Recent Sino-Indian border conflict

[Gurjot.S]

Do you recall India’s terrain advantage in 1962 ?

1962 was the mistake of indian govt. 10000 soldiers left by the govt to fight against chinese.

China-india border is full of passes and mountains. There are few areas where india has disadvantage and it is becos of lack of infrastructure there. China will never ever attack near siliguri corridor, it will be a 1 sided way for chinese soldiers. They may open another front near arunachal.

 

[Photon]

Do you recall India’s terrain advantage in 1962 ?

Because you are an ignorant Chinese tween ,who knows little about history.
That area did not see any action in 62.

 

[newb3e]

Its good delusional supa powa dont accept reality when the war breaks down they wont be firing bullets rather they would be thumping chest!

 

[Photon]

Go study the geography you delusional idiot. In 1962, the Indians also claimed that they had a geographical advantage and that the Chinese would never attack. And did I even say they fought over this area in 1962??? Let me reiterate, if the Indians had such an enviable geographical position, then why are they so afraid of the PLA cutting off the Chicken neck? After all, the Indian side has 20 times more troops than their Chinese counterparts ...


If you don't think road construction in the Himalays under wintery conditions is dangerous, then you are more delusional than I think. I hope that Indian civil and logistical engineers aren't as ignorant as you are. Otherwise, I fear the worst for India should war break out. Surely they know better than constructing roads under such precarious conditions as should any sensible military??? The other Chinese posters speak of new roads being constructed, which is even worse for the Indians than if the old road was extended. Hiding from reality isn't going to change the situation my friend

1) Listen kid, when you grow up, you will realize, war is a serious buisness and not just a computer game.
Just because India enjoys massive terrain advantage in Chicken neck area, does not make us invincible.
Here what's at stake, is priceless, India's only road link to 7 states.
Pakistan had massive terrain advantage in Kargil, still Indians beat them.
So off course India will protect that area with all her might, even though odds are already in our favour.

2) I just want to know, which one of you is bull$hitting(you about not being able to build that particular road due winters or CD about building other road in nearby areas(and I suspect both of you are).
Either road construction in winters in Himalayas is not feasible. So construction of all roads should have stopped in the region right? Or do the winters effect the trijuction road differently, that rest of the roads in the region.

Its good delusional supa powa dont accept reality when the war breaks down they wont be firing bullets rather they would be thumping chest!

Perhaps you are right. Well we did see Chinese thump their chest non stop and little else, while Indian soldiers squat in their country for two whole months.

 

[Figaro]

1) Listen kid, when you grow up, you will realize, war is a serious buisness and not just a computer game.
Just because India enjoys massive terrain advantage in Chicken neck area, does not make us invincible.
Here what's at stake, is priceless, India's only road link to 7 states.
Pakistan had massive terrain advantage in Kargil, still Indians beat them.
So off course India will protect that area with all her might, even though odds are already in our favour.

2) I just want to know, which one of you is bull$hitting(you about not being able to build that particular road due winters or CD about building other road in nearby areas(and I suspect both of you are).
Either road construction in winters in Himalayas is not feasible. So construction of all roads should have stopped in the region right? Or do the winters effect the trijuction road differently, that rest of the roads in the region.

And here we witness a typical Indian troll who will resort to personal attacks when he knows the argument is lost. Instead of sprouting nonsense which I will not waste time responding to, will you actually provide me evidence of this ficticious Indian terrain advantage??? You claim such thing exists, now back it up with evidence. Otherwise, your points are null and dont mean anything. And your second point is so nonsensical that I won't even bother responding to. And you were too stupid to realize that the previous poster's "supa powa" post was referring to your precious India, not China . If war breaks out again, will Indian soldiers run away or abandon the frontline to surrender just like they did in 1962?

 

[KapitaanAli]

It's amazing how the Chinese are proud about pitting 80000 well-armed men against 10000 men chilling out in tents with bolt action rifles and still losing half as men as the enemy.

Green Arunachal for dry Aksai.

