Refuting feminist Western propaganda and perception of the realities of Saudi Arabian women

[Naif al Hilali]

women in "Saudi" Arabia are second class citizens[/USER]

Bismillah ir Rahman ar Raheem

If you had claimed that Pakistanis and Indians were second class citizens in Saudi Arabia AND the Unites States, I would not bother to disagree. I am even considered worse than that when I go to the capital of my province, due to my ethnicity.

But, brother, Muslim women in Saudi Arabia, the United States, and Pakistan are Queens of their households, are treated reverentially by all, are well-educated, and are the most influential members of our society. If some uneducated people in villages and in government, who know nothing about the religion, suppress women, and the poor, and the needy, it does not affect how the majority are treated.

Regards

 

[Indus Pakistan]

But some are Hindus?

Yes, indeed. I suspect majority are Hindu - reflecting the demographic in their source regions inside India.

Kerala > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerala
Bihar > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bihar

 

[Soumitra]

Yes most indians working in Gulf are hindus. Shame to see Islamic culture getting polluted by these smelly dark dotheads:

Reported for racist language

 

[naveen mishra]

Yes most indians working in Gulf are hindus. Shame to see Islamic culture getting polluted by these smelly dark dotheads:

what ever be,at least they are not trying to pretend them self as Arab lol

 

[Naif al Hilali]

Yes most indians working in Gulf are hindus. Shame to see Islamic culture getting polluted by these ...QUOTE]
Bismillah ir Rahman ar Raheem

Not cool, bro. We should be compassionate and empathetic towards all of God's creations. My forefathers were Brahmin but their progeny reverted to Islam and may Allah guide us all to the straight path.

Hifz u kum Allah

 

[naveen mishra]

never quote me curry yuk

and you *** hole , mind your language
aukat mai rahna sikha le .........

 

[Naif al Hilali]

Bismillah ir Rahman ar Raheem

Yes, brother and I would be the first to say 'destroy their armies'. But our religion teaches us to be compassionate towards all of Adam's children. Maybe their descendants will be better Muslims than us. Other people on this forum have quoted the example of the people of Taif and the Quresh, people who initially opposed Islam but later were instrumental in fighting for it and spreading it.

Allah keep everyone safe.

 

[Jaanbaz]

It was an interesting thread until some Indians ruined it. And lol @ the Pakistani wannabe Arab.

 

[Attila the Hun]

Yes, indeed. I suspect majority are Hindu - reflecting the demographic in their source regions inside India.

Kerala > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerala
Bihar > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bihar

I feel like I know Indians just a little bit more after visiting this thread. lol
Thanks again.

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

Around the middle of the first millennium B.C., there were Sabaeans also in the Horn of Africa, in the area that later became the realm of Aksum.[9]

Again, Sheba was an Arabic Kingdom in South Arabia which also had control of Parts of Africa.

There are five places in the Bible where the writer distinguishes Sheba (שׁבא), i. e. the Yemenite Sabaeans, from Seba (סבא), i. e. the African Sabaeans. In Ps. 72:10 they are mentioned together: "the kings of Sheba and Seba shall offer gifts".[10] This spelling differentiation, however, may be purely factitious; the indigenous inscriptions make no such difference, and both Yemenite and African Sabaeans are there spelt in exactly the same way.[9]

With all the mixing going on between these nations for who knows how long, I really doubt she looked liked the Arabs of the North. And I seriously doubt she looked like this:

That's called White Washing and you know it. ^^^

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Again, Sheba was an Arabic Kingdom in South Arabia which also had control of Parts of Africa.

With all the mixing going on between these nations for who knows how long, I really doubt she looked liked the Arabs of the North. And I seriously doubt she looked like this:

That's called White Washing and you know it. ^^^

Yes, I know. Never claimed otherwise.

I believe that she looked like the average Arabian/Arab/Middle Easterner. Her looks definitely (or at least very likely) spanned between all 3 colored photos in post 69.

Ordinary Yemeni girls:













Or if she was a mixture of Arabians and Southern Semitic speaking Habesha people (whose DNA today almost 3000 years later is approximately 40-50% Arabian/Middle Eastern as I told you about and proved to you in that other thread due to ancient Arabian migration into Horn of Africa) she could have looked like this skin color wise:



The lighter version:



Or a combination of those two or all 8. Essentially I do not think that she would look apart nor do I believe that she was an African as in Sub-Saharan African (negroid). No sources claim that.

Look at the ancient statues in post 69. All have Caucasiod features which Arabians/Arabs/Middle Easterners are as well. Even European racialists at the height of European racism admitted to this.

Physical appearance
The Arabid race was distinguished from the West-Mediterranean race by some minor characteristic facial traits. These include almond-shaped eyes, very dark hair color, the Semitic smile (conditioned by unusually deep Fossa canina), untanned skin color tending to a pale olive, and often but not always a narrow or a broad aquiline nose.

This physical type had in earlier times a broader-formed Syrid subtype, which was found among the farmers of the Fertile Crescent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabid_race

The "Arabid race" was a subgroup of the "Mediterranean race". Actually geographically and genetically this makes sense although it is a bit foolish (if not very) to group people like this in our modern times.

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

Yes, I know. Never claimed otherwise.

Then why go out of your way to post such images? Rhetorical.

I believe that she looked like the average Arabian/Arab/Middle Easterner.

3,000 years ago, really? Just 7,000 years ago it was still common to find Europeans that were darker than today's Arabs. And now you're showing modern day Yemeni Arabs as if they are even remotely comparable to people 3,000 years ago.

That's amazing, you know that. I'm fairly certain you've been hanging around racist Europeans a bit too long and picked up a lot of White Supremacy mixed in with some Arab Supremacy.

