Radicalization of Pakistani society from Khuda Hafiz to Allah Hafiz, Unity Faith Discipline manipulation

[HAIDER]

This whole discussion focus on Khawaja Asif constituency where Sri Lankan got killed by the mob. Watch from 30th minute. New rules for religion imported from Nebraska, USA in 1980 .

 

[Clutch]

This whole discussion focus on Khawaja Asif constituency where Sri Lankan got killed by the mob. Watch from 30th minute. New rules for religion imported from Nebraska, USA in 1980 .

Bs. ... In India it's a daily occurrence at epidemic levels... In Pakistan it happens one a decade if that and all the Neoliberals scream... "It's 'islamic' radicalization!!"... BS.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Bs. ... In India it's a daily occurrence at epidemic levels... In Pakistan it happens one a decade if that and all the Neoliberals scream... "It's 'islamic' radicalization!!"... BS.

LEAVE INDIA OUT OF HERE, PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!, you are obsessed with India
70K fellow Muslims didn't die in India in the name of pure Islam- they died in Pakistan
If you want to talk about this issue- compare yourself to Iran, Bangladesh - where they are all Muslims but are not a lunatic society

This is Scary given our history, acknowledge it and work on it
This whataboutery is bs, counterproductive

 

[Aesterix]

Khuda is a persian word.
Allah is اسم ذات۔
We are better off using the later.

 

[Imran Khan]

from haleem to DALEEM haleem khana nhi ho sakta ye khuda ka name hai

when you eating haleem and someone say oyee kaffir you eating khuda ka name

 

[hussain0216]

LEAVE INDIA OUT OF HERE, PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!, you are obsessed with India
70K fellow Muslims didn't die in India in the name of pure Islam- they died in Pakistan
If you want to talk about this issue- compare yourself to Iran, Bangladesh - where they are all Muslims but are not a lunatic society

This is Scary given our history, acknowledge it and work on it
This whataboutery is bs, counterproductive

Didn't they give it hard to the hindus in Bangladesh about a month ago?

 

[Mugen]

Bs. ... In India it's a daily occurrence at epidemic levels... In Pakistan it happens one a decade if that and all the Neoliberals scream... "It's 'islamic' radicalization!!"... BS.

It is, but most Pakistanis fail to see it and even support it. Pakistanis are just like the Hindu extremist, except they are Muslims.

 

[SQ8]

It is, but most Pakistanis fail to see it and even support it. Pakistanis are just like the Hindu extremist, except they are Muslims.

Pakistanis are mostly ok with committing all sorts of horrors because they can justify it either by "Islamic" or "It happens in India, US or Israel".
In other words, their religious belief is soo fracked up that they think Allah Subhanwataalah has grace marks for them set aside just because just like Bani Israel these Bani Bakistan think they are chosen people.

It is probably the worst cultural narrative to give to a nation that somehow they are special and chosen which makes them think they can get away with anything. So were Aad and Samood and we all know what happened to them.

The issue isnt Khuda Hafiz or Allah Hafiz but the imposition of the latter on those that are actively not interested. Allah Hafiz is a beautiful choice but I am not going to feel offended if someone doesnt use it. Not my problem - but today's average Pakistani is likely to at the least cuss you out for not using it.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Arabs used Allah before the Quran. In those days, Abdullah was also a name among Arab Jews. So, Allah is Arabic word for God [the Creator]. Khuda is Urdu word for the same. Doesn't matter if it is also used in Farsi where it is pronounced Khoda.

Their difference is subtle, similar to how it is God in English and Gott in German. God and Khuda probably have the same root origin, the former was pronounced Guda(n) in early/proto Germanic.

A Saudi preacher on YouTube was asked about Khuda and he declared it UnIslamic because he thinks it is Persian! Apparently, he has no serious issue using God in English interchangeably with Allah.

Salafi doctrine is obviously based on cultural bias. Salafism ignores the verse in the Quran that clearly says Allah created humanity in different languages and skin colors.

 

[SaadH]

LEAVE INDIA OUT OF HERE, PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!, you are obsessed with India
70K fellow Muslims didn't die in India in the name of pure Islam- they died in Pakistan
If you want to talk about this issue- compare yourself to Iran, Bangladesh - where they are all Muslims but are not a lunatic society

This is Scary given our history, acknowledge it and work on it
This whataboutery is bs, counterproductive

Nah they died in the name of Pax Americana, nothing to do with Islam...

