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If it wasn't for the people's anger, this government would have handed Raymond Davis a long time ago. Davis is being treated as a celebrity, his armed escorts resembles a mechanized military division and his food/water supply is nothing short of royal. To sum it up, the Government is in a bit of a pickle. Hand him over and watch people loot and burn or treat him like a terrorist and get whipped by the US.

In any case, entertainment will be had by all.
 
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why do pakistan people hate us so much?

Bossy atitude.... for eg release davis or else...not cooperating etc
Interfering in our internal affairs.
Sanctioning us.
Blaming us all the times.
Do more.
Betraying us in time of need.
Discrimination on international platforms.
Supporting dictators.
Threatning us with sanctions n crap.
Stupid statements by washington.
From the most sanctioned ally to the most bullied ally..... weve seen it all........Now ppl r fed up.
 
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Interesting article from Counterpunch. I am quoting portion from the article authored by Dave Lindorff,


The Deepening Mystery of Raymond Davis and Two Slain Pakistani Motorcyclists



The mystery of American Raymond A. Davis, currently imprisoned in the custody of local police in Lahore, Pakistan and charged with the Jan. 27 murder of two young men, whom he allegedly shot eight times with pinpoint accuracy through his car windshield, is growing increasingly murky. Also growing is the anger among Pakistanis that the US is trying to spring him from a Punjab jail by claiming diplomatic immunity. On Feb. 4, there were massive demonstrations, especially in Lahore, demanding that Davis be held for trial, an indication of the level of public anger at talk of granting him immunity.

Davis (whose identity was first denied and later confirmed by the US Embassy in Islamabad), and the embassy have claimed that he was hired as an employee of a US security company called Hyperion Protective Consultants, LLC, which was said to be located at 5100 North Lane in Orlando, Florida. Business cards for Hyperion were found on Davis by arresting officers.

However CounterPunch has investigated and discovered the following information:

First, there is not and never has been any such company located at the 5100 North Lane address. It is only an empty storefront, with empty shelves along one wall and an empty counter on the opposite wall, with just a lone used Coke cup sitting on it. A leasing agency sign is on the window. A receptionist at the IB Green & Associates rental agency located in Leesburg, Florida, said that her agency, which handles the property, part of a desolate-looking strip mall of mostly empty storefronts, has never leased to a Hyperion Protective Consultants. She added, “In fact, until recently, we had for several years occupied that address ourselves.”

The Florida Secretary of State’s office, meanwhile, which requires all Florida companies, including LLSs (limited liability partnerships), to register, has no record, current or lapsed, of a Hyperion Protective Consultants, LLC
, and there is only one company with the name Hyperion registered at all in the state. It is Hyperion Communications, a company based in W. Palm Beach, that has no connection with Davis or with security-related activities.

The non-existent Hyperion Protective Consultants does have a website (Page Title), but one of the phone numbers listed doesn’t work, an 800 number produces a recorded answer offering information about how to deal with or fend off bank foreclosures, and a third number with an Orlando exchange goes to a recording giving Hyperion’s corporate name and asking the caller to leave a message. Efforts to contact anyone on that line were unsuccessful. The local phone company says there is no public listing for Hyperion Protective Consultants--a rather unusual situation for a legitimate business operation.

Pakistani journalists have been speculating that Davis is either a CIA agent or is working as a contractor for some private mercenary firm--possibly Xe, the reincarnation of Blackwater. They are not alone in their suspicions. Jeff Stein, writing in the Washington Post on January 27, suggested after interviewing Fred Burton, a veteran of the State Department’s counter-terrorism Security Service, that Davis may have been involved in intelligence activity, either as a CIA employee under embassy cover or as a contract worker at the time of the shootings. Burton, who currently works with Stratfor, an Austin, TX-based “global intelligence” firm, even speculates that the shootings may have been a “spy meeting gone awry,” and not, as US Embassy and State Department officials are claiming, a case of an attempted robbery or car-jacking.

