so any terrorist raising india's national flag automatically becomes a good person?? that is a strange logic.
and rss privately does not hoist the indian national flag[1]...
First for your national flag illusion and how news could be twisted
According to govt. guidelines the national flag could be only flown in govt. office and building except independence and republic day till 2002
Undeterred by directions to remove the national flag from his factory premises, Jindal fought a seven-year legal battle and finally emerged victorious in 2002.
Here is the RSS explaination
Rss national executive member k. suryanarayana rao told reporters at the samarasata sangam (social harmony meet) here on sunday that the
"rss did not biannually hoist the flag because till a few days ago, there were stringent rules restricting the hoisting of the flag only on government buildings. `now that the rules have been relaxed, we will also hoist the flag,'"
RSS hoists tricolor often at shakhas, since ages. May I suggest that you to throw the newspapers away and google intenet go join a nearby Sangh shakha? Go to nearby shakha will have local trustworthy and reputable people as organizers and all it takes is just an hour, infrequently even once a week on Sundays, if you will. No joining fee, no membership forms and no one asking you to conform!
Till you experience there directly your
becomes Ah Oh Ah Wallah !!
Myth RSS does not raise Indian flag
RSS Sarsangh chalak (highest position within RSS), Mohan Bhagawat himself stands and respects an Indian flag during important national festivals.
what does that say about nagpur police??
and the court set these three free for "lack of evidence"?? what is that??
So you want to discuss each and every criminal case by case Try Salman Hit and Run case.
the people who harmed those 162 killed and injured people in malegaon in 2006 were not secretly socialist revolutionaries... they were cent percent in agreement with the sangh ideology and used sangh resources and misused military resources... why are we even arguing about this??
What if I say it was planted by UPA govt. to defame RSS, and BJP for political advantage and reason, and the real target was Murli Manohar Joshi, Advani, and Praveen Tagodia, but the whole plans fails and the small players were suffered. There was never powerfull substantial evidence with the Police, and would have failed miserably, but the alleged arrested was kept in Jail with the law like MAKOKA and anti terrorist act.
Why it was fail due to the following Reason
1. First Police story of Col. Purohit getting RDX from the Army store, when he was posted in J&K -- Fail, because he was in intelligence Department only, and taking out any weapon from the Armory is not a piece of cake with this theory.
2. Col Purohit was surfing Pakistan and terrorist related websites --- Fail because he was the intelligence unit, thats what he is suppose to do. After all we too are in the Pakistani Defence forum discussing defence related stuff.
3. Sadvi bike was used to plant the bomb. --- Are they insane to use its own vehicle to plant the bomb, and with the evidence of vehicle theft was already there --- Fail
4. After years Police could not prove any link up with the RSS or the alleged persons related to Malegoan blast.
Myth Organizations like the Sri Rama Sene of the infamous pub incident, Abhinav Bharat and other organizations are part of RSS
Fact : No. RSS clearly has defined who is a part of Sangh Parivar and who is not. You can't club everyone who claims to be a Hindu organization, and malign RSS because of those organizations' actions. In fact some of those ignorantly clubbed as "Sangh Parivar" with RSS, were trying to kill RSS leaders! Every attempt to malign RSS, like how Congress leaders did in case of Ajmer blast, has backfired.
the judicial procedure you speak of can be used by sanghis to hound and arrest progressives/activists like teesta setalvad, arrest truth speakers like sanjiv bhatt, and regularly release criminals like maya konani[2].
the truest judge is our common sense, empathy for human misery and justice and comradeship with humanity.