Arabs used Allah before the Quran. In those days, Abdullah was also a name among Arab Jews. So, Allah is Arabic word for God [the Creator]. Khuda is Urdu word for the same. Doesn't matter if it is also used in Farsi where it is pronounced Khoda.

Their difference is subtle, similar to how it is God in English and Gott in German. God and Khuda probably have the same root origin, the former was pronounced Guda(n) in early/proto Germanic.

A Saudi preacher on YouTube was asked about Khuda and he declared it UnIslamic because he thinks it is Persian! Apparently, he has no serious issue using God in English interchangeably with Allah.

Salafi doctrine is obviously based on cultural bias. Salafism ignores the verse in the Quran that clearly says Allah created humanity in different languages and skin colors.

There are many Khudas but only one Allah. Pre-Islamic Arabs also worshipped the same Allah, but they went astry and ascribed partners with him.

Khuda even though used in urdu is purely an farsi word, not indigneous to South Asia, if you are averse to using Allah, then as a South Asian you should then start using bhagwan cause that's closer to home, whereas Allah and khuda are both alien.

 

[PakAlp]

Arabs used Allah before the Quran. In those days, Abdullah was also a name among Arab Jews. So, Allah is Arabic word for God [the Creator]. Khuda is Urdu word for the same. Doesn't matter if it is also used in Farsi where it is pronounced Khoda.

Their difference is subtle, similar to how it is God in English and Gott in German. God and Khuda probably have the same root origin, the former was pronounced Guda(n) in early/proto Germanic.

A Saudi preacher on YouTube was asked about Khuda and he declared it UnIslamic because he thinks it is Persian! Apparently, he has no serious issue using God in English interchangeably with Allah.

Salafi doctrine is obviously based on cultural bias. Salafism ignores the verse in the Quran that clearly says Allah created humanity in different languages and skin colors.

Yes they on purpose promote anything that is pro arab whilst degrading and pointing fingers at others, I've met many people who have no idea about their own countries language or culture but know everything about Saudi Arabia. For them it is the role model state which should lead the ummah. This is all the outcome of Saudi investment to promote their version of Islam. I personally use Allah Hafiz aswell as Khuda Hafiz but people face turn red when I say Khuda Hafiz, they think I committed shirk.

When answering to how are you, at times I say Alhamdulillah or I say Allah na Shukr which means thanks to Allah but for some people that is alien because its in urdu.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Nah they died in the name of Pax Americana, nothing to do with Islam...

There are many Khudas but only one Allah. Pre-Islamic Arabs also worshipped the same Allah, but they went astry and ascribed partners with him.

Khuda even though used in urdu is purely an farsi word, not indigneous to South Asia, if you are averse to using Allah, then as a South Asian you should then start using bhagwan cause that's closer to home, whereas Allah and khuda are both alien.

In Urdu there is only one Khuda, the Creator of the heavens and the earth. Nobody calls a human or object Khuda, if they do it's a wrong usage. Ishvar is equivalent to Allah and Khuda, not Bhagwan because there are many Bhagwans. My ancestry never used Bhagwan as we don't worship idols. We can use Ishvar, Allah and Khuda interchangeably just as God. But Khuda Hafiz is culturally and historically Urdu phrase [maybe Farsi too].

 

[Clutch]

It is, but most Pakistanis fail to see it and even support it. Pakistanis are just like the Hindu extremist, except they are Muslims.

BS... Just look at the reaction... Across the board condemnation. Who is on a large scale supporting it... Please provide credible verifiable sources???...

LEAVE INDIA OUT OF HERE, PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!, you are obsessed with India
70K fellow Muslims didn't die in India in the name of pure Islam- they died in Pakistan
If you want to talk about this issue- compare yourself to Iran, Bangladesh - where they are all Muslims but are not a lunatic society

This is Scary given our history, acknowledge it and work on it
This whataboutery is bs, counterproductive

BS... India is part and parcel of this. Just because a black man get lynched in today's USA doesn't mean it's a pandemic of proportions requiring mass re-evaluation of American values. Because it's an odd incidence. Likewise, in Pakistan it's an odd incidence that has no government or judiciary or even religious support.

But in India such lynching are common and supported by the state!.... Huge difference...

Need to put everything into perspective... That's what this is.

LEAVE INDIA OUT OF HERE, PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!, you are obsessed with India
70K fellow Muslims didn't die in India in the name of pure Islam- they died in Pakistan
If you want to talk about this issue- compare yourself to Iran, Bangladesh - where they are all Muslims but are not a lunatic society

This is Scary given our history, acknowledge it and work on it
This whataboutery is bs, counterproductive

India is obsessed about us. Not the other way around.