Physical appearance
The Arabid race was distinguished from the West-Mediterranean race by some minor characteristic facial traits. These include almond-shaped eyes, very dark hair color, the Semitic smile (conditioned by unusually deep Fossa canina), untanned skin color tending to a pale olive, and often but not always a narrow or a broad aquiline nose.

Look at this, confusing Caucasoid nose shape, with skin color and thinking it's related? Caucasoid has absolutely nothing to do with someones skin color.

Essentially I do not think that she would look apart nor do I believe that she was an African as in Sub-Saharan African (negroid)

Where the phuck did I say that? Ethiopians are not negroids you genius. Oh and by the way, Negroid does not mean black.

In fact Caucasian, Mongoloid, and Negroid, have nothing to do with skin color. It had to do with the human skull shape and anatomy. You should look it up and educate yourself.
Discussion is over.

PS The Semitic smile is cute, you should put that under KKK in the Encyclopedia of Race Supremacy.

 

[Gothic]

looks like some people are even more scared of Trump and his rhetoric than the Mexicans and those Chinese

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Then why go out of your way to post such images? Rhetorical.

3,000 years ago, really? Just 7,000 years ago it was still common to find Europeans that were darker than today's Arabs. And now you're showing modern day Yemeni Arabs as if they are even remotely comparable to people 3,000 years ago.

That's amazing, you know that. I'm fairly certain you've been hanging around racist Europeans a bit too long and picked up a lot of White Supremacy mixed in with some Arab Supremacy.

Look at this, confusing Caucasoid nose shape, with skin color and thinking it's related? Caucasoid has absolutely nothing to do with someones skin color.

Where the phuck did I say that? Ethiopians are not negroids you genius. Oh and by the way, Negroid does not mean black.

In fact Caucasian, Mongoloid, and Negroid, have nothing to do with skin color. It had to do with the human skull shape and anatomy. You should look it up and educate yourself.
Discussion is over.

PS The Semitic smile is cute, you should put that under KKK in the Encyclopedia of Race Supremacy.

What is wrong with posting available images of a historical person, including statues? I posted photos of her in 3 different skin colors. I did not cherry pick anything (I simply made a Google search) nor did I even think about skin color when I posted them. In fact I posted one of the pictures solely because I thought that the photo was cool. The one with the lions. As for the remaining 5 photos none show any skin color at all but statues that are supposed to show her (from ancient Yemen) and a sketch from a cover of a book.

You really need some kind of help as you are quick to assume things that only you can spot or imagine.

Arabs and Middle Easterners are not Europeans. You have shown no proof of Arabs or people of the Middle East being darker 3000 years ago. No, the ancestors of Arabs 3000 years ago were aliens and completely different looking than how we look today. Sounds very probable. In fact we have likely become darker as millions of non-Arabs/non-natives of the Arab world have arrived, mainly Afro-Arabs and also others from more Southern regions.

I never mentioned skin color even once in this discussion before you mentioned it. Nor do I care about it. We Arabs do not consume whitening cream and have always praised our most common skin color (olive) in poetry, literature, music since time immortal.

Who said that being Caucasian had anything to do with skin color? Not me. Again it is something that you have invented yourself.

Anyway for an American your English abilities are really horrible. I never said that Ethiopians were Negroid. I said that she was not an Sub-Saharan African as in Negroid. Ethiopians are Horn of Africans. They are not considered as Sub-Saharan Africans along with other Horn of Africa countries and their inhabitants.

Anyway you started a discussion here by stating a historical lie (claiming that she was an Ethiopian) while I proved the opposite. Later to start accusing me of racism. As if I of all people did not praise/write many positives about Ethiopia and Horn of Africa. Or as if I did not admit that I find Habesha women to be one of the most beautiful women and last time I checked they are significantly darker than Arabs and other MENA people. I am convinced that KKK members (where did that come from - I am not an American) would do such things in the open. Praising Negros is really their favorite thing to do after all.

Essentially stop acting like a troll.

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

http://www.livescience.com/42838-european-hunter-gatherer-genome-sequenced.html
Even 7,000 years ago Europeans were still likely black. So it wouldn't be surprising that just 3,000 years ago people in Yemeni were pretty much dark skinned.

Anyway you started a discussion here by stating a historical lie (claiming that she was an Ethiopian) while I proved the opposite.

Really, you're the one that thinks that only an ethnic Arab can be the Queen of Sheba. The rest of the world say she was born in:

Born: 1001 BC · Agame, Ethiopia
Death place: Axum, Ethiopia
Romance: Aramatleko ., King of Sheba · King Solomon
Children: Menelik I (Son)
Parents: Agabos or Psusennes II, King of ... · Bashteth Agazyan ., Queen of The...

I swear, all I did was type Queen of Sheba in the search engine.

Anyways, like I said before, the Kingdom of Sheba contained both parts of Ethiopia and Yemen. There's a high probability that she was born in Ethiopia (which was part of Sheba), married to an Arab King, and traded goods with King Solomon of the North.

After all it's the globally accepted theory. Nobody is saying the Kingdom of Sheba isn't Arabic. But every time that I mention that she is very likely an ethnic Ethiopian, you say "No, she's Arabic".

Every time you say that, it's like you're against the idea that Arabs can practice miscegenation.

Anyway you started a discussion here by stating a historical lie (claiming that she was an Ethiopian) while I proved the opposite.

You only proved that Sheba was a South Arabic Kingdom that included Yemen and parts of Ethiopia and the Horn of Africa. Repeatedly. Which I repeatedly accepted.

I never said Ethiopians are ugly, and I never claimed you did either so why mention it?