Refugee women are being sexually abused at the EU border. Where is the outrage?

[Desert Fox]

and are they still there or did they get their *** whooped and removed?

Now they are in every western capital, and your liberals and socialists are coddling them.

 

[ptldM3]

You are here being the defender of Europeans. I asked valid questions and made solid points.

And those points were???? That Europeans were lazy and that Russians are pigs? You are just an intellectual genius.

Is Pakistan as a nation asking Europe to host refugees? Clearly, we don't give a ****. You Europeans are directly importing them through your elected officials.

Eastern Europe does not want them, and a good portion of the people of western Europe don't want those refugees either. Europe sucks, the white man is evil but everyone and their mother are dying to live amongst the evil corrupt Europeans.

As a Muslim from Asia, I made the point that you Europeans should stop bothering Middle East and Muslim countries if you dislike us so much.

This is nonsense. Muslims occupied Europe for over 800 years before they were driven out. Muslims waged wars and genocides for decades in Europe and elsewhere, Muslims decided bomb the world trade centers in the 1990s and 2001.



The only major conflicts were Europeans involved themselves with Muslims countries was was in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan and some of those were brought on by Muslims (911, Iraqi aggression against Kuwait) There are 50 majority Muslim countries, most Muslims flee to Europe and the North American. There are plenty of other Muslim countries that refugees can go to where there is no war or Europeans.

It's not like my country is trying meddle in European affairs. But some how you apes are always involved in our countries.

Again, there are 50 majority Muslim Countries. With Europeans getting involved with only 3 of those countries in any major capacity and that is because it apes decided to kill thousands of innocent people on 911.


You were still smearing poop on your face when Europeans were flying aircraft and building high rises and we are the "apes".

I called you a pig for posting that picture of what you think Islamic nations look like compared to a supposed European city with skyscrapers.

You called me a pig because you're an uneducated fool with no manners. I also never said that the picture of the slum I posted represented Islamic countries, it represented where a lot of refugees came from. That high rise i posted was also from London which is in Western Europe. I'm not debating the best and brightest on here.

Let's be honest, most of Europe is old and decrepit,

Let's be honest, you're not the brightest guy.

but you wanted to be intellectually dishonest by citing them as examples. It's not like I haven't seen pictures of Russia before. Your infrastructure especially regarding roads and traffic are as bad as the oldest cities of Pakistan.

We have building in Russia that are older then Pakistan and they are in better conditions then some of your newer buildings:

Traffic is not even comparable either:


Bad traffic in Moscow:

Bad traffic in Pakistan:

Regarding your women being prostitues, it's true. Slavic women have the highest frequency in working in pornography and are seen as a commodity in the entire world. Even in US, you people sell your women as mail order brides. Americans buy them and use them for fun until they can get a green card or permanent residence. I'm not saying there are no Pakistani prostitues, but when have you seen one in Moscow? In Karachi there are tons of Slavic prostitues, and we are a third world backwards Islamic nation. Right?





Reason for your women behaving like this is because Europeans have no principles, honor, or religion.

Teach us your wise principles of "honor" honor killings, beheadings and show us how to beat wives, bribe everyone, and believe in fairytales, we need wisdom from uneducated peasants driving mopeds.

Most of you are drunks that don't work,

Compare this to the Middle East and Africa. Who doesn't work?

but the second you see an immigrant with a job you get frustrated. Putin is pushing orthodox Christians to behave like Muslims by advocating no drinking and smoking because majority of your populations are losers. You behave like animals, so what can you teach your daughters?

Please....many Muslims in the west smoke, drink, party and do drugs some even do it in their home countries too, and I do know many Muslims.

I know Muslims that drink and smoke in fact my Muslim friends invited me to dinner and he will have alcohol even though I don't drink---he does. And an educational lesson, Christianity is thousands of years older then Islam and drunkenness is a sin or haram in your worlds.

And yes Russians are losers, how can we compete with the the likes of Southeast Asians and arabs, and North Africans.

For every 1 Muslim girl that is a whore there are 500 European girls, because you people teach nothing to your children. Your society is weak. You people are so fucking stupid that you think Muslims are your enemies, when in reality the reason for your social decay is the lack of morals and work ethic you have. And I am speaking generally, because I'm sure there are some very good European people, but majority is trash. Let's be honest.