 

[Photon]

And here we witness a typical Indian troll who will resort to personal attacks when he knows the argument is lost. Instead of sprouting nonsense which I will not waste time responding to, will you actually provide me evidence of this ficticious Indian terrain advantage??? You claim such thing exists, now back it up with evidence. Otherwise, your points are null and dont mean anything. And your second point is so nonsensical that I won't even bother responding to. And you were too stupid to realize that the previous poster's "supa powa" post was referring to your precious India, not China . If war breaks out again, will Indian soldiers run away or abandon the frontline to surrender just like they did in 1962?

Carry on kid, you are not worth my time.

 

[Figaro]

It's amazing how the Chinese are proud about pitting 80000 well-armed men against 10000 men chilling out in tents with bolt action rifles and still losing half as men as the enemy.

Green Arunachal for dry Aksai.

Why does it matter that the Chinese outnumbered India and beat them to a pulp? China just came out of a huge famine and it's military was pretty poorly equipped. What a pathetic excuse for losing a war. India's Arunachal might have greenery but Aksai Chin is no less important strategically, giving China part of Kashmir. Remember how the Red Army in WWII. Sure they sustained many times the casualties of the Germans and suffered greatly, but they still destroyed Nazi Germany.

Carry on kid, you are not worth my time.

Says the troll who can't back up his superfluous claims ...

 

[Photon]

Why does it matter that the Chinese outnumbered India and beat them to a pulp? China just came out of a huge famine and it's military was pretty poorly equipped. What a pathetic excuse for losing a war? India's Arunachal might have greenery but Aksai Chin is no less important strategically. Remember how the Red Army in WWII. They completely crushed the Wehrmacht despite sustaining many times the casualties.


Says the troll who can't back up his superfluous claims ...

The reason, I say, you are not worth my time, because a knowledgeable person, who knew about the geography of trijunction region, or even the history of 1967 indo- china clash, would not be asking such questions.
You are just a Chinese kid, and who just recently got to know about existence of a tri junction area, after the flare up.

More than that, you could not understand the obvious sarcasm in my reply to 'newb3e' cast serious doubts about your intelligence.

 

[randomradio]

China had militarized the disputed area. They just haven’t constructed the exact road. But they had been building bunkers and other roads in the disputed area. Even India agree that China has militarized the disputed zone.

Again, the only thing left is to build that exact road. And with Chinese military occupying the area, there is no way Indians troops will enter without risking war.

The Chinese are nowhere on the disputed area. If they were, we would have walked in too.

LOL your own media is the one who found the satellite images, of Chinese road construction all over Donglang in the past few months.

So why did India unilaterally retreat, and backstab Bhutan so quickly?

Are you going to backstab Bhutan YET AGAIN by claiming that Donglang is now Chinese territory?

You have built nothing in the disputed area. India has not allowed you to.

No, NDTV or any other Indian media never claimed, China has built the road it started out to build, who's construction Indian army stopped, which cause all the problems to begin with. You need to check your facts.

So I ask you once again, do you have proof, that you have built or ever restarted the road, who's construction India stopped?

And if not, then why not ?

These guys are ignorant about what's happening. They have been fed too much propaganda from their side.

 

[Areesh]

New visuals show PLA deployment is close to last year’s face-off point and hasn’t thinned down as Indian Army chief Gen. Rawat claimed last week.

New Delhi: Almost five months after India and China agreed to end their tense military face-off in the Himalayan region of Doklam, Beijing has almost completely taken control of the northern side of the disputed plateau, latest satellite images accessed by ThePrint show.

The new images show concrete posts, seven helipads, new trenches and several dozen armoured vehicles close to the point where the Indian Army and the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) troops were locked in a 72-day confrontation last year.

The discovery comes days after Army chief General Bipin Rawat said that China continues to have troops in North Doklam but also added that the deployment had thinned down recently.

However, new satellite imagery accessed by ThePrint from 10 December 2017 shows that the Chinese side is now well entrenched in the area, with heavy road building machinery still present close to the stand-off point.

The face-off was triggered last June after Indian troops prevented Chinese workers backed by the PLA from completing a road that would have given them fast access to the south Doklam area. The Doklam plateau is contested between China and Bhutan, with India also having a strategic interest in keeping the area demilitarised.

