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So Pakistani jurnos don't want to write/hear what Wall Street journal could easily find.

Pathetic news men who cover 2-bit Qadri and U-turn Khan Jalsas and noora shenanigans but no truth about IDPs. What a shame.


IDPs from N Waziristan recall nightmares with Taliban

By APP
Published about 5 hours ago

—File photo
NEW YORK: Displaced people from North Waziristan agency have spoken out against Pakistani Taliban's nightmarish hold of their tribal region bordering Afghanistan, saying they destroyed their social structure and traditions.

Some of the tens of thousands of people from Waziristan, who have taken shelter in Bannu following Pakistani military's anti-Taliban operation, told a reporter of The Wall Street Journal (WSJ) that “unbalanced, gun-toting” young militants had let loose a reign of terror in the area, bringing violence and uncertainty to daily life.

During the past decade, according to the dispatch, North Waziristan had become a haven for thousands of Pakistani Taliban, Al Qaeda, Afghan insurgents and militants from across the world, including Europe.

“Everyone feared being kidnapped by the Taliban at any time, said “Zia-ur-Rehman, who ran a pharmacy in Miramshah. “Everyone knew someone who was picked up by the Taliban.”

The non-militant inhabitants of North Waziristan were mostly traders or farmers, and almost all families had kin working as labourers in the oil-rich Gulf countries who send money home, it was pointed out.

They enjoyed a tribal structure that provided relative stability and security. Then the US-led invasion of Afghanistan in 2001 forced elements from the Afghan Taliban and Al Qaeda to take refuge there.

They inspired local tribesmen to form a Pakistani version of the Taliban, originally under a warlord named Nek Mohammad, who was killed in 2004 in the first US drone strike within Pakistan.

By 2007, when Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) was established, the local militants had grown much more radical, closer to Al Qaeda than to the Afghan Taliban, and turning on Pakistani state rather than fighting the “infidel” US Army in Afghanistan.

The TTP has since then killed hundreds of Waziristan elders, locals told WSJ, wiping out the traditional leadership, which could have led resistance.

A 2009 military operation in South Waziristan sent more TTP and other militants, especially ethnic Uzbeks, into North Waziristan, concentrating violent extremism there, with sleeper cells across the country.

“If anyone would have spoken against Taliban or gave information, his head would be lying at your feet the very next morning,” Gul Naeem Wazir, who came to Bannu from the Spinwan area of North Waziristan with 28 family members, was quoted as saying.

Gul Naeem Wazir said the Pakistani Taliban “eliminated” the social structure and traditions of the region, which were based on a loose system of governance by tribal elders, known as “Maliks,” and a “jirga,” or court of elders, to settle disputes.

Instead of rule by elders, previously marginaliased and poor young men, in their 20s and early 30s, with long hair and shaggy beards, became powerful as Taliban commanders, recruiting an army of even younger gunmen and suicide bombers.

“You could see them in the bazaar, morning, afternoon or night,” Zia-ur-Rehman of Miramshah was quoted as saying. “Or they would drive around in cars with blacked-out windows.”

“I was happy before. But then these long-haired men came and destroyed our lives,” Mohammad Rauf, a 55-year-old from a village near Miramshah, said. “Whoever went near them, especially children would have their minds infected.”

Locals said that apart from militants from Central Asia with distinctive facial features 'Uzbeks, Tajiks and Uighurs from China' it was hard to tell whether the gunmen belonged to the TTP, local warlord Gul Bahadur, or the Haqqani network, which fights in Afghanistan.

The Uzbeks, more educated than the TTP, used to spend a lot of time in the Internet cafes of Miramshah and the town of Mir Ali, Nizam Dawar, who runs a non-governmental organisation that works in North Waziristan, told WSJ.

“People eventually realised that they made a mistake by giving these militants space,” Dawar said. “But by then it was too late.“


IDPs from N Waziristan recall nightmares with Taliban - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
 
Keep your fingers crossed that those butcher ISIS terrorists don't come in and join up with the TTP to establish a Pakistani Caliphate that the TTP desperately want.
 
Keep your fingers crossed that those butcher ISIS terrorists don't come in and join up with the TTP to establish a Pakistani Caliphate that the TTP desperately want.

Groups like these are the wind. They move from high pressure areas to areas of low pressure. And they flock like ants on honey when they see a vacuum like Iraq. N. Waziristan is currently high pressure point with the ongoing operation. There's no way they'd want to be there.
 
Keep your fingers crossed that those butcher ISIS terrorists don't come in and join up with the TTP to establish a Pakistani Caliphate that the TTP desperately want.

I think TTP terrorists are more brutal than any other groups. The thing is that TTP terrorists are weakened severely...remember 2009 - 2011?
 
Something exact opposite has been reported by BBC and local media
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The first one is from naibaat....

Please do not spread Taib-iches propaganda.

There is plenty of evidence of how tribal elders have been butchered.

Avoid doing the job of Shaitan.

Pakistani newspapers are already doing Shaitani job. Do not assist them. Please.

Wall Street journal report is much closer to the reality compared to Mullahtic Urdu press that is biased to the core towards Islamism.

Thank you

Keep your fingers crossed that those butcher ISIS terrorists don't come in and join up with the TTP to establish a Pakistani Caliphate that the TTP desperately want.

ISIS has India in its map. so worry about your side of the border and keep your side of the fingers crossed, or uncorssed.

And let us worry about our side.

We don't need to cross our fingers. Why?

Those fingers of our jawans are pushing the trigger and blasting Talibitches @rses.

Thank you.
 
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ISIS has India in its map. so worry about your side of the border and keep your side of the fingers crossed, or uncorssed.

And let us worry about our side.
And how do you think they propose to enter India? By air? No! By sea? No! Or through Pakistan? Yes! That's why I worry about your side as its going to affect us too. :azn:

Thanks.
 
And how do you think they propose to enter India? By air? No! By sea? No! Or through Pakistan? Yes! That's why I worry about your side as its going to affect us too. :azn:

Thanks.

same question(s) are true about Pakistan too.

I am sure Indian posters in this thread have access to google maps at least.
 
The tribals never integrated with Pak and had their own system of governance detached from the state which archaic and should not have been allowed to happen. TTP and Uzbeks would never have invaded had the tribals evolved and joined mainstream society.

I know its tough to let old habits go, to move on from a very old way of life however its 2014 and the world has changed. Have some pride and modernize.

I blame Afghan pasthuns from holding back people of FATA, their backwards mindset rubbed off on people in fata because they had most contact.

What the people in FATA need to understand is dignity and pride is never achieved in small numbers. The same is the case with some Baloch.

If you look at all the examples of successful societies in the world, US, UK, Germany, Australia etc, they have a mixture of every ethnicity and collaborating is promoted for the greater good of the state.

Keep within one ethnicity will not make you progress, might make you feel a little superior for a bit, might also mean you feel completely in charge but you will never achieve true greatness. You will stay stuck in your small borders and small minds. An ant in the world always being stamped on.

When project Pakistan is completed it will be the first Democratic multi-ethnic Islamic state in the world.

Fata has so much potential and people there have so much potential to do brilliant things, its time they joined us in our quest to secure a country which has given a community of people the protection it needs. For centuries Pakistanis have been violated from east and west with no army or will to stop it.
 
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