Spare everyone the BS, I have met girls from Southeast Asia and the Middle East. In fact my girlfriend is from the region. If the girl is alone without a male they flirt just as much as white girls and are just as prone to cheat if not more so. My girlfriend knew plenty of Muslim girls that told their husbands they were virgins but in fact have been with many different men, many times it was a one time thing. I know you will refuse to believe it because you are gullible to your own propaganda.





But again, why is this important? You seem to have women and sex on your mind but try to lecture everyone else.


And thank you for the moral lessons. If I want to know how to beat women, commit mass groping, become a suicide bomber, own slaves, etc I know where to go.

 

[prashantazazel]

The veil culture is of a recent time. I will say 10 to 12 years. Before that there was not much of it. Here's what Jamal Abdul Nasser had to say about it. Please note what a member of the audience had to say about the mullah whom Nasser is mentioning.

Yeah. A great leader indeed. No one deserves to live under oppression.

There is an important road in Delhi to honour his name.

 

[Jlaw]

During the first two weeks of August, when most people in Western Europe were enjoying their summer holidays, volunteers from No Name Kitchen, a group helping migrants in Bosnia,recorded 17 cases of violence against people on the move at the country's border with Croatia. (The UNHCR recently reported that their partners in Bosnia and Serbia recorded over 700 allegations of violence at the borders of Croatia since the beginning of this year.)

In at least five of the 17 cases recorded by No Name Kitchen, the victims were vulnerable women who were trying to reach safety in the European Union. Volunteers said these women were treated brutally by the authorities and subjected to sexual violence, racism and Islamophobia.

Marva, from Afghanistan, told them the group she was travelling with was stopped by police after they crossed the Slovenian border. She said the officers ordered the women in the group to remove their niqabs. When she refused to do so and started to cry, a policeman forcefully removed the garment and threw it on the floor. "Here is not Afghanistan, here is Slovenia," the policeman allegedly told her. "Here is no Islam."

Fatima, from Iran, had a similar experience, but in Croatia. Her husband and daughter were beaten up by police officers. She was held at gun point and they were all ordered to walk back to Bosnia. She said she was scared to death. She thought they were going to kill her and her family.

Several victims said officers inappropriately touched their bodies, including their breasts and genitals, during these violent encounters. They said the abuse happened in front of their children and husbands. The abusers were always in uniform.

Police violence and brutality is nothing new at the borders of European Union. Hungarian, Romanian, Bulgarian and Greek police officers have long been resorting to violence in order to keep Fortress Europe "safe". Croatian police joined in this brutality last year, and now even Slovenian police is abusing people on the move at their borders.

As always, this violence is affecting the women the most. They are not only violently prevented from finding safety and security in Europe, but also subjected to sexual violence. And their abusers act with impunity.

No one in Brussels, or in any other European capital, has punished or even condemned these officers for their treatment of women at Europe's borders - not even in countries led by women or where leftist, progressive parties are in power.

In the last two years, the #MeToo movement encouraged the world to have a conversation about sexual harassment and condemn men who use their positions of power to abuse women. However, the abuse women (as well as men and children) experience at the hands of border officials at the gates of Europe was never included in this conversation.

European media also contributed to this problem by failing to give a voice to these victims.

On New Year's Eve 2015 many local women reported being robbed and assaulted inCologne, Germany and authorities said most of the accused were North African, migrant men. The media was quick to sensationalise the issue and create a narrative which implied European women are in need of urgent protection from brown, Muslim, migrant men. Authorities were quick to take action.

However, now that migrant women are the victims, the media is largely silent, and the same EU officials urging action on the Cologne attacks are looking the other way.

The violence at the borders of the EU is a message to all migrants - and everyone who is not a citizen of Fortress Europe - that they are not welcome, not even when they are running from wars, persecution, authoritarian regimes, poverty or the devastating effects of climate change. It doesn't matter that Europe is responsible for many ills that are forcing these people to leave their homes and seek safety in foreign lands.

:iberals in the EU are still refusing to acknowledge this loud and clear message sent out by their official representatives. They congratulate themselves on their "humane treatment" of migrants, and refuse to acknowledge the human rights abuses taking place at their doorstep. They hypocritically condemn the US administration for separating families trying to cross US borders, but talk nothing of the abuse of migrants at Europe's borders.