For Teesta Setalvad you might have soft heart here are the allegations and some facts for you
1. Teesta Setalvad 's former colleague Rais Khan has made startling revelations by filing an affidavit before the Nanavati commission... extracts from his first ever TV interview. View Interview:
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2. Yasmeen Banu Sheikh, Best Bakery Case prime prosecution witness has accused Teesta Setalvad for forcing her to lie in the Trial court at Mumbai. View:
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3. Headlines Today journalist Rahul Singh has alleged in a affidavit submitted to the Dy. Superintendent of Police, Lunawada that Teesta Setalvad did not tell him that the Pandarwada graves were legal. She did not inform him that she had not taken proper permission from the authorities to dig up the graves and that she knew that the bodies were buried by the police with proper procedure. View Affidavit:
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4. Raiskhan Aziz Khan Pathan an ex-employee of Teesta Setalvad 's Citizen for Justice & Peace (CJP) has filed an affidavit on 26th September, 2011 with the Chief Justice of Mumbai High Court for the re-trial of the Best Bakery case. He has in his affidavit to the Chief Justice narrated the whole sequence of incidents - of how witnesses were brought to Mumbai, kept in Bhindi Bazaar, and tutored by Teesta Setalvad for giving false testimonies in the court. He has also requested the court to direct foreignsic science labs to do lie detector / polygraph test of himself & Teesta Setalvad to bring the truth before the court. View Affidavit:
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5. Raiskhan Aziz Khan Pathan has written to the Chief Justice of the Mumbai High Court seeking his help in view of the threats he has received from Muslim fundamentalists on behalf of Teesta Setalvad. View Request:
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6. Teesta Setalvad hacks ex-employee Rais Khan's Email ID - Police Complaint. View Police Complaint:
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7. Yasmeen Banu Sheikh, a prime prosecution witness in the Best Bakery Case in her affidavit dated 17/06/2010 to the Chief Justice Mumbai H.C. has accused Teesta Setalvad for forcing her to lie in the Trial court at Mumbai. View Affidavit (Gujarati):
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8. Teesta Setalvad 's NGO paid Gujarat Riot witnesses. Ex-employee of Teesta Setalvad 's Citizen for Justice & Peace (CJP), Rais Khan's Bank Statements. View Bank Statements:
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9. Teesta Setalvad committed perjury by signing Zaheera Shaikh's affidavit which was filed in the Supreme Court in CRL.M.P. No. 1250-1253/2004. View Affidavit:
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10. Defamation complaint filed by Rais Khan, former aide of social activist Teesta Setalvad, before a Magisterial court in Ahmedabad, Gujarat. View Complaint:
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11. Rais Khan Pathan, former associate of Teesta Setalvad, writes an open letter to Justice P.B. Sawant listing all the criminal cases & charges against Teesta Setalvad. View Letter:
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12. Gulbarg Society members have sent a notice to Teesta Setalvad and have threatened legal action against her in a cash dispute issue. View Letter:
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13. Gulbarg Society members have filed a Criminal complaint against Teesta Setalvad to the Joint Commissioner of Police, Crime Branch, Ahmedabad. View Letter:
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14. Teesta Setalvad may face contempt proceedings for approaching the Office of High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR), Geneva despite giving assurances to the Supreme Court. Rais Khan Pathan has written a letter to SIT chief R.K. Raghavan. View Letter:
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15. Teesta Setalvad flouts Companies Act, 1956 & Foreign Contribution Regulation Act, 2010, complaint filed by leading Advocate
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16. Compromise with Teesta Setalvad or face Muslim Terrorists, R.B. Sreekumar to Rais Khan. View Letter:
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17. Teesta Setalvad's ex-aide Rais Khan exposes Zakia Jafri's lies in a letter to Special Investigation Team (SIT). View Letter:
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18. Ministry of Corporate Affairs, Government of India is taking legal action against Teesta Setalvad's company Sabrang Communications & Publishing Pvt. Ltd. View Letter:
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19. Teesta Setalvad colluded with Zakia Jafri against Modi after Haren Pandya's family refused to do so. View:
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20. Teesta Setalvad instructed me to ignore Congress leaders involved in Gujarat Riots, shares ex-aide Rais Khan. View:
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21. FIR filed against Teesta Setalvad and others. View FIR (Gujarati):
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22. Teesta Setalvad bought Jewellery & Wine from funds meant for Riot victims: Crime Branch
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23. Teesta Setalvad admits using Riot Victims' funds for Jewellery, Wine and other personal expenses: Crime Branch. View Affidavit:
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Evidence Against Teesta Setalvad
please don't start about that "way of life" thing... i can make many counter-points about that.
i will prefer quoting rabindranath tagore on nationalism
[3]...
It is because you might believe that Hindu is a Religion, but not a Dharma
Refer my thread and post whatever counter-points you have
Dharma is not the same as Religion
similar to him, i dislike nationalists, the indian nationalists especially... it is these indian nationalists who are responsible for all misery, including india being declared by uno-who in 2014 as "suicide capital of the world"... indian nationalists, religio-nationalists really, are blinded by the supposed greatness of india and ignore the actual misery all around.
there is a difference between nationalism and true love for a country's people... anyone having the latter spirit will support and be part of those who can be clearly identified as progressives, and that is definitely not the sangh.
it is not nationalism but internationalism that should drive a country's political ideology... if one chooses to ignore the better systems in other parts of the world, how can one improve one's society?? either a society must develop a progressive system and offer it to the world ( like cuba and libya did ) or one must adopt a progressive system... the indian state system is neither.
First Check what is Nationalism accordiing to Ravindra Nath Tagore, and what is according to Hindu Ideology.
Where do you find any contradiction.