The US claim that Davis has diplomatic immunity hinges first and foremost on whether he is actually a “functionary” of the consulate. According to Lahore police investigators, he was arrested carrying a regular US passport, which had a business visa, not a diplomatic visa. The US reportedly only later supplied a diplomatic passport carrying a diplomatic visa that had been obtained not in the US before his departure, but in Islamabad, the country’s capital.

(Note: It is not unusual, though it is not publicly advertised, for the US State Department to issue duplicate passports to certain Americans. When I was working for Business Week magazine in Hong Kong in the early 1990s, and was dispatched often into China on reporting assignments, my bureau chief advised me that I could take a letter signed by her to the US Consulate in Hong Kong and request a second passport. One would be used exclusively to enter China posing as a tourist. The other would be used for going in officially as a journalist. The reason for this subterfuge, which was supported by the State Department, was that once Chinese visa officials have spotted a Chinese “journalist” visa stamped in a passport, they would never again allow that person to enter the country without first obtaining such a visa. The problem is that a journalist visa places strict limits on a reporter’s independent travel and access to sources. As a tourist, however, the same reporter could – illegally -- travel freely and report without being accompanied by meddling foreign affairs office “handlers.”


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Dave Lindorff: The Deepening Mystery of Raymond Davis and Two Slain Pakistani Motorcyclists
 
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enemy remains enemy even we are there nighburs and a US mad dog kill our citizens with cold blood.TUM LOGO KO LAGGA NHI ATI?

Well, We don't have any problems with pakistani people it's the pakistani establishment We have problems with.
And I wasn't even gonna comment that but I read someone's post saying 'Kasab is my hero and 26/11 should happen everyday in India'? :frown: Now you tell me how can one bear such language against his/her country? :disagree:

I was still civil compared to him. Anyways it was just an impulse. :)
 
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when this sob zerdari government runs a case on this american terrorist???
 
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Bossy atitude.... for eg release davis or else...not cooperating etc
Interfering in our internal affairs.
Sanctioning us.
Blaming us all the times.
Do more.
Betraying us in time of need.
Discrimination on international platforms.
Supporting dictators.
Threatning us with sanctions n crap.
Stupid statements by washington.
From the most sanctioned ally to the most bullied ally..... weve seen it all........Now ppl r fed up.


Add more:

Drones attack on thousand innocent Civilians
Killing Pakistan soldiers in "oopps" accidents
Unfriendly to Pakistan citizens in USA, jobless, muslims labels, etc
Major TV news regularly labels Pakistan's safe haven or terrorism
blames ISI, only just protecting Pakistan
Supplier to Afghan Talibans to attack Pakistan (i.e sucide bombing)
 
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US is making illegal demand and flexing muscle. Pakistan has all it needs to bring US in line of law. But question is if Pakistani administration and military willing to use their leverage? Otherwise simply cutting off supply route to Afghanistan and tell US to go ‘pound sand’ will do the trick.
 
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If both Egypt and Pakistan drops out of the WOT, Iraq and Afghanistan is forfeit.
 
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why do pakistan people hate us so much?

Hmm lets see where do we start. Maybe we hate America because it has always double crossed us. It's a known fact that America spares its enemies but does not spare it's friends.

We are paying the price for supporting America in WOT. In return we get bombings from terrorists, our soldiers dying and threats from America.
Why wouldn't Pakistanis hate America after what America has done to us. Ask the family of the victims of the massacre by Raymond Davis or the families of the innocent victims of drone attacks done by America.
 
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I think the time has come to that the exit process from this US WOT. It is not in Pakistan's medium and long term interest to be in thee WOT. The amount of US Aid is nothing as compared to the financial impact on Pakistan.
 
