RAW involved in destabilising Pakistan, says General Raheel

[Grevion]

You national security advisor on camera acknowledged the use of these mercenaries aka TTP to spread terrorism inside Pakistan a FACT already known and we'll established. This has nothing to do with our policies. After 9/11 every tom dick and Harry who is against Pakistan including India camped inside Afghanistan to run their terrorist campaign from there. When our under belly which is Afghanistan was secure pre 9/11 there was no terrorism in Pakistan. The moment it got infested with entities like India riding uncle Sam shoulder, that was the time the wave of terrorism was unleash on the citizens of Pakistan.

And spare us comparing our reaction on capturing a serving RAW terrorist as oppose to Indian past claim of some Pakistani involvement in India. Your whole state machinery goes bonkers with some outlandish claims, the recent example of so called terrorist boat. The amount of Pakistanis killed in Indian state sponsored terrorism is astronomical.

Pre 9/11 taliban was your friend against the soviets, Pakistan and the US supported and nourished afghan taliban and the mujhahideens. Things changed when you have to fought them along with the US in there war against terrorism but by then they were already well established in FATA and North Wajiristan. India didn't created TTP your own country did.
India too had in the past captured Pakistani ISI agents but we didnt go crying to the UN or US because we know its the part and parcel of the game and our only problem is when we have unwanted jannat fantasizers from across the border who are ready to blow themself up for no good reason whatsoever .

 

[somebozo]

Have you read the real history of creation of Bangladesh? Your politician and Army General did not honour the result of election and stole away all the money from jute exports. On Kashmir please listen to your analyst such as Mr. Hasan Nissar. When you find quality time please read the actual text of UN resolution on Kashmir instead of reading the flawed history books.

You should also count the violation of human rights in the *** and Balochistan.

We should count genocide of native canadians first..

Pre 9/11 taliban was your friend against the soviets, Pakistan and the US supported and nourished afghan taliban and the mujhahideens. Things changed when you have to fought them along with the US in there war against terrorism but by then they were already well established in FATA and North Wajiristan. India didn't created TTP your own country did.
India too had in the past captured Pakistani ISI agents but we didnt go crying to the UN or US because we know its the part and parcel of the game and our only problem is when we have unwanted jannat fantasizers who are ready to blow themself up for no good reason whatsoever from across the border.

Talibans were also the moral equivalent of American founding fathers...

 

[Grevion]

Talibans were also the moral equivalent of American founding fathers...

For the Americans at that time what Taliban were doing was equivalent to what the continental congress of those thirteen colonies did when they adopted the deceleration of independence against the Brits. Apparently after the soviets left they were a mere 'Islamic militants waging insurgency'.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Pre 9/11 taliban was your friend against the soviets, Pakistan and the US supported and nourished afghan taliban and the mujhahideens. Things changed when you have to fought them along with the US in there war against terrorism but by then they were already well established in FATA and North Wajiristan. India didn't created TTP your own country did.
India too had in the past captured Pakistani ISI agents but we didnt go crying to the UN or US because we know its the part and parcel of the game and our only problem is when we have unwanted jannat fantasizers from across the border who are ready to blow themself up for no good reason whatsoever .

Don't make fool of yourself son. Those who fought against the soviets were mujahedeens. Taliban were not even born or were childern at that time. Talibans were created by Benazir and her interior monitor naseer ullah baber. Taliban the original one who are now fighting inside Afghanistan got nothing to do with TTP which is completely forigen sponsored phenomenon , support by RAW NDS and other entities to cause mayhem inside Pakistan.

There is no difference between jannat fantasizers or state actors like yadev, the Indian agent, who sole aim is kill innocent civilians in order to create panic and despondency.

No, he did not. It takes a considerable leap of imagination to pass off what he said to what you are saying.

And it takes an even more gullible and conspiracy addicted population like Pakistanis to buy this fantasy of 'NSA acknowledging' on a mass scale.