Is the violence migrants endure in Europe any more acceptable than what happens in Trump's America? In "liberal", "progressive" Europe human beings are being physically and sexually abused at borders, threatened and kept in camps indefinitely. Children are often left alone, unprotected, and deprived of an education and a future.

What the EU border police is doing to vulnerable women, men and children is a crime and it cannot go unpunished.

If Europe does not act now, it will soon become a place where violence against "the other" is acceptable. This has happened many times before in recent history, and humanity at large suffered its consequences. Europe should learn from its past mistakes, and this time make sure it's on the right side of history.

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/metoo-fortress-europe-borders-180905074913780.html

Nothing wrong for asking women to remove the hijab. If they don't comply the authorities have the bright to forceably remove it.

 

[zectech]

I have only one question - why all those people so desperate to move to Europe? If you are not welcome there - stay at home or move to your co-belivers lands.

Because Libya was bombed, Syria was bombed, Iraq was bombed, Afghanistan was bombed. Because of the CIA Arab Spring. Because of European colonialism.

When the West turns mideast cities into Aleppo, people want to get out to someplace not on the list of being bombed. European cities are not being bombed.

Stop the zionist wars, and most of the migrants will stay home.

Even Turkey is taking refugees, and they having an economic war against them because Erdogan called Netanyahu a terrorist.

The arabs are not going to welcome 50 million migrants who they can't handle, they would double and triple and quadruple the populations of those small states.

Who wants to move to Egypt where the CIA installed their own zionist puppet dictactor... who murders those who demand a return to democratically elected Morsi.

The zionist West is trying to ruin the middle east for zionism and corporations, any wonder why they flee to Europe.

The sub-Saharan Africans are opportunists seeing a path in the chaos to Europe.

 

[padamchen]

Lethal master race???????

The british had an empire then spanned the world

The Arabs conquered from southern France to south east Asia

What have the Germans or Japs conquered in comparison


This type of dumb fcuk slave mentality is too prevalent amongst indians, stupid if nothing else



Yet you are close to worthless as a state and people amazing isnt it

Yes a Pakistani expat in British little Pakistan is the best judge.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

@Georg @ptldM3 are European Fascists.

No use debating them.

 

[Georg]

Now they are in every western capital, and your liberals and socialists are coddling them.

we once got rid of people we did not like.... wanna force us to do it again?

@Georg @ptldM3 are European Fascists.

No use debating them.

I am not a fascist u noob I am just agains stupid fail information and this forum is spread with tonns of it...

 

[zectech]

@Georg @ptldM3 are European Fascists.

No use debating them.

The AfD is not fascist, it is neo-nazis. They skip fascism and go straight to hating minorities.

 

[Desert Fox]

we once got rid of people we did not like.... wanna force us to do it again?

Those were different times when you had a faith that motivated you beyond this worldly life. Today you live for this world.

1400 White British girls get raped and abused by pedophiles in Rotherham and no one does a thing because everyone is too afraid to lose their material comfort and worldly pleasures. Everyone is afraid to be called a Nazi and racist which is really pathetic that mere words and labels scare people.

 

[Falcon29]

There are many things to be outraged over in the world. This is an opinion article and I'm not sure what the motive is. Any such acts are reprehensible, and if certain countries don't allow refugees there is nothing that can be done. Many refugees are normal people, but some of them are too aggressive to try getting residency over there. However, any one who suggests there is religious motive or angle to such things is a troll or bigot.

Also can't believe how many generalizations made towards enormous groups of people by numerous members here. You guys are on the internet and need to calm down. Usually most of you have real life personal frustrations which you relieve on political forums.

Understand.
In that case - no offense, but I will shoot you and all coming with you. Because you are not coming to steal my goods. You coming to live in my house, make sex with my woman and eat my food.

@WebMaster @waz

This person is mentally not all there and I think he needs his think tank status stripped. Just look at his last several months of posts. He's trying to twist everything to make it a 'us vs. them' narrative which should not be promoted here.

 

[Numerous]

He is an undercover Hindu that spouts nonsense and is considered a kanjar on this forum. Good luck trying to talk to him.

Unfortunately he has been corrupted by communism. We have some "Muslims" like him in the UK who attack Muslim women and Islamic dress too, they're hated by the Muslim community.