Myth : RSS is anti national
Fact : RSS is the most nationalistic organization in India. In fact, even the most bitter enemy of RSS, Jawaharlal Nehru, invited RSS to come participate in the 1963 Republic day parade. 3500 Swayamsevaks marched on that day, in their typical Gana Vesha. During his final years, Nehru realized the patriotic pulse of RSS, that too only when his Congress party's foreign policy went seriously wrong resulting in a humiliating defeat at the hands of China. It was RSS that helped Indian soldiers and civilians greatly in 1962, for which even Nehru was forced to invite them to be a part of 1963 Republic Day parade. I am sure the icon of secularism, Nehru would not invite an anti national organization to march with Indian army during republic day. In fact, the so-called secular folks like members of Indian communist parties, were busy raising donations for India's enemy China during 1962 war! During the 1965 Indo-Pak war PM Shastri requested nationalist RSS to help control traffic in Delhi so policemen could be freed for defence duties. When Pakistanis were trying to take over Jammu and Kashmir, it was swayamsevaks who cleared the snow, so that Indian air force could land their aircrafts.
RSS is a secular ???
Secular means the equality and no discrimination between Religion, Caste and Culture
1. All religion are equal in RSS ideology, and any religion could join RSS, it was never related to Religion, but call for the Dharma --- Don't bring VHP or Bajrang Dal in between,
Myth: RSS is anti Muslim and RSS is anti Christian
Fact : RSS treats Muslims, Christians and everyone else in India, irrespective of caste and creed as cultural Hindus. Hindutva is an all encompassing ideology of RSS. This is the reason why RSS never has RSS Muslim shakha (daily assembly) or RSS Christian shakha. Anyone can become a member of RSS as long as they are ready to respect Bharat Mata (Mother India). RSS is against only those whose work against India's soverignty and heritage. In the famous Ranganathacharya Agnihotri case, "Primafacie the RSS is a non-political cultural organization without any hatred or ill will towards non-Hindus", declared Karnataka High Court (then Mysore HC).
2. Caste --- Equality Yes, Even MK ganghi, and Ambedkar have experience in the RSS camp.
Myth : RSS is for Brahmins, Kshatriyas and other upper caste Hindus only
Fact : Totally wrong. RSS has no caste system at all. It treats every single member, be it male or female, as equal. In fact, even Mahatma Gandhi had applauded RSS' casteless setup 7 decades ago. All RSS requires from a volunteer, is respecting Bharat Mata (Mother India) as "vatsale, Maatru bhoome".
3. Culture --- RSS ideology ask the unity between the Hindu Culture Aka the Culture in the Area in Sindhu Pradesh called Bharata according to the Vedic Definations, which bring all the culture in Indian Subcontinent, but never impose supermacy of the Hindu culture over others in their memorandum or idelogy like Fassism
Myth 4: RSS is fundamentalist
Fact 4: RSS is pro India, pro Hindutva. RSS' ideology says that there are only two kinds of Hindus in India. Those who are Hindu today and those who were Hindus yesterday. That makes every single human in India (and rest of Indian subcontinent), Hindus by culture, ancestry and tradition. That is the Hindut-va (Hindu essence). Tva in Sanskrit means characteristic, essence or hood - like Bhratrutva (brotherhood), Maatrutva (motherhood), Shatrutva (Enmity) and so on. RSS never preaches any religious doctrine using any sacred book with the eventual goal of converting everyone to that doctrine 100%. RSS does not believe in converting anyone to its "religion". So calling such organization fundamentalist is silly. If at all RSS has any fundamentals, it is that of calling India as Bharat, and treating her as the mother of every single human in Indian subcontinent. In fact, RSS supports uniform civil code in India, meaning one type of marriage/divorce/inheritance laws for ALL citizen, which is opposed by so called progressive parties like Communists and Congress!
for 1. and 3 link I have already explained
For 2 link check this out for all the evidence and explaination
dharma next: Guilty, until proven innocent - A note on Mayaben Kodnani's conviction in Gujarat Riots (Part 1)
Qurestion for you :
1. How RSS is a Terrorist organisation and which Govt have declared this organisation as terrorist organisation.
2. Do you know that RSS have a Muslim wing also.
3. Do you know the difference between the Sect called Religion or a Dharma which is set by some person or run by book.
4. What is the difference and common between ISIS and RSS
5. When a person of RSS involved bring liability to the whole organisation or group, so why not osama bin laden religious ideology to the whole Muslim idelogist.
6. Do you think Modi is a terrorist.
7. What does Communist have contributed in the countries betterment and why not disbanned whole communist party due to maoists with the same ideologist of yours.
8. Which is best Hindutva or Sharia