You Indias are either deaf dumb and blind all at same time, or your heads truly berried in sand not realising the facts and realities. Get off your high horses and understand what been going on. Your state is the true sponsor of terrorism in its all manifestations and definitions.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

The Taliban emerged in the early 1990s in northern Pakistan following the withdrawal of Soviet troops from Afghanistan.
A predominantly Pashtun movement, the Taliban came to prominence in Afghanistan in the autumn of 1994.

It is commonly believed that they first appeared in religious seminaries - mostly paid for by money from Saudi Arabia - which preached a hard line form of Sunni Islam.

The Taliban's promise - in Pashtun areas straddling Pakistan and Afghanistan - was to restore peace and security and enforce their own austere version of Sharia, or Islamic law, once in power.
Pakistan has repeatedly denied that it is the architect of the Taliban enterprise.

But there is little doubt that many Afghans who initially joined the movement were educated in madrassas (religious schools) in Pakistan.
Who are the Taliban?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-south-asia-11451718

Bravo. You very much contradicted yourself. From Taliban fighting the soviets to Taliban emerging after Soviet withdrawal. How old are you son?

 

[Taimoor Khan]

This must be my unlucky day.

Do Pakistanis find comprehension extremely hard?

Whether or not India is fomenting terrorism is a separate question. YOU alleged that "the Indian NSA acknowledged" that India was fomenting terrorism in Pakistan.

That was an outright lie. It has been called out. I have seen that video that Pakistanis post from Youtube but some how never bother to watch.

Such leaps of fantasy and lies might work on other Pakistanis(and Pakistanis only) who jump on it as they are desperate to have their fears confirmed of an evil India fomenting terrorism in Pakistan instead of their Islamic brothers who their military nurtured for decades.

So regardless of what you believe, the point in question was your allegation regarding the Indian NSA.

Watch from 5:30

This shit hole openly admitting that these People are mercenaries and India is paying them for them to be on India side. He openly threatened Baluchistan which is a integral and undisputed part of Pakistan, this has been corroborated with the capture of Indian monkeys recently.

You Indians are pathological liars and you think that shouting from rooftops you can make your lies turn into truth, naaa, it doesn't work like that.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

1. Unless you hear something else, at absolutely no point in the speech does the NSA say that India is doing anything of the kind you are ascribing.

2. As I said, it takes a leap of imagination to get from what is akin to an academic discourse in the video to alleging terrorism in Pakistan.

But as is the norm, Pakistanis will never bother into actually comprehending what is being said. Preferring instead to substitute facts with claims and fantasies.

You can understand English right? It's not like this idiot is speaking with thick posh British accent that you might struggle to comprehend?

 

[Grevion]

Bravo. You very much contradicted yourself. From Taliban fighting the soviets to Taliban emerging after Soviet withdrawal. How old are you son?

Are you really that naive?
Taliban was formed out of the mujaheddin's civil war in 1994. The mujaheddin fought the soviets in the soviet occupation.
Talibani govt was supported by the Pakistani establishment untill they started their own Islamic movement in Pakistan.

 

[tested]

You can understand English right? It's not like this idiot is speaking with thick posh British accent that you might struggle to comprehend?

Much, much better than you if you feel that according to this video :

"You national security advisor on camera acknowledged the use of these mercenaries aka TTP to spread terrorism inside Pakistan a FACT already known and we'll established."
Source: https://defence.pk/threads/raw-invo...ys-general-raheel.426586/page-7#ixzz466sBf4gd

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Much, much better than you if you feel that according to this video :

"You national security advisor on camera acknowledged the use of these mercenaries aka TTP to spread terrorism inside Pakistan a FACT already known and we'll established."
Source: https://defence.pk/threads/raw-invo...ys-general-raheel.426586/page-7#ixzz466sBf4gd

You my son needs to go back to your school, learn and understand the English language. Your are letting your bravado and nationalism getting the better out of you here. Dont make fool of yourself.