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Ready to assist India in developing civil nuclear energy, says China

Instead of the reactors then self what about the raw fuel instead. There is always a need in India for 1000-1500 Tons per year of nuclear fuel, so why not take some from China?

If China can provide it cheaply why not....its a raw input material. Uranium prices are going down significantly so let all the suppliers compete in this. India benefits. But I personally doubt China can compete with the likes of Canada and Australia (and also Namibia and Russia) on this given their huge mining operations of Uranium compared to China (which uses most of what it manages to produce internally and imports a pretty large shortfall).

Its the value added items in nuclear industry that will be closed to China till they let us in the NSG.
 
This has to be a very interesting development happening, if true. Modi government has offered a slice of Indian civil nuclear market pie to China, provided they agree on supporting India's NSG membership, a typical Gujju that he is, and now China offering something on these lines seems to suggest the behind the scene discussions are after all not faltering.
 
I don't think India is after Chinese nuclear technology. India has already got a waiver under 123 agreement. What India wants is membership in NSG so has to become official nuclear power from being de facto nuclear power

Instead of the reactors then self what about the raw fuel instead. There is always a need in India for 1000-1500 Tons per year of nuclear fuel, so why not take some from China?

I guess, India will be happy to take the raw fuel deal than nuclear technology deal because India has already access to best of nuclear technology from US and Europe through nuclear waver.
 
And Westinghouse don't have anything to do with it?

Doesn't matter. Westing house is losing the race with China.
Chinese PWR are making waves every where, and china is getting orders of these chinese pwr plants from Africa Asia and Europe.
 

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NEW DELHI: China is ready to assist India in developing civil nuclear energy declared Chinese Deputy Ambassador to India Liu Jinsong while speaking at a closed door meet of the National Defence College less than 48 hours after Foreign Minister Sushma Swaraj blamed Beijing for blocking DELHI's membership in the coveted Nuclear Suppliers Group.

Less than a month after Beijing blocked India's membership in NSG Liu, in an attempt to build confidence, stated, "Chinese enterprises, provinces and cities are actively participating in development programs like "Make in India", "Smart Cities", "Skill India" and "Swachh Bharat", and we are ready to assist India in developing civil nuclear energy." The lecture titled -- 'China's Security and Diplomatic Doctrine In a Globalised Era' - was delivered at NDC on Thursday within a day of Swaraj's remarks in Parliament on China's obstructionist role in NSG.

The statement by the Chinese diplomat however is not any indication whether China will alter its position at the extraordinary meeting of NSG in November in Vienna that will discuss India's membership.

Beijing had earlier put forward civil nuclear cooperation proposal in 2014 when President Xi Jinping visited India but the idea did not make headway. It is understood that Delhi is not confident of the quality of China's nuclear technology which has been adopted from advanced Western countries.

"I am saying it today on the floor of the house that China introduced procedural hurdles, the main being on whether a non-NPT state can have NSG status... It is true that this was the reason for the non-decision on India's application," Swaraj said in the Lok Sabha on Wednesday. She was replying to a question raised by Sugata Bose of the TMC.

New Delhi had till then not named China and had maintained that a "single country" had blocked its bid to become a member of the NSG at its Seoul meeting. Swaraj however, said that it did not mean that the NSG doors were closed to India forever and added that the government is engaging with China to iron out differences.

Trying to reach out to the audience that comprised top military officials Liu also focused on the some of strategic issues. "...China do not play other countries against each, nor do we permit other countries to play the China card," claimed the top diplomat without any reference to Pakistan. In reality though Islamabad has more often than not played China card against India. Nepal too has played the China card from time to time vis-a-vis Delhi.

Liu in fact claimed that China has never thought of containing or balancing India, and there is no such thing as the "Pearl String Strategy" whatsoever. "Nor does China believe that India will allow itself to be used as a chess piece to contain China," he suggested without any direct reference to growing Indo-US strategic ties. Some Chinese commentators have claimed that US is wooing India to hedge Chinese ambitions in the region.

Referring to the recent Hague verdict that has dismissed China's historical claims in South China Sea region Liu tried to assuage Delhi's concerns. "The freedom of navigation and overflight and other rights enjoyed by India in the South China Sea have will be fully guaranteed, both now and in future." He in fact went to claim that India is not a threat to China but rather a strategic partner.

Seeking India's endorsement for 'One Belt One Road' strategy, Liu sought expansion of trade and investment partnership. "Our cooperation in both hardware and software and the interplay of the dragon and the elephant has changed the world and will continue to do so."



What china can offer tht india does not have? nothing!

any example anyone?

Doesn't matter. Westing house is losing the race with China.
Chinese PWR are making waves every where, and china is getting orders of these chinese pwr plants from Africa Asia and Europe.


which reactor and sold where?
 
Doesn't matter. Westing house is losing the race with China.
Chinese PWR are making waves every where, and china is getting orders of these chinese pwr plants from Africa Asia and Europe.

The point is, most Chinese reactors presently under construction are either relat Areva/ Westinghouse designs, with these companies retaining full or partial or full IPRs to the design. The CPR1000 is derivative of French design, while AP1000 is fully Westinghouse design. So it is not as if it's all Chinese design.
 
Doesn't matter. Westing house is losing the race with China.
Chinese PWR are making waves every where, and china is getting orders of these chinese pwr plants from Africa Asia and Europe.
most of the chinese reaactor's patent is from US or France
 
This Modi Government means BUSINESS and will not back down on NSG membership

China only understands BUSINESS and profit.

Therefore IF China wants BUSINESS as usual then it has no choice but to yield to Indian wishes.:P

I agree with it...But the only caveat is that is China is good in building civil nuclear reactors? What is their safety standards?
 
I agree with it...But the only caveat is that is China is good in building civil nuclear reactors? What is their safety standards?
India wants NSG membership not Chinese nuclear reactors.

IF China can promise 46 Billion Dollars investments in Pakistan to acquire strategic passage to Arabian Sea then there is no harm in signing MoU's to buy Chinese reactors to get NSG membership.

Well promises are meant to be broken !!!
 
India wants NSG membership not Chinese nuclear reactors.

IF China can promise 46 Billion Dollars investments in Pakistan to acquire strategic passage to Arabian Sea then there is no harm in signing MoU's to buy Chinese reactors to get NSG membership.

Well promises are meant to be broken !!!


There were very very bad feedback for chinese cmponents used in Russian nuclear reactor. Who will guarantee a whole chinese reactor?
 
it is like buying huawei routers because they can be cheaper and using them in government and defence applications - will be plain dumb and stupid to let china have any involvement in anything other than consumer products - plastic mugs, faux crystal vases etc.

Cannot blame the chinese for offering - they want the business and they wouldn't mind the 'inside'. India should however use common sense.
 

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