These are first images that show the extent of the Chinese deployment at Doklam – and indicate a likely permanent PLA deployment, retaining the capability to construct the contested road at short notice.

Troop strength

The PLA has occupied almost every nook and corner, if not every inch, of the northern side of the plateau. Google Earth imagery clearly shows a large number of troops and equipment in semi-permanent structures under camouflage.

There is at least one complete mechanised regiment of possibly ZBL-09 IFVs or infantry fighting vehicles. There is also a strong possibility of another mechanised regiment under camouflage nets.

Two major parking areas have been observed for tank transporters of smaller size, suggesting their use for mechanised vehicle transport. There are, in total, two regiments’ worth of tank transporters on the Doklam plateau.

There are more than a hundred large troop/equipment-carrying vehicles, or what the military calls ‘B-vehicles’.

At least four large bulldozers and four tippers have also been observed. This indicates a clear intention of pursuing the construction of the road beyond the contested point.

A large number of troops seem to have been kept in tents under very good camouflage, but certainly not good enough for satellite imagery not to spot them.

The observation tower

There is a very tall observation tower, at least two storeys high, constructed with cement concrete less than 10 metres from the most forward trench occupied by the Indian Army.

The elevation profile of this tower suggests that it can observe the entire Gnathang Valley from Kupup to Zuluk. The entire movement of the Indian Army beyond Kupup can also be very clearly observed by the PLA.

New posts

A large number of fighting posts have been created on almost every hillock on North Doklam plateau. These posts consist of double-layered communication trenches prepared for all round defence.

Numerous areas have been dug out, possibly to accommodate troops under camouflage at a later date. One of the dug-out areas is quite large, suggesting that the PLA will construct an extremely tall observation tower very soon.

Helipads

At least seven new helipads have been constructed with permanent cemented round bases. The diameter of the helipads is 25 metres, suggesting that the largest helicopters in the PLA inventory will be able to land here.

Colonel Vinayak Bhat (retd) is a Military Intelligence veteran of the Indian Army with vast experience of satellite imagery analysis. He has worked as a Chinese interpreter and is a specialist on PLA and Pakistan’s armed forces. He tweets @rajfortyseven


https://theprint.in/2018/01/17/new-trouble-for-india-as-china-fully-occupies-doklam/

 

[Beast]

I hope the Chinese can move those 4 four large bulldozers cross the point where the Indians said stop.
Lol ,please guys don't waste my time by quoting me until as I said at least the 4 four large bulldozers cross the point .untill then they can make 100 km road with flyovers and what not around the point until the point is crossed

Lol, Indian removed the bullbozer after we threaten to beat them down. So what bullbozer you are talking about? It turn out it’s PLA IFV that needs to remove if Indian army still has any guts left.

This report is not what Indian report. They brag about China lacking balls to pursue building roads to doklam. So what are Indian going to say? Not only Chinese continue with road building but we fortify and militarized the whole doklam. China will take 1962 to a new level.

 

[KapitaanAli]

India and China are free to do what they want in their territories.
India in Arunachal and China in Chumbi outside Doklam.

 

[Pangu]

India and China are free to do what they want in their territories.
India in Arunachal and China in Chumbi outside Doklam.

Outside or inside?

 

[Han Patriot]

Bro,in case if you don't understand english,I will repeat what I said in the previous post ,quote me when you start the road construction where Indians stopped you
Until then

LOL, so instead of protesting us occupying the whole plateau, you are happy we haven't build a 1.5km road to Gyomochen? Ego prevents you from seeing the strategic side of things. The win win situation was occupation in return of road postponement, you are happy it seems, we are happy too. Now we can aim the whole Silguri corridot with the highest elevated flat piece of land there. Didn't you said we retreated a few months ago? You were the ones who retreated after being threatened with WAR. Bhutan was the biggest loser territoriality, while India lost strategically, the very same plateau you were trying to prevent us from occupying is now occupied.

Outside or inside?

The new tower is just next to Doka La, . Essentially, we have occupied the whole plateau, India gave us that reason to occupy it. . Such geniuses! Didn't they say no construction in Doklam, we freaking build everywhere in the plateau, they still didn't cross that border.. I predicted this a few months ago, but all those Indians were happily saying we retreated back.