

If analysts and ordinary ppl could predict the outcome, then u think those architects couldn't??
The reality is that they knew exactly what will happen and they wanted it to happen. They just didn't realize that people will see it clearly and have such a strong reaction. Our establishment is basically full of brown sahabs who are western slaves, they operate on instructions of the west and are loyal to them and not Pakistan. With all the WoT drama, they tried their best to break Pakistan but Allah saved us, now they are trying to bankrupt Pakistan and disintegrate it. Its a blessing of Allah that we have finally recognized the real enemy within. We should not let this slip and brutally kill these pigs who have been destroying Pakistan from within and holding it back.

 

[ghazi52]

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