Raqqa's Dirty Secret - BBC

[VCheng]

I dont know for certain who's helping whom but i certainly believe that americans would never be okay with "the syrians made the decision" thing. they bombed all over syria for God knows how many years and now they were shy to do so. they are definitely involved at some level and may be russians and others are too.

Allegations without any facts to back them up remain unproven.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

I dont know for certain who's helping whom but i certainly believe that americans would never be okay with "the syrians made the decision" thing. they bombed all over syria for God knows how many years and now they were shy to do so. they are definitely involved at some level and may be russians and others are too.

ISIS has had years to prepare the defense in Raqqa.
City Warfare is very costly, so dislocating them, will mean that they
will have to defend in less prepared places the next time.
They will eventually run out of places to hide.
From a political point of view, running ISIS out of their "capital" is a major thing.

The Americans are trying to make the locals grow up.
That is as important as defeating ISIS.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Please provide any evidence of what you claim, other than your own views. Thanks!

ask this question to you, what sort of Question is acceptable to you ?

 

[shining eyes]

US has been solely responsible for turning the middle east into a shit-storm. These Arab guys were already hung in time and making no progress and devil sought the opportunity to throw them 50 years back in time.

I hope hard times create strong men - Its about time now

 

[VCheng]

ask this question to you, what sort of Question is acceptable to you ?

So no evidence? Typical.

 

[shining eyes]

ISIS has had years to prepare the defense in Raqqa.
City Warfare is very costly, so dislocating them, will mean that they
will have to defend in less prepared places the next time.
They will eventually run out of places to hide.
From a political point of view, running ISIS out of their "capital" is a major thing.

The Americans are trying to make the locals grow up.
That is as important as defeating ISIS.

haha coming from a senior member - no offence with you but thats laughable logic.

You kill or make the enemy surrender when they are weak and you help a friend a friend when they are weak and give them a way to get better prepared next time.

letting them go with weapons is allowing the cancer to spread. Transport them into another country and then bomb the hell out of it - Transport them to the next - Thats their policy.

 

[SubWater]

Why didn't the Russians or the Syrians? Do they follow our orders?

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Syrian tried to Bomb ISIS over Raqqa several times, but US shot down Syrian warplane in excuse to protect US back fighters

 

[YeBeWarned]

So no evidence? Typical.

The report itself is a prove with eye witness accounts , as I say what sort of proof your Are willing to accept ..

 

[VCheng]

The report itself is a prove with eye witness accounts , as I say what sort of proof your Are willing to accept ..

Yes, and the same report identifies who put together the deal. Can you accept that?

 

[YeBeWarned]

Yes, and the same report identifies who put together the deal. Can you accept that?

Of course i will , if you accept that US is indeed part of the deal and not just that but provide Air cover/Transport to those ISIS fighters to live to fight another day .

 

[VCheng]

Of course i will , if you accept that US is indeed part of the deal and not just that but provide Air cover/Transport to those ISIS fighters to live to fight another day .

Sir, local Syrian leaders made, and implemented the deal.

And the claims of any "air cover" do not identify whose aircraft they were.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Sir, local Syrian leaders made, and implemented the deal.

are you deliberately ignoring that the Coaliation Fighters provide Air Cover to the ISIS convoy as reported ? and you are saying that a massive Convoy gets from Raaqqa goes un-Detected by the Number Air force in the world ? i cant digest that brah

 

[VCheng]

are you deliberately ignoring that the Coaliation Fighters provide Air Cover to the ISIS convoy as reported ? and you are saying that a massive Convoy gets from Raaqqa goes un-Detected by the Number Air force in the world ? i cant digest that brah

People claim they heard jets. What does that mean in terms of whose jets they were? If a convoy is monitored, all it means is observation. Attacking 3,500 civilians hiding 250 fighters is not a viable position, is it?

 

[YeBeWarned]

People claim they heard jets. What does that mean in terms of whose jets they were? If a convoy is monitored, all it means is observation. Attacking 3,500 civilians hiding 250 fighters is not a viable position, is it?

since when American start caring for Collateral Damage ? and wasn't your President said, we need to Kill Terrorist and their families ? bro you can't just say every thing goes un detected by the USA as America is some Third world country with Obsolete Military hardware, ISIS escape from Raqqa US is unaware , ISIS re-established in Afghanistan in Tora Bora Americans un aware , Osama bon laden Escape from Tora Bora US is un aware , Iraq does not have WMD's US was un aware ?
we are talking about the most modern Armed forces , Air force , Navy and Intelligence with thousands of Satellites at their disposal , not some African militia Army ..

 

[VCheng]

since when American start caring for Collateral Damage ? and wasn't your President said, we need to Kill Terrorist and their families ? bro you can't just say every thing goes un detected by the USA as America is some Third world country with Obsolete Military hardware, ISIS escape from Raqqa US is unaware , ISIS re-established in Afghanistan in Tora Bora Americans un aware , Osama bon laden Escape from Tora Bora US is un aware , Iraq does not have WMD's US was un aware ?
we are talking about the most modern Armed forces , Air force , Navy and Intelligence with thousands of Satellites at their disposal , not some African militia Army ..

Now you are conflating your own views with the facts as reported in the story, which is bound to be misleading.