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Diplomatic Immunity or License to Kill

February 8, 2011
Dr. Haroon Iqbal

Amidst the heated debate going on, on Raymond Davis case, one thing is easy to contemplate and has become part of the “differential diagnosis” as to who might be involved in the target killings of innocent Pakistanis in Karachi, Lahore and elsewhere. This is also easy to understand that how and why the interests of the TTP and the foreign security agencies, working undercover in Pakistan, converge. Which further infers that, who might be the inventor of the false flag outfits in Pakistan?

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Hi tech weapons and gadgets found on the CIA sponsored American Terrorist Raymond Davis


Let us take a close look at the contents of Mr. Raymond’s belongings which include a GPS, a satellite phone & other hi-tech communication devices, military grade knives, cutters, 100 M16 bullets, sophisticated pistols, and above all, smart cameras, and more than 10 pictures of madrassas inside Lahore (picture shows all his belongings). Should such items be found on a respectable person like a diplomat? Or are they supposed to be found on a mercenary who was involved in espionage and/or a hunting mission?

On the other hand, the way Pakistani government and foreign office has shown an attitude of leniency in his case, highlights the convergence of the interests of the rented out Pakistani rulers and Black Water mercenaries; simply linked with the hawks sitting in Langley committed to land Pakistan in a state of complete doom.

Apart from the legal provisions and aspects, the fact that a person like Raymond having diplomatic immunity, or granting diplomatic immunity to professional killers is a dangerous trend, simply because anybody from either the American Embassy or any other Embassy for that matter, beyond diplomatic immunity, would earn a license to kill, leaving at his/her discretion to kill anybody. Apart from that, there are serious discrepancies in the statement of the Foreign Office which has categorically stated that the person named Raymond Davis did not have a diplomatic Visa (29th Jan 2011) and his records are not available with the Foreign Office. Normally, records of each and every diplomat can be easily traced with the Foreign Office. Interior Minister Rehman Malik actually failed to prove that Raymond Davis was carrying a diplomatic visa, when he stressed that he was holding a diplomatic passport. According to The news report, Mr. Raymond was issued ordinary business visit visa and he was working for the American Consulate in Lahore.

According to the Vienna convention 1963 (article 41:1) a counselor officer has got NO immunity once he commits a serious crime like the one committed by Raymond. According to another report of The News, America itself has tried diplomats in a court of law, who had committed serious crimes.

In Raymond’s case, question of self defense does not arise, due to the following reasons:

The assassinated have been shot from the back as per autopsy reports.
Not a single bullet was fired from their side.
Mr. Obaid ur Rehman was crushed and killed by the accomplices of Raymond, was that done in self defense too?
In a nutshell, such an endorsement to mercenaries will provide so called diplomats with a license to kill. One wonders where those foreign funded, western beleaguered NGOs have disappeared when two human beings (supposedly Pakistanis) were killed in cold blood, in broad daylight? They were quite vocal on the killing of Governor Salman Taseer! Is the blood of an ordinary Pakistani is so cheap that American mercenaries strolling in Pakistani streets can gun down anybody under the protection of diplomatic immunity and the lame excuse of self defense?


Veterans Today’s FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 4, 2011 issue states, it may be mentioned that Raymond Davis is an employee of a private security company ‘Hyperion Protective Consultants LLC’ based at 5100 North Lane, Orlando, Florida, 32808. This has been reported by NBC and confirmed by Huffington Post. A contractor employee has never been granted any diplomatic status but here the US is adamant to grant him one.”(By Hamid Waheed).

It is clearly stated here that US law does not permit Diplomatic status for a person who is working for a private security company. According to a senior Journalist of a renowned Pakistani TV Channel, Pakistani government has illegally issued legal visas to around 130 Americans and 86 Indians, via Dubai, to enter Pakistan without prior approval of the Pakistan’s premier Intelligence Agency the much dreaded ISI. If such a legal requirement can’t be fulfilled under normal circumstances, it can’t be something consistent with the normal diplomatic proceedings, and hence, tens of hundreds of CIA/RAW agents have been given visas through Pakistani government to unleash terror within Pakistan; Pointing towards which, an American diplomat stated “it looks awful when we see that a country like Pakistan has waged war against itself”.

The position of the Pakistani government is self-explanatory, when we see that the Interior Minister Rehman Malik has stressed that Raymond Davis was carrying a diplomatic passport, which is an appalling delude, whereby diplomatic status and visa issue has been confused with diplomatic passport. Punjab police also played a dirty role in this enigma, by registering the assassinated persons as dacoits, in their bid to weaken the case against the assailant. Punjab Government even excelled the Federal Government in pleasing Americans by forcefully detaching the Prosecutor General Mr. Rana Bakhtyiar from this case. His only fault was that he affronted the masters by condemning the barbaric act in the guise of diplomacy. Now according to FOX NEWS, quoting Pakistani embassy in New York, “Raymond will soon be released from the clutches of the Pakistani court of law”.

It is quite obvious that a weak case is being prepared against the assassin by crafting a vague investigation report coupled with a half hearted pursuance of the case on deliberations of the slavish rulers sitting in the Government. It goes without saying that how can flunkies, who came into power with American approval could possibly resist its pressure. The value of the precious Pakistani lives in the eyes of its rulers is quite understandable when hundreds of drone attacks have taken the lives of thousands of innocent Pakistani civilians. Moreover, an even pinching statement was made by President Asif Ali Zardari who commented to the Americans that “collateral damage could be a matter of concern for them but not for him”. Such is the listless and apathetic mentality which is governing this country.

The single most convincing evidence that Raymond Davis is a serving undercover CIA operative, is that his original name is nowhere to be found in the diplomatic records. Additionally, his passport harbors a different name than the one he goes by.

Part of Pakistan’s Electronic and Print media once again proved that it is sellable merchandise, when it played its role to weaken the case against Raymond. Soon after the incident a prominent Private channel highlighted that Raymond fired “in self defense” and that the assassinated were robbers with pistols in their hands (Here the dirty role of the police cannot be ruled out). Also, it emphasized that that those who killed were shot from front (against the reality) while the actual autopsy showed that they were shot from the back. Similarly, several analysts played their “assigned” role to prove that they were sold out, by arguing immunity for the assassin. This is how Pakistani media has been infiltrated by the hostile foreign agencies.

The case of Raymond Davis is only a tip of the iceberg, and it exposes the dreadful reality that how agencies like CIA have permeated deep within every strata of the Pakistani society and unless they are fully rooted out, Pakistan will never be freed from the ghastly claws of terror campaign deployed against its integrity which is being unfolded under the code name “War on Terror”.

This is not terrorist equipment this is standard equipment for the US Democracy Standards Diplomatic Norms.

You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all the people all the time.
 
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America and Pakistan's relationship makes me think of Lady Gaga's, once, chart topping "Bad Romance". It was never meant to be..
 
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Give him some permanent head surgery. Nothing's going to happen.

We shot the British drug dealer last year, besides crying what are they going to do? We also shot Japanese and Korean drug dealers, they don't even cry.

Singapore hung Australians and whipped Americans, what happened? Nothing.

Tell Obama this: If you come to Pakistan and kill 2 people, we will arrest, try, convict and execute you too.

That's exactly what will happen if Davis goes free. The next American who runs afoul of the law will be lynched by the mob before the police can save him.

American consular staff in Pakistan will need a massive security detail wherever they go, which will inevitably lead to an altercation sooner or later.

The best option of America is to stop acting like a bully and respect the rule of law.
 
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Lets see if Pakistan can really stand up against the US after all the big talk we have seen, its highly doubtful that Islamabad will let go of the aid they get just to prosecute this one guy. They will bow down and just like what happens everytime, 10-20 "Defense analyst" will scream and shout on TV channels and call this yet another conspiracy. Its all too common.
 
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