Recent spate of Terrorist attacks in Pakistan post Pathankot Attack

[v9s]

and you withdraw your army from FATA and give them full sharia law and TTP wont attack.

/wahhabi logic

Oh but we did in 2009 - by the people's choice. They didn't behave. You haven't given what the overwhelming majority of Kashmiris want - an independent state.

 

[T-72M1]

Oh but we did in 2009 - by the people's choice. They didn't behave. You haven't given what the overwhelming majority of Kashmiris want - an independent state.

which is why they have to be dealt with harshly.

The Pathankot attackers were hardened jihadists from Bhawalpur, Pak Punjab, not locals from Indian administered Kashmir. When locals carry out small scale attacks in the valley and are killed, it's public news and the bodies are handed over to the families and there are funerals and everyone knows.

anyway, an Independent Kashmir isn't feasible, converting the loc to an international border is the only real solution, but that's been debated to death here a trillion times, not right now.

 

[v9s]

The Pathankot attackers were hardened jihadists from Bhawalpur, Pak Punjab, not locals from Indian administered Kashmir.

No they weren't. That's what your media conjured. Your govt/army found no evidence of any illegal crossing over - this was in the news a day back or two.

 

[T-72M1]

No they weren't. That's what your media conjured. Your govt/army found no evidence of any illegal crossing over - this was in the news a day back or two.

it's a porus border in places, they probably slipped through the drug smugglers' route, drugs are a huge issue in our Punjab, they come from AF>Pak to India and have established human networks as well as well mapped routes, let's face it, barring a west bank like wall, it's impossible to check every goat (or human) crossing between the borders, there are so many cases of villagers wandering off, a lot of them get resolved peacefully when the authorities discover these people in the wrong country mistakenly.

the point is, they were not Kashmiri, not from India anyway, violence in the valley has seen an upsurge this past year, but it's still very low intensity and every time a valley local gets killed it makes news, there are big funerals, their bodies are identified and handed over to the families.

Pathankot guys were from Punjab in Pakistan, or north Punjab in Pakistan, the area you like to refer to as "azad" Kashmir.

 

[Bratva]

Yes. No terrorist group so designated by UNSC finds shelter in India. Prove it or shut up.

Pakistan OTOH hosts multiple terrorist groups and individuals so designated by the UNSC.

What to prove? That you are not hosting Baloch terrorist group spokesperson in delhi or mumbai ?

So going by your magnificent logic, We can provide support to maoists, ULFA and other half dozen terrorists groups in India which are not designated by UNSC.

 

[v9s]

it's a porus border in places, they probably slipped through the drug smugglers' route, drugs are a huge issue in our Punjab, they come from AF>Pak to India and have established human networks as well as well mapped routes, let's face it, barring a west bank like wall, it's impossible to check every goat (or human) crossing between the borders, there are so many cases of villagers wandering off, a lot of them get resolved peacefully when the authorities discover these people in the wrong country mistakenly.

the point is, they were not Kashmiri, not from India anyway, violence in the valley has seen an upsurge this past year, but it's still very low intensity and every time a valley local gets killed it makes news, there are big funerals, their bodies are identified and handed over to the families.

Pathankot guys were from Punjab in Pakistan, or north Punjab in Pakistan, the area you like to refer to as "azad" Kashmir.

Once again, there is no definitive evidence that they were from Pakistan. They have links to an organization that has presence in Pakistan - that's all that has been proved.

 

[pakdefender]

This will not end well for afghanistan

 

[Atlanticore]

Pakistan have longest border with a country which has been invaded by 32 countries for harbouring and nourishing Terrorists (Afghanistan) , but the worst thing is this border is named as Gate of Friendship from where almost 50,000 Namak Haraam Afghanies come From a War Torn country into Pakistan for Medical care without any visa.
We also host 5 Million citizens of a country who burn our Flag and chants death slogans for our country.
But now Pakistan really need to seal the Pak-Afghan Border.
Only the following steps can reduce the chances of cross border terrorism.
1):. Affective Electric Fence and 6 Feet wide ditch on the whole Afghan Border.
2):. 3 layered mines infront of Fence.
3):. UAV and Gasht Party surveillance with affective SOS warning capability.
4):. Concrete Bunkers with Roof Opies.
Durrand line isn't a Disputed border its the International border which was recognized by Rulers of Afghanistan under British-Afghan border control treaty, so there is nothing to debate on it. I understand that money can be the problem but we have to invest more to secure our borders because this Border is causing alot of troubles for the Economic and Security situation of our Country. No country should have a open border with such Hostile neighbour as Afghanistan.

 

[wadi79]

Please look back to the last week. A 15 year old boy chopped off his own hand following a mistake, since it concerned faith. Did India train the mullah who instigated it? Did India instigate the crowd? Did India force the boy to cut off his hand? No, No and No. Now just ask yourself this question - if someone can be brainwashed into chopping off his own hand, how difficult is to convince such a person to blow himself up in a school, a place of worship or a polio vaccination centre?

As long as Pakistanis try to blame a global conspiracy of Hindu Zionists and a group of CIA/Raw/Mossad spooks for their problems, there can't be a solution.

 

[kasper95]

Please look back to the last week. A 15 year old boy chopped off his own hand following a mistake, since it concerned faith. Did India train the mullah who instigated it? Did India instigate the crowd? Did India force the boy to cut off his hand? No, No and No. Now just ask yourself this question - if someone can be brainwashed into chopping off his own hand, how difficult is to convince such a person to blow himself up in a school, a place of worship or a polio vaccination centre?

As long as Pakistanis try to blame a global conspiracy of Hindu Zionists and a group of CIA/Raw/Mossad spooks for their problems, there can't be a solution.

you nailed it .

 

[IceCold]

As long as Pakistanis try to blame a global conspiracy of Hindu Zionists and a group of CIA/Raw/Mossad spooks for their problems, there can't be a solution.

Save it. Its getting old, really old. If anything someone needs to stop is for Indians to stop spouting the same nonsense over and over again. For us its always conspiracy and for you its always ISI.

 

[curious]

Its interesting to note the timing of this latest spate of attacks right when Pakistan was engaged in efforts to mediate between Iran and Saudi Arab which both countries welcomed.
If the tensions were allowed to escalate it could lead not only to a mutually destructive, open conflict between these two powers and their allies,plunging the middle east to even more chaos and anarchy, but also the sectarian strife(Shia, Sunni) that would surely result from such a confrontation would spread throughout the middle east and beyond.
This would lead to civil war like situation in countries with significant populations of both sects (e.g: Pakistan) which would utterly devastate the social,political and economic fabric of the society.
Pakistan's diplomatic efforts might have diffused a possible Sunni-Shia civil war in this region and beyond,irking some "powers that be" which are none too pleased and wanted to send a "message" that Pakistan should know its place instead of meddling in the plans of its superiors.

 

[deckingraj]

Dude... So are Pakistani Consulates... right next to Indian Consulates...

Embassy of Pakistan, Kabul
Consulates : Herat


Location of consulates has nothing to do with recent spate of Attacks in Pakistan... its a backlash of Operation Zarbe Azb and Pakistan led Afghan Peace Talks... I am not denying Involvement of Indian Intelligence agencies in this... I would stop paying my taxes if RAW is not doing anything.. Top Indian and Pakistani leadership has to take a decision that they will not mess around with each other.. that's the only way this can be stopped.

Exactly my point....

 

[livingdead]

there were many attacks before the statements and many after. Besides it takes time to plan an attack if it is by an intelligence agency. I doubt they will attack random people, most likely they will attack strategic installations.
you just listed a few terror incidents in pakistan and said all due to Indians. Most likely its just another day in pakistan.

 

[Kaniska]

Pakistan must need to take this matter up with important capitals of world. Indian involvement in Pakistan still exist. Completely agree with the OP that Strict border management is required on Pak-Afghan Border.

I am worried that how CPEC will be safe guarded if thousands of people from Afghanistan cross Pakistani border daily unchecked. This is just horrific and terrible situation.

Pakistan is suffering due to lack of lobbying/diplomacy. India covers up all its terrorism by its economic, media and diplomatic clout. So no one pin points India. It also uses Terrorism propaganda against Pakistan to hide what she herself is doing in Pakistan. Just look what India did with Nepal (blockade of supplies), heck not a single world power noticed it. We need to look what makes India so bold and confident that they make such aggressive and bold moves against their all neighbors except China. We never see any Indian Gov't going aggressive against China or threating them, Why? Do we have an answer?

We Pakistanis lack far behind Indians in creating perception/mind game. In today's politics, you don't call your enemies as your foes, you call them terrorists. So, that you can prepare whole world whats coming next if bad guys(your enemy) do something. Pakistan must need to propagate its point of view to every channel available, not leaving a single opportunity for Indian fantasy. We need to read/prepare/advance/adopt Psychological warfare because it is being imposed on us. Chinese can help us out though.

Les read The Art of War Book by J. H. Huang and Sun Tzu........

Guys do you really think that by providing facts about Indian involvement to major power then they will do something t o India?? If you really beleive in this theory, then you guys are in wonderland...Those powers including your friend China will not say anything to India unless and otherwise, they are not directly impacted or they do not get any benifit of Indian economy...

Let us assume for a moment that India has done that...then what next, you will send another batch of terrorist to India like Pathankot and the story will go on...So now it depends on when do Pakistan realize that using terrosim as a tool is a obsolete idea to fight with India....Because, the same thing will be paid back to Pakistan ...While India has the land mass and economy to sustain such type of incidents Pakistan does not have the capacity to do...If simillar kind of incidents in a big way in Karachi and Lahore, things will go back to your 2009-2012 days where terrorism in Pakistan